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# Session Start: Sat Dec 13 00:00:00 2014
# Session Ident: #css
# [00:00] <Ms2ger> From the web interface? I don't think you can
# [00:00] <Ms2ger> But you also don't need to
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# [00:17] <TabAtkins> tantek: https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork/
# [00:18] <TabAtkins> I added a "sync" alias basically doing that, for when I have my own forks.
# [00:18] * tantek checks the Github mac app to see if it has a "sync" button
# [00:20] <tantek> apparently not. but it does have "Clone to Computer" button
# [00:21] <tantek> TabAtkins: stuck on first command line command:
# [00:21] <tantek> "'upstream' does not appear to be a git repository"
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# [00:37] <TabAtkins> tantek: Follow the "tip" at the beginning.
# [00:37] <TabAtkins> WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS
# [00:37] <tantek> I didn't realize a fork on the github web UI didn't automatically do that
# [00:38] <tantek> because WHY WOULDN'T IT?!?
# [00:38] <TabAtkins> Because GitHub is not Git. ^^;
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# [00:42] <tantek> thanks TabAtkins, and now I'm stuck on the last "Tip" on the page
# [00:42] <tantek> this: " Syncing your fork only updates your local copy of the repository. To update your fork on GitHub, you must push your changes."
# [00:43] <TabAtkins> Yeah?
# [00:43] <tantek> where push your changes links to: https://help.github.com/articles/pushing-to-a-remote/
# [00:43] <tantek> so I tried git push origin master
# [00:43] <TabAtkins> If you've cloned, you can just `git push` and it should be fine.
# [00:44] <tantek> error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing https://github.com/tantek/bikeshed.git/info/refs
# [00:44] <TabAtkins> Oh, that's weird.
# [00:44] <tantek> useful error message. not.
# [00:44] <tantek> :(
# [00:45] <tantek> see how out of date my fork is? https://github.com/tantek/bikeshed
# [00:45] <tantek> it's still called "css-preprocessor"
# [00:45] <TabAtkins> omg
# [00:45] <tantek> see this is what I'm talking about
# [00:45] <tantek> where's the big (SYNC) button that just pulls the latest stuff from tabatkins/bikeshed ?
# [00:46] <tantek> because right there at the top it says: "tantek/bikeshed forked from tabatkins/bikeshed"
# [00:46] <tantek> so it KNOWS where it got it from
# [00:46] <tantek> so it should be able to re-fork or whatever and just update everything
# [00:46] <tantek> especially if there are no conflicts (there are none)
# [00:46] <tantek> since I have no changed files, and you merged all my pull requests
# [00:47] <tantek> as far as I can tell the entire exercise of cloning this locally and doing a bunch of command line spellcasting didn't do squat :(
# [00:48] <TabAtkins> I mean, it sounds like you got close, and then things broke at the push?
# [00:48] <TabAtkins> Possible because of a repo rename.
# [00:48] <tantek> also says on that page: " This branch is 1292 commits behind tabatkins:master"
# [00:49] <TabAtkins> Holy shit, I've written a lot of commits.
# [00:49] <tantek> well ok then, where is the (UPDATE TO tabatkins:master) button right next to that message?
# [00:50] <tantek> or: Why the hell is it telling me I'm "1292 commits behind" if there is nothing actionable?
# [00:50] <TabAtkins> I mean, the asnwer at this point is "delete my code, and re-clone" probably.
# [00:50] <tantek> but wouldn't that delete the history of all my actions?
# [00:50] <TabAtkins> The only important part of your actions exists in my repo already.
# [00:51] <tantek> but won't it delete them from https://github.com/tantek?tab=activity ?
# [00:52] <TabAtkins> Who cares?
# [00:52] <tantek> I tried to fork again but it kept sending me back to the old fork
# [00:52] <tantek> which doesn't make sense
# [00:53] <tantek> if it's not going to give me a way to update that work to your latest version
# [00:53] <TabAtkins> github dont' care, it knows what's best.
# [00:53] <tantek> making it harder for people to stay in sync seems antithetical to "collaboriating"
# [00:53] <tantek> collaborating even
# [00:54] <tantek> which I thought was their whole point
# [00:56] <tantek> alright - they clearly have no interest in making "sync" of a fork easy. just going to delete the local checkout since it serves no purpose.
# [00:58] <tantek> https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607999049728462612&pid=15.1&P=0
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# [01:02] <TabAtkins> I'm still unsure why you are uniquely incapable of succeeding in instructions.
# [01:02] <tantek> this is why I've written the XYZ for dummies pages on the CSSWG wiki for every one of these damn command line tools that we adopt
# [01:02] <tantek> because non of that shit is obvious nor memorable
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# [01:03] <tantek> and all of it is super-fragile to failing for random unpredictable reasons with undecipherable error messages
# [01:03] <TabAtkins> SOFTWARE
# [01:03] <tantek> nope. command line interfaces. uniquely sucky in this regard.
# [01:03] <tantek> I have a pretty high success rate with the web UI
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# [11:49] <krit> astearns: Are the used values of rounded corner on inset() computed relative to the reference box or the reference box - the inset?
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# [14:58] <astearns> krit: should be for the rectangle that the inset defines - so the reference box minus the insets
# [15:13] <krit> astearns: or plus in case of negative insets?
# [15:14] <astearns> right - whatever rectangle the inset function comes up with
# [15:15] <krit> astearns: thanks!
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