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  63. # [09:53] <zcorpan> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#attribute-case - is [foo="bar"i] valid or not?
  64. # [10:01] <SimonSapin> zcorpan: I think so. It matches the grammar http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#grammar
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  67. # [10:40] <zcorpan> thx SimonSapin
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  90. # [17:18] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: I’m not super convinced about http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors/#dom-mapping
  91. # [17:19] <SimonSapin> I don’t know if it belongs in the spec
  92. # [17:19] <SimonSapin> the JSONSelect example is dubious, since JSONSelect does not actually use Selector syntax
  93. # [17:22] <SimonSapin> Is anything other than JSONSelect actually using Selector for things that are not otherwise expressed as a DOM ?
  94. # [17:23] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: also, some pseudo-classes should not be "features" of elements. At least the logical combinations and tree-structural ones
  95. # [17:31] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: JSONSelect *does* use Selector syntax. Why do you say it doesn't?
  96. # [17:31] <SimonSapin> it uses something kind like Selector syntax
  97. # [17:31] <TabAtkins> And yes, I have an issue *in that section* about exactly the combination + tree-structural ones.
  98. # [17:31] <SimonSapin> it has things like T."complex key"
  99. # [17:32] <TabAtkins> Yeah, I'm not going to split hairs too much on that.
  100. # [17:33] <TabAtkins> They're Selectors that also allow <string-token> rather than <ident-token> for a class selector.
  101. # [17:34] <SimonSapin> the point is this section is meant for other things to be defined by referencing Selectors and having a mapping to DOM, but JSONSelect is not doing that, they’re re-defining everything
  102. # [17:34] <TabAtkins> They are currently, yes, *because I just now defined the data model such that mapping to DOM is the preferred method*.
  103. # [17:34] <SimonSapin> do you think they want to have such a mapping?
  104. # [17:35] <TabAtkins> It's nearly identical to what they're doing currently.
  105. # [17:36] <SimonSapin> the syntax seems to be based on JSON more than CSS
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  108. # [17:36] <TabAtkins> ...what?
  109. # [17:36] <TabAtkins> It's... literally Selectors.
  110. # [17:36] <TabAtkins> .author .drinkPref :first-child
  111. # [17:36] <TabAtkins> Is nothing like JSON.
  112. # [17:36] <SimonSapin> http://jsonselect.org/#grammaranamegrammara has things like json_string
  113. # [17:37] <TabAtkins> Yes, because they're operating against JSON anyway. That's an irrelevant detail.
  114. # [17:38] <TabAtkins> I mean, the thing was adapted from Selectors 3.
  115. # [17:38] <SimonSapin> (uh, they seem to be doing magic with fragment IDs and that’s a broken link)
  116. # [17:38] <TabAtkins> I'm not gonna blame them for doing an awkward hack.
  117. # [17:38] <TabAtkins> Yeah, I know.
  118. # [17:40] <TabAtkins> Anyway, if you have another example of a non-DOM language using Selectors, let me know. JSONSelect is just the one that I remembered off the top of my head.
  119. # [17:41] <SimonSapin> "Adapted from CSS3 and json.org" is what it says
  120. # [17:41] <SimonSapin> Anyway. Having this mapping in the Selectors probably doesn’t hurt, but I don’t know if anyone is actually gonna use it.
  121. # [17:41] <SimonSapin> in the Selectors spec*
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  134. # [18:47] <SimonSapin> fantasai: Is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Feb/0291.html somewhere on your issue tracking for Grid?
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  138. # [19:26] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Yes.
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  150. # [20:05] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: was "yes" in response to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Feb/0291.html being tracked?
  151. # [20:05] <TabAtkins> yes
  152. # [20:05] <SimonSapin> ok, cool
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