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  5. # [00:12] <sgalineau> Sydney is a beautiful place. Definitely worth taking the time. And it's ~40-hour of flying round trip so might as well make it worthwhile.
  6. # [00:12] <tantek> sgalineau: are you going? https://wiki.csswg.org/planning/sydney-2015?&#participants
  7. # [00:13] <sgalineau> tantek: no. our baby is due 1/22 or so...
  8. # [00:13] <TabAtkins> sgalineau: 40 hours? It's a 14-hour trip each way for me.
  9. # [00:14] <sgalineau> TabAtkins: from SEA you connect in SFO or LAX -> 19h+. And time to/from airports -> ~40hours of travel round trip
  10. # [00:14] <TabAtkins> Hm, ok.
  11. # [00:14] <TabAtkins> That sounds like a long SEA connection, but wtv.
  12. # [00:15] <TabAtkins> I suppose it's about a 2-hour flight, + layover.
  13. # [00:15] <sgalineau> well, nearly two hours to SFO, say one hour connection minimum. Shortest duration on hipmunk is 15h05 https://www.hipmunk.com/flights/SFO-to-SYD#!dates=Nov14,Nov16&pax=1
  14. # [00:16] <sgalineau> all these things do add up
  15. # [00:16] <sgalineau> anyway. long ass trip.
  16. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> Yeah.
  17. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> Indeed.
  18. # [00:16] <sgalineau> and I don't get to upgrade. so it's a form of agony :)
  19. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> Oh god.
  20. # [00:17] <tantek> TabAtkins: I started an "interested in airbnb" list if that helps: https://wiki.csswg.org/planning/sydney-2015?&#hotels
  21. # [00:17] <TabAtkins> I had to do that in my last trip to Sydney, *and* to Sophia. Was booking late and low on credits. :/
  22. # [00:17] <TabAtkins> tantek: Cool.
  23. # [00:18] <sgalineau> I haven't been there in ages. favorite hood where I stayed was Glebe. Heard it's fancied up now.
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  54. # [07:35] <krit> sgalineau: cabanier had non stop flights from Seattle to Sydney last time IIRC. Weather the connection exists or not, it doesn't fix the issue with the baby ;)
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  80. # [13:51] <glazou> fantasai: ping
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  103. # [16:52] <cabanier> krit: no, had to go to LA first
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  121. # [18:47] <sgalineau> krit: yeah, there used to be some direct flights quite some time ago but it stopped. too small a market.
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  124. # [18:50] <sgalineau> krit: the main options now are either LAX (most choice of airlines) or SFO (United only, I think)
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  196. # [21:51] <Florian> TabAtkins: prism.js can't do html or xhtml?
  197. # [21:51] <Florian> (as the highlighted language, not as the host, of course)
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  201. # [22:10] <TabAtkins> Florian: it's called "markup" in Prism.
  202. # [22:10] <Florian> aha
  203. # [22:10] <TabAtkins> I think I should probably add some aliases for html/xml/xhtml/svg.
  204. # [22:12] <Florian> another issue. if you markup your code with <pre><code> then go to the next line, then write your code, a blank line is inserted
  205. # [22:13] <TabAtkins> That's how <pre> works.
  206. # [22:13] <Florian> which isn't crazy given that it's a <pre> block, but I'd have expected bikeshed to be smarter than that
  207. # [22:13] <Florian> so that I can indent nicely
  208. # [22:13] <TabAtkins> (And Bikeshed is *not* currently smart enough to handle that.)
  209. # [22:14] <Florian> do you expect it to become smart soon, and I can write the markup nicely, or should I do the ugly-but-correct markup?
  210. # [22:14] <TabAtkins> For now you should probably just do a naked <pre>. I'll fix it at some point.
  211. # [22:18] <Florian> the code is already marked-up as <pre><code>, so I'd rather not make it worse. I can live with short-lived styling uglyness
  212. # [22:19] <TabAtkins> All right.
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  215. # [22:25] <Florian> TabAtkins: oops. https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1iy108qli8kg0q/Screenshot%202014-11-13%2022.25.32.png?dl=0
  216. # [22:26] <Florian> that's supposed to be button#b1
  217. # [22:26] <TabAtkins> Pull your csswg repo.
  218. # [22:26] <TabAtkins> I updated the stylesheet to fix that.
