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  4. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> plinss: The DOMString thing is troublesome in other specs - I've had to ignore the linking error elsewhere.
  5. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> So it's nice to have WebIDL in Shepherd, especially once it actually contains the dfns. ^_^
  6. # [00:16] <plinss> Yeah, it seemed like the right thing to do
  7. # [00:17] <plinss> thoughts on having the uses of DOMString in IDL link to the WebIDL spec?
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  9. # [00:21] <TabAtkins> I'm fine with that.
  10. # [00:22] <TabAtkins> The more links the better, honestly.
  11. # [00:22] <TabAtkins> Link double/etc too.
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  13. # [00:23] <plinss> eeek, linking the primitive types would get a bit much, don’t you think?
  14. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> Shrug, they have non-obvious definitions.
  15. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> I suppose I can detect them and give them a class to receive even less obvious styling.
  16. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> Like, be invisible except on :hover.
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  25. # [01:27] <heycam> yeah not sure linking DOMString etc. is worth it
  26. # [01:28] <heycam> plinss, krit, but let me know what specific changes to make in the Web IDL spec you'd like
  27. # [01:28] <heycam> (preferably by email)
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  34. # [01:48] <plinss> TabAtkins: so if we’re going to add/handle all these new <dfn>s in the WebIDL spec, what type of <dfn> are they going to be? I’m thinking we need to define a new type for them…
  35. # [01:48] <TabAtkins> Do we?
  36. # [01:48] <TabAtkins> They're basically interfaces, no?
  37. # [01:49] <plinss> are they? maybe DOMString is an interface, but ‘boolean’?, ‘object’?
  38. # [01:49] <TabAtkins> They're close enough, I'd think. Distinguishing between "primitive" and "interface" doesn't seem particularly useful.
  39. # [01:51] <plinss> ok I suppose, just feels odd
  40. # [01:52] <plinss> I think we maybe do need a new type for promises though?
  41. # [01:52] <plinss> (and I need to update the widlparser to handle them)
  42. # [01:52] <TabAtkins> Why do we need something new for promises?
  43. # [01:53] <TabAtkins> It's a container type, sure, but so is "sequence".
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  46. # [01:57] <plinss> meh, ok
  47. # [01:57] <plinss> I still need to add support in the parser though
  48. # [01:59] <TabAtkins> I'm curious why you thought Promise needed something new, though.
  49. # [02:00] <plinss> just was looking at the idl types we already have
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  140. # [14:46] <glazou> sylvaing, sylvaing_ yt?
  141. # [14:46] <plh> that would be very early for him...
  142. # [14:46] <glazou> well
  143. # [14:46] <glazou> you never know with geeks
  144. # [14:46] <glazou> but maybe shans is here
  145. # [14:47] <glazou> or maybe you plh can explain the snakes thing in the table at http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/seoul-2014#participants
  146. # [14:47] <glazou> if this is a joke, I’m afraid our korean friends will not get it
  147. # [14:48] <plh> oh, I noticed as well. I guess it started as a joke based on the movie and folks followed
  148. # [14:48] <glazou> yeah that’s what I assumed
  149. # [14:49] <glazou> I need to clean that up before our KR friends call us all nuts :-)
  150. # [14:49] <plh> :)
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  164. # [16:04] <sylvaing_> dammit, did people follow up on that joke? I missed it.
  165. # [16:06] <sylvaing_> I don't know why you'd be worried about their perception. there is nothing I can do in a wiki page that can scare people more than witnessing a CSS f2f in person :)
  166. # [16:06] <glazou> eh
  167. # [16:06] <glazou> so…
  168. # [16:06] <glazou> I pinged my korean friends because of the food restrictions of some of us
  169. # [16:06] <glazou> and honestly, “no snakes on plane” was a bit hard to understand for them :-)
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  189. # [18:04] <krit> glenn: will we have something for breakfast or should I book it with the hotel?
  190. # [18:04] <krit> argh
  191. # [18:04] <krit> glazaou I meant
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  207. # [20:17] <krit> fantasai: I sent 3 mails about lc issues from CSS Masking to www-style. Please comment when you have time.
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  218. # [21:50] <krit> fantasai: I believe that CSS Masking is ready for another LC round. But would really like to know if there are more changes required to address your concerns.
  219. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> "Another LC"
  220. # [21:51] <TabAtkins> Yes, haha, the W3C's status names are hilariously inaccurate, round 1 million.
  221. # [21:53] <gsnedders> Can we add a new step, "Last Last Call"?
  222. # [21:53] <hober> well we'll soon have LCCR
  223. # [21:54] <hober> instead of separate LC and CR steps
  224. # [21:54] <TabAtkins> Lastest Call.
  225. # [21:55] <gsnedders> First Last Call.
  226. # [21:55] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, ... and if you make significant changes after that, the spec is dropped?
  227. # [21:55] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: No, then we\ll just need to have a second Last Last Call and introduce a Last Last Last Call step
  228. # [21:58] <krit> plinss: what was the link to the backup version of http://dev.w3.org/fxtf/ specs?
  229. # [21:59] <krit> plinss: Updates take awful long ATM
  230. # [21:59] <plinss> http://drafts.fxtf.org/
  231. # [21:59] <krit> plinss: reloading for the last couple of minutes but the change is not visible
  232. # [21:59] <plinss> yeah, it can take a while sometimes when there are stacked updates
  233. # [22:02] <plinss> the fxtf update is currently stacked behind the csswg update, which can take some time to update the github copy
  234. # [22:02] <plinss> I’m working on refactoring that out so it can all run in parallel
  235. # [22:02] <krit> plinss: ok, thanks!
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  237. # [22:07] <krit> plinss: my change doesn't show up on https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/ is that expected as well?
  238. # [22:08] <plinss> no, especially not if you pushed there...
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  240. # [22:08] <krit> plinss: right, I think that is the problem
  241. # [22:08] <krit> plinss: I didn't push (just realized it)
  242. # [22:08] <krit> plinss: :S
  243. # [22:08] <plinss> that would do it :-)
  244. # [22:10] <krit> plinss: just took me 23 minutes to realize according to mercurial :(
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  252. # [23:56] <fantasai> TabAtkins:
  253. # [23:56] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/bin/issuegen.pl
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