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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 24 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:03] * fantasai pokes TabAtkins
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  5. # [00:04] * tantek fantasai what is this, FB?
  6. # [00:05] * fantasai has been poking things since before FB
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  8. # [00:28] <TabAtkins> Okay, whatevs, ready now if you are.
  9. # [00:28] <fantasai> okay, I'm here
  10. # [00:29] <fantasai> I think we've got a bunch of open issues, and then a shrink-to-fit issue that I vaguely remember existing, but don't remember what it is...
  11. # [00:31] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox-1/issues-lc-20140925
  12. # [00:31] <fantasai> TabAtkins: First one is using preferred size in place of max-content size.
  13. # [00:31] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I think the blocker there is that we don't have an updated draft of Sizing with that concept in it
  14. # [00:32] * fantasai is a bit scared to work on sizing
  15. # [00:32] <TabAtkins> Then we just need to publish a new WD.
  16. # [00:32] <TabAtkins> It's in the ED.
  17. # [00:32] <TabAtkins> preferred size = max-content size, unless otherwise specified.
  18. # [00:32] <fantasai> TabAtkins: k. Is there anything else significant that we should fix in Sizing before publishing?
  19. # [00:33] <TabAtkins> Ooh, let me review.
  20. # [00:33] * fantasai remembers something being wrong about contributions, that we discussed last week
  21. # [00:33] * fantasai looks up the hg log to see what we worked on
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  23. # [00:34] <fantasai> Looks like we also need to publish an update to Writing modes >_<
  24. # [00:34] <fantasai> for vocabulary updates
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  26. # [00:34] <fantasai> So, Flexbox + Writing Modes + Sizing will need to coordinate on publishing the update
  27. # [00:34] <fantasai> :/
  28. # [00:35] <TabAtkins> It's cool, we just have to publish all of them twice in a row.
  29. # [00:35] <TabAtkins> Eventual consistency.
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  31. # [00:36] <fantasai> TabAtkins: ?
  32. # [00:36] <fantasai> TabAtkins: wouldn't that leave us with broken cross-links in the interim?
  33. # [00:38] <TabAtkins> Yeah, for a day or two. And?
  34. # [00:39] <TabAtkins> It's literally just: 1. publish them with broken links. 2. Let Shepherd parse the new /TR definitions. 3. Publish them with non-broken links.
  35. # [00:39] <fantasai> That's fine ^_^
  36. # [00:39] <fantasai> I think the issue is getting all three drafts into a state of publishability
  37. # [00:40] <fantasai> Writing Modes needs probably a half-day to 2 days of work, I think.
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  39. # [00:40] <fantasai> And we should fix that sizing bug that was undefined
  40. # [00:40] <TabAtkins> Yup yup.
  41. # [00:40] <TabAtkins> Let me write this down...
  42. # [00:40] <fantasai> Want to do that while I update the Changes section? :)
  43. # [00:40] <TabAtkins> Or that, sure.
  44. # [00:41] <fantasai> Oh, hgweb is now under our control....
  45. # [00:41] <fantasai> plinss: Can we get the hg logs to show the actual checkin dates instead of "22 months ago"? :) :) :)
  46. # [00:41] <TabAtkins> haha what
  47. # [00:42] <fantasai> plinss: Adding in the name of the committer would be extra awesome
  48. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> fantasai: Or you can just switch to using git like the rest of us. ^_^
  49. # [00:44] * fantasai is lazy and can never remember the revert command
  50. # [00:44] <fantasai> :p
  51. # [00:44] <fantasai> I suppose I can write a translation script
  52. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> To back out a commit you just did?
  53. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> Or to reset back to tip of history?
  54. # [00:44] <fantasai> the latter
  55. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> git reset --hard
  56. # [00:44] <fantasai> although both are useful
  57. # [00:44] <TabAtkins> The other is git reset HEAD^^
  58. # [00:45] <fantasai> I was told git checkout -- or something
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  60. # [00:45] <TabAtkins> Oh, if you want to reset *one file* or soemthing, sure.
  61. # [00:46] <TabAtkins> (the use of checkout for this is a bizarre git-ism)
  62. # [00:46] <fantasai> They should just make a 'revert' alias ^_^
  63. # [00:46] <TabAtkins> Yup yup.
  64. # [00:47] <fantasai> wow, this draft is older than the Great Renaming
  65. # [00:48] <TabAtkins> Which one?
  66. # [00:48] <fantasai> Sizing
  67. # [00:49] <TabAtkins> Oh, the /TR draft. Yeah.
  68. # [00:51] <Ms2ger> Ah, I sure am glad that the New Process fixed everything
  69. # [00:53] <fantasai> The new W3C Process?
  70. # [00:54] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: Yo, where is the File API draft stored? Would prefer to Bikeshed the source, not the generated.
  71. # [00:54] <fantasai> No, that just fixed the CR<->LC cycling.
  72. # [00:54] <fantasai> It fixed a few other things,I think.
  73. # [00:54] <fantasai> And regressed REC editing
  74. # [00:54] <Ms2ger> TabAtkins, I fear CVS
  75. # [00:55] * fantasai tries to figure out what https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/diff/0cb8bb395c58/css3-sizing/Overview.src.html does
  76. # [00:55] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: lololol
  77. # [00:55] <Ms2ger> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/FileAPI/
  78. # [01:00] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I think we need to clean up the terminology section
  79. # [01:01] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Right now there's a lot of hidden terms, probably they should be visible...
  80. # [01:01] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Did you fix the size contribution thing that was broken?
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  82. # [01:02] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: Oh god, it's written in XML with an XSLT copy-pasted from old WebIDL, never mind I'll just convert from the generated file.
  83. # [01:02] <TabAtkins> fantasai: Pushing now.
  84. # [01:02] <fantasai> k
  85. # [01:02] * fantasai just pushed the Changes section
  86. # [01:03] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-sizing/#terms
  87. # [01:03] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: I guess I'll just email WebApps with the source and generated files when it's done?
  88. # [01:03] <Ms2ger> Wfm
  89. # [01:03] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Any ideas how to clean this section up?
  90. # [01:04] <TabAtkins> Hmmmm
  91. # [01:04] <fantasai> Oh, we also have the Floats issue Greg brought up
  92. # [01:04] <fantasai> >_<
  93. # [01:04] <TabAtkins> Well, as a first step, we can organize, with headings, some of the terms by their base term.
  94. # [01:04] <TabAtkins> All the "contribution" terms, etc.
  95. # [01:04] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Okay
  96. # [01:05] * fantasai dumps all the terms into etherpad
  97. # [01:05] <TabAtkins> And we can switch to <a>, so the terms we're assuming we'll define at some point will actually trigger link failures.
  98. # [01:05] <fantasai> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tab-and-fantasai
  99. # [01:07] <fantasai> OK, all listed
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  102. # [01:15] <fantasai> heh
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  110. # [02:06] <TabAtkins> All right, done.
  111. # [02:06] <TabAtkins> plinss: To make you happy, I'm deleting the .html from each folder in the repo as I work on them.
  112. # [02:07] <astearns> I just did that for shapes 2, too
  113. # [02:07] <fantasai> I can't seem to pull your changes :/
  114. # [02:08] * fantasai looks on dev.w3.org
  115. # [02:08] <TabAