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  1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 03 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:01] <TabAtkins> sylvaing: I'll do it for you if you want.
  4. # [00:01] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: that's very kind but this is my first chance to really take it through its paces so I'll go for it. I'll probably have questions though.
  5. # [00:02] <TabAtkins> kk
  6. # [00:02] <TabAtkins> But I can normalize your text formatting at the same time?
  7. # [00:02] <TabAtkins> That was supposed to be !.
  8. # [00:03] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: I mean, you already re-formatted the whole thing once.
  9. # [00:03] <TabAtkins> That was a public service to the *world*.
  10. # [00:03] <TabAtkins> That shit was an *abomination*.
  11. # [00:03] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: given standard interest rates, multiple scotches are already owed on this one
  12. # [00:03] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: it was horrendous
  13. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> It's almost as if some people don't break out in hives if the source code is formatted badly. Weird.
  14. # [00:04] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: only someone who also dealt with MSDN could have put up with it *cough*
  15. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> sylvaing: I'll take delivery of any decent bourbon.
  16. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> If you need suggestions, Blantons is nice.
  17. # [00:04] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: shit, I don't know Blantons.
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  19. # [00:05] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: latest awesome I've had was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_McKenna
  20. # [00:06] <sylvaing> TabAtkins: hell to find, however
  21. # [00:06] <TabAtkins> Ooh, sounds nice.
  22. # [00:07] <sylvaing> it's quite amazing
  23. # [00:07] <sylvaing> I've been more of a Japanese whiskey person lately but this stuff is quite magical
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  31. # [01:40] <TabAtkins> fantasai: You're in control of the current-work page, right? Can you add MQ4 to it?
  32. # [01:40] <TabAtkins> It's currently -, planned to be WD.
  33. # [01:40] <TabAtkins> (I have a resolution to publish it from Seattle, but haven't finished edits yet.)
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  35. # [01:42] <fantasai> OK
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  48. # [03:13] <dbaron> I should probably find time to read www-style
  49. # [03:13] <dbaron> but I haven't been managing to do so the past few weeks
  50. # [03:14] <dbaron> I perhaps would have seen sylvaing's posts before the telecon...
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  53. # [03:32] <heycam> keeping on top of mailing lists is overrated
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  59. # [04:12] <TabAtkins> I just choose a random thread every 20 minutes, mash on my keyboard for a bit, and hit "send".
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  154. # [10:54] <zcorpan> <http://www.w3.org/mid/CADhPm3t1C6A6fp3vBdS+7iN5iXxX=Yx8VBk4NGf5ux0sw8YZkg@mail.gmail.com> - so what was the conclusion for :not(unknown|foo) ? matches everything?
  155. # [10:55] <SimonSapin> zcorpan: yes
  156. # [10:55] <zcorpan> k
  157. # [10:56] <zcorpan> that's a change in behavior, but i guess it's fine. i don't expect pages the depend on it
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  205. # [19:28] <TabAtkins> Yeah, I think the actual namespace usage is basically nil.
  206. # [19:31] <SimonSapin> not the same as :not(|foo), though
  207. # [19:31] <SimonSapin> (which we sometimes call "null namespace")
  208. # [19:37] <TabAtkins> That's not just us - it's standard terminology.
  209. # [19:44] <SimonSapin> oh, I completely misread you previous sentence
  210. # [19:44] <SimonSapin> I though "nil" was how you called the behavior of unknown|foo
  211. # [19:44] <SimonSapin> nevermind
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  213. # [19:50] <TabAtkins> Ah, kk.
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  219. # [20:06] <SimonSapin> height: <percentage> " The percentage is calculated with respect to the height of the generated box's containing block. If the height of the containing block is not specified explicitly (i.e., it depends on content height), and this element is not absolutely positioned, the value computes to 'auto'. "
  220. # [20:06] <SimonSapin> So we need to determine the containing block at computed-value time?
  221. # [20:07] <SimonSapin> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css2/visudet.html#propdef-height
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  230. # [21:08] <TabAtkins> Hm, I thought we'd established that containing blocks weren't determinable at computed-value time, as they're too expensive.
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  232. # [21:16] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: so should this be used value rather than computed value?
  233. # [21:17] <TabAtkins> Actually, I think we may have errata on that?
  234. # [21:23] <SimonSapin> There is an errata http://www.w3.org/Style/css2-updates/REC-CSS2-20110607-errata.html#s.10.5a
  235. # [21:24] <SimonSapin> but it’s not reflected on the ED :( http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css2/visudet.html#propdef-height
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  237. # [21:24] <TabAtkins> uggggghhhhhhh
  238. # [21:25] <SimonSapin> And there I was, reading the ED, confident that I didn’t need to look at the errata anymore
  239. # [21:25] <TabAtkins> FIX IT
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  241. # [21:26] <TabAtkins> sylvaing_: How's the Animations bikeshedding going?
  242. # [21:26] * TabAtkins wants to hear about problems.
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  246. # [21:36] <sylvaing_> well, I have a really dumb question right this minute
  247. # [21:37] <sylvaing_> installed fine; marking things up seems totally easy but...where is the command line action described?
  248. # [21:37] <sylvaing_> never mind. you just run the darn thing without params :)
  249. # [21:38] <SimonSapin> also, -h
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  255. # [21:56] <sylvaing_> yup works sweetly so far....only question is how to map the diagram pic and its caption in http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-animations/#animations
  256. # [21:57] <TabAtkins> Use <figure> like normal.
  257. # [21:57] <TabAtkins> <figure> styles are already in our stylesheet.
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  261. # [22:00] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: re errata in CSS2’s ED, can’t right now, will do tomorrow unless you do in the meantime ;)
  262. # [22:03] <sylvaing_> mmm...do you have an example?
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  264. # [22:04] <TabAtkins> Yeah, check out the figure in section 2 of flexbox.
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  266. # [22:07] <sylvaing_> oh, never mind, dummy here was working in a directory below css-animations and thus not loading some rather important things...thx
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  277. # [23:54] <sylvaing_> TabAtkins: is there a trick to preserve angle brackets in my propdef value? The ident in between is not a property name and it looks like the whole thing turns into an element
  278. # [23:54] <TabAtkins> To link to a production, use the <<foo>> shortcut syntax.
  279. # [23:55] <TabAtkins> https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed/blob/master/docs/markup.md#autolink-shortcuts
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  282. # [23:59] <sylvaing_> how do I define a production though? in these case they're not properties
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