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  6. # [00:28] <fantasai> TabAtkins: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox-1/#changes
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  22. # [02:57] <heycam> I think "--" as the prefix seems nicer than "_" (and I'd say then that it should be used for custom MQs too)
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  24. # [02:58] <heycam> althought it does make the custom properties look like command line arguments :)
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  32. # [04:18] * fantasai agrees with heycam -- _ is not very CSSy
  33. # [04:18] <fantasai> s/--/&mdash;/
  34. # [04:18] <fantasai> ;)
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  36. # [04:34] <liam> —
  37. # [04:34] <liam> but oh boy, having -- and — would make life pretty exciting for book authors!
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  42. # [05:10] <fantasai> Sadly there is no emdash on my keyboard, but I can typ å just fine
  43. # [05:11] <fantasai> however, it's getting corrupted somewhere between here and there and back
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  48. # [05:56] <liam> fantasai, I saw an a with a ring over it
  49. # [05:57] <liam> "I can typ å just fine"
  50. # [05:57] <liam> there's no — on my keyboard either, it's <compose> - - -
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  62. # [08:22] <fantasai> leaverou_away: corners: round bevel bevel round 50% 10% 10% 50% / 40% 15% 15% 40%
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  64. # [08:22] <fantasai> leaverou_away: corners: round bevel bevel round 50% 10% 10% 50% / 40% 15% 15% 40%
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  68. # [08:36] <liam> what's the significance of the division sign?
  69. # [08:54] <fantasai> liam: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-radius
  70. # [08:55] <liam> oic
  71. # [08:57] <liam> it's a shame you can't interleave the values then
  72. # [08:58] <leaverou> liam: true but that lets you do things like 50% / 100% 100% 0 0
  73. # [08:58] <liam> corners: rouhd 50% / 40% bevel 10% / 15% etc
  74. # [08:58] <leaverou> yeah we just discussed that
  75. # [08:58] <leaverou> but it's not how border-radius works today, so corners must follow that
  76. # [08:58] * liam will be sorry not to be in Toronto for jqueryto btw
  77. # [08:58] <liam> yeah
  78. # [08:59] <leaverou> aw
  79. # [08:59] <leaverou> didn't know you were planning to
  80. # [08:59] <liam> originally hoped to but our dog fell ill
  81. # [08:59] <liam> and the weather has been... not cooperative.. with travel
  82. # [09:00] <liam> (there were 3 or 4 foot high piles of snow deposited on the driveway yesterday!)
  83. # [09:00] <liam> Mark Reale, one of the organizers, wants to have closer links with W3C
  84. # [09:04] <leaverou> holy shit, and I don't have proper clothes with me
  85. # [09:06] <liam> oh, for cold weather?
  86. # [09:07] <liam> snow on saturday in toronto but it's warm there, due to be about 0C
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  91. # [09:36] <leaverou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/0314.html
  92. # [09:38] <liam> leaverou, btw what happened with wanting different radii on alternate pages?
  93. # [09:38] <leaverou> liam: nothing. Deferred to be treated along with regions
  94. # [09:38] <leaverou> as it's a similar fragmentation problem
  95. # [09:39] <liam> would the ability to mirror/swap a set (but limited) list of properties help with it?
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  97. # [09:39] <leaverou> no
  98. # [09:39] <liam> (limited so as not to affect line length, font, font size, line spacing)
  99. # [09:39] <liam> i.e. swap left and right (or top and bottom)
  100. # [09:40] <liam> ok
  101. # [09:40] <liam> it looked like it might from your sidebar example
  102. # [09:42] <leaverou> that was just one use case
  103. # [09:42] <liam> yeah, ok
  104. # [09:43] <liam> 's easier to implement in some systems if you can't change font/line-length etc at page boundaries, e.g. for balancing columns across pages
  105. # [09:46] * liam off to sleep. g'luck tomorrow/today Lea
  106. # [09:47] <leaverou> same for us, goodnight liam
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  185. # [17:34] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: I think the slash between <'grid-auto-columns'> and <'grid-auto-rows'> in the grid shorthand is not necessary to disambiguate. Is it just there because it looks nice
  186. # [17:34] <SimonSapin> ?
  187. # [17:35] <SimonSapin> (I guess to look like other properties that use a slash to separate something-columns and something-rows?)
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  217. # [23:28] <krit> fantasai: Just a reminder to look at the open issues http://dev.w3.org/fxtf/css-masking-1/issues-lc-2013.html for masking. Thanks!
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