  219. # [22:26] <Florian> ah, cool
  220. # [22:26] <TabAtkins> And I forgot to ask fantasai why `span[id] { float: right; }` was in there in the first place.
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  223. # [22:31] <Florian> one more. To markup a selector in the middle of the prose, should I use ''selector'' <a>selector</a> <code>selector</code> ?
  224. # [22:32] <Florian> specifically, when talking about a pseudo class
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  226. # [22:36] <TabAtkins> ''selector''. The ''foo'' syntax recognizes pseudo-classes and pseudo-elements.
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  228. # [22:36] <TabAtkins> It should link them up correctly.
  229. # [22:40] <Florian> thanks
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  234. # [23:04] <TabAtkins> Florian: Okay, <pre><code> should act better now.
  235. # [23:04] <Florian> lovely
  236. # [23:05] <Florian> :(
  237. # [23:05] <Florian> Traceback (most recent call last):
  238. # [23:05] <Florian> File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/bikeshed", line 9, in <module>
  239. # [23:05] <Florian> load_entry_point('Bikeshed==0.0.0', 'console_scripts', 'bikeshed')()
  240. # [23:05] <TabAtkins> This is actually a really annoying part of core HTML, that putting anything else on the first line means you dont' get the "ignore the first line-break" behavior of <pre>. But whatever, Bikeshed's input format isn't exactly HTML.
  241. # [23:05] <Florian> File "/Users/florian/src/bikeshed/bikeshed/__init__.py", line 153, in main
  242. # [23:05] <Florian> doc.preprocess()
  243. # [23:05] <Florian> File "/Users/florian/src/bikeshed/bikeshed/__init__.py", line 1507, in preprocess
  244. # [23:05] <Florian> transformDataBlocks(self)
  245. # [23:05] <Florian> File "/Users/florian/src/bikeshed/bikeshed/__init__.py", line 303, in transformDataBlocks
  246. # [23:05] <Florian> doc=doc)})
  247. # [23:05] <Florian> File "/Users/florian/src/bikeshed/bikeshed/__init__.py", line 346, in transformPre
  248. # [23:05] <Florian> lines[0] = firstLine.rstrip() + lines[0]
  249. # [23:05] <Florian> IndexError: list index out of range
  250. # [23:05] <Florian> shell returned 1
  251. # [23:05] <TabAtkins> lolwut.
  252. # [23:05] <TabAtkins> Send me your source file?
  253. # [23:05] <TabAtkins> I mean, that implies you have an empty <pre> somewhere.
  254. # [23:08] <Florian> I don't think I do, but even if I did, it shouldn't crash
  255. # [23:08] <Florian> file send (by mail)
  256. # [23:08] <Florian> s/send/sent/
  257. # [23:10] <Florian> property values are ok to markup as ''value'', right?
  258. # [23:11] <Florian> nevermind, rtfm says yes
  259. # [23:15] <TabAtkins> Ah, found the issue. Bikeshed doesn't like content on the same line as the opening <pre> unless you're doing a single-line element. (In other words, either the <pre> and </pre> must be on the same line, or there must be nothing on the first line that needs to be interpreted.)
  260. # [23:15] <TabAtkins> but I don't think that's actually required.
  261. # [23:15] <TabAtkins> I think it's okay, in this case, for that first-line stuff to end up being ignored as part of the contents.
  262. # [23:15] <Florian> ok, I'll fix my markup. But still, you shouldn't crash :)
  263. # [23:15] <TabAtkins> Oh, yeah, definitely.
  264. # [23:15] <TabAtkins> Don't fix, I'll fix.
  265. # [23:16] <TabAtkins> I was just describing current behavior.
  266. # [23:20] <Ms2ger> TabAtkins, you're bad at onboarding new contributors :)
  267. # [23:20] <TabAtkins> Hehe.
  268. # [23:20] <TabAtkins> I meant, he shoudln't fix his markup, I'll fix Bikeshed.
  269. # [23:22] <TabAtkins> Florian: Fixed.
  270. # [23:22] <Florian> testing
  271. # [23:23] <Florian> no crash (y)
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  277. # [23:38] <dauwhe> TabAtkins: very impressive that I can do nested DLs with :: ::
  278. # [23:39] <TabAtkins> Once you solve nesting once, it's trivial to apply to all the list types.
  279. # [23:47] <JonathanNeal_> bkardell_: what’s the browser compat on hitch.js?
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  284. # Session Close: Fri Nov 14 00:00:00 2014

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