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  16. # [05:37] <SimonSapin_> TabAtkins: that's fine, as long as we're aware of the change
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  77. # [17:55] <Florian_> mails to Brad.Litterell@microsoft.com (who is subscribed to www-style) bounce, and that causes the sender of mails (me in this case) to be kicked out of the list
  78. # [17:56] <Florian_> should probably kick him instead
  79. # [17:56] * Florian_ thinks of fantasai's tweet: https://twitter.com/fantasai/status/529341665027584001
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  81. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> Bert, ^
  82. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> plh, ^
  83. # [18:09] <Bert> Hmm, that's weird. Trying to see what's going on, Florian.
  84. # [18:10] <Florian_> I guess he no longer works for microsft, so his mail bounce, and since I mailed a lot, Mailman sees me as the cause of bouncing
  85. # [18:13] <plh> he left microsoft in March 2013
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  87. # [18:14] * plh won't look at the patent from Brad...
  88. # [18:18] * Florian_ plh: what patent?
  89. # [18:21] * plh if you're interested, just follow linkedin
  90. # [18:23] <Florian_> not interested, just concerned, as usual with patents
  91. # [18:23] <Florian_> didn't see a link in linkedin
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  109. # [20:04] <dauwhe> There are at least seven proposals for copying document content into running heads.
  110. # [20:05] <Ms2ger> Just seven?
  111. # [20:06] <dauwhe> I only just started looking. And feel free to submit more before the close of business today!
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  116. # [21:09] <zcorpan_> High Expectations Ms2ger thinks you need to try harder
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  129. # [22:56] <Florian> I was wondering about the value of "at risk" under the new process
  130. # [22:56] <Florian> since there is no LC phase to cycle through
  131. # [22:57] <Florian> we'd still need to cycle CR if we want to drop something not marked at risk, but that's less painful, isn't it?
  132. # [22:58] <Florian> and given that casual readers tend to misread "at risk" as meaning that the WG isn't sure this is a good idea and disregard the feature, I wonder if we should stop using at risk altogether
  133. # [22:58] <Florian> opinions?
  134. # [22:58] <TabAtkins> Florian: There's no need for At Risk anymore, for the reason you note.
  135. # [22:59] <astearns> it would be better to have implementation status and test annotations per section
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  137. # [22:59] <Florian> the only thing is that if we want to drop a feature, we have to go through CR again, rather than go straight to PR (assuming we were ready for that), and there's a minimum 4 week wait period for that.
  138. # [22:59] <TabAtkins> Yup. At Risk was never an implementation-status indicator, though it was sometimes abused as such; it was solely a means of marking things so that dropping them in the CR period didn't count as a "significant change" that required cycling back through LC.
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  140. # [23:00] <Florian> I still think we should not use At Risk, but there's that
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  142. # [23:02] <Florian> http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#revised-cr
  143. # [23:03] <astearns> perhaps that should just say "other than to remove features" without requiring them to be at risk
  144. # [23:04] <TabAtkins> Yeah, repubbing a CR isn't as big a deal now. We should just not use At Risk at all.
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  150. # [23:35] <Florian> Maybe I should make this a new value for the cursor property.
  151. # [23:35] <Florian> http://www.pointerpointer.com/
  152. # [23:35] <Florian> probably not in level 3 though
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  155. # [23:48] <tantek> Florian: requires js; didn't read :P
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  157. # [23:52] <TabAtkins> Florian: Hahaha, that site is wonderful.
  158. # [23:53] <TabAtkins> tantek: It requires JS because it finds your pointer position and matches it to a picture of someone pointing at that spot on the screen. There's nothing to read, just experience. ^_^
  159. # [23:53] <tantek> that's kinda nuts
  160. # [23:54] <tantek> how much time did it take to tag all those images?!?
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