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  1. # Session Start: Sat Dec 13 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:00] <Ms2ger> From the web interface? I don't think you can
  4. # [00:00] <Ms2ger> But you also don't need to
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  8. # [00:17] <TabAtkins> tantek: https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork/
  9. # [00:18] <TabAtkins> I added a "sync" alias basically doing that, for when I have my own forks.
  10. # [00:18] * tantek checks the Github mac app to see if it has a "sync" button
  11. # [00:20] <tantek> apparently not. but it does have "Clone to Computer" button
  12. # [00:21] <tantek> TabAtkins: stuck on first command line command:
  13. # [00:21] <tantek> "'upstream' does not appear to be a git repository"
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  15. # [00:37] <TabAtkins> tantek: Follow the "tip" at the beginning.
  16. # [00:37] <TabAtkins> WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS
  17. # [00:37] <tantek> I didn't realize a fork on the github web UI didn't automatically do that
  18. # [00:38] <tantek> because WHY WOULDN'T IT?!?
  19. # [00:38] <TabAtkins> Because GitHub is not Git. ^^;
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  22. # [00:42] <tantek> thanks TabAtkins, and now I'm stuck on the last "Tip" on the page
  23. # [00:42] <tantek> this: " Syncing your fork only updates your local copy of the repository. To update your fork on GitHub, you must push your changes."
  24. # [00:43] <TabAtkins> Yeah?
  25. # [00:43] <tantek> where push your changes links to: https://help.github.com/articles/pushing-to-a-remote/
  26. # [00:43] <tantek> so I tried git push origin master
  27. # [00:43] <TabAtkins> If you've cloned, you can just `git push` and it should be fine.
  28. # [00:44] <tantek> error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing https://github.com/tantek/bikeshed.git/info/refs
  29. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> Oh, that's weird.
  30. # [00:44] <tantek> useful error message. not.
  31. # [00:44] <tantek> :(
  32. # [00:45] <tantek> see how out of date my fork is? https://github.com/tantek/bikeshed
  33. # [00:45] <tantek> it's still called "css-preprocessor"
  34. # [00:45] <TabAtkins> omg
  35. # [00:45] <tantek> see this is what I'm talking about
  36. # [00:45] <tantek> where's the big (SYNC) button that just pulls the latest stuff from tabatkins/bikeshed ?
  37. # [00:46] <tantek> because right there at the top it says: "tantek/bikeshed forked from tabatkins/bikeshed"
  38. # [00:46] <tantek> so it KNOWS where it got it from
  39. # [00:46] <tantek> so it should be able to re-fork or whatever and just update everything
  40. # [00:46] <tantek> especially if there are no conflicts (there are none)
  41. # [00:46] <tantek> since I have no changed files, and you merged all my pull requests
  42. # [00:47] <tantek> as far as I can tell the entire exercise of cloning this locally and doing a bunch of command line spellcasting didn't do squat :(
  43. # [00:48] <TabAtkins> I mean, it sounds like you got close, and then things broke at the push?
  44. # [00:48] <TabAtkins> Possible because of a repo rename.
  45. # [00:48] <tantek> also says on that page: " This branch is 1292 commits behind tabatkins:master"
  46. # [00:49] <TabAtkins> Holy shit, I've written a lot of commits.
  47. # [00:49] <tantek> well ok then, where is the (UPDATE TO tabatkins:master) button right next to that message?
  48. # [00:50] <tantek> or: Why the hell is it telling me I'm "1292 commits behind" if there is nothing actionable?
  49. # [00:50] <TabAtkins> I mean, the asnwer at this point is "delete my code, and re-clone" probably.
  50. # [00:50] <tantek> but wouldn't that delete the history of all my actions?
  51. # [00:50] <TabAtkins> The only important part of your actions exists in my repo already.
  52. # [00:51] <tantek> but won't it delete them from https://github.com/tantek?tab=activity ?
  53. # [00:52] <TabAtkins> Who cares?
  54. # [00:52] <tantek> I tried to fork again but it kept sending me back to the old fork
  55. # [00:52] <tantek> which doesn't make sense
  56. # [00:53] <tantek> if it's not going to give me a way to update that work to your latest version
  57. # [00:53] <TabAtkins> github dont' care, it knows what's best.
  58. # [00:53] <tantek> making it harder for people to stay in sync seems antithetical to "collaboriating"
  59. # [00:53] <tantek> collaborating even
  60. # [00:54] <tantek> which I thought was their whole point
  61. # [00:56] <tantek> alright - they clearly have no interest in making "sync" of a fork easy. just going to delete the local checkout since it serves no purpose.
  62. # [00:58] <tantek> https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607999049728462612&pid=15.1&P=0
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  65. # [01:02] <TabAtkins> I'm still unsure why you are uniquely incapable of succeeding in instructions.
  66. # [01:02] <tantek> this is why I've written the XYZ for dummies pages on the CSSWG wiki for every one of these damn command line tools that we adopt
  67. # [01:02] <tantek> because non of that shit is obvious nor memorable
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  69. # [01:03] <tantek> and all of it is super-fragile to failing for random unpredictable reasons with undecipherable error messages
  70. # [01:03] <TabAtkins> SOFTWARE
  71. # [01:03] <tantek> nope. command line interfaces. uniquely sucky in this regard.
  72. # [01:03] <tantek> I have a pretty high success rate with the web UI
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  106. # [11:49] <krit> astearns: Are the used values of rounded corner on inset() computed relative to the reference box or the reference box - the inset?
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  115. # [14:58] <astearns> krit: should be for the rectangle that the inset defines - so the reference box minus the insets
  116. # [15:13] <krit> astearns: or plus in case of negative insets?
  117. # [15:14] <astearns> right - whatever rectangle the inset function comes up with
  118. # [15:15] <krit> astearns: thanks!
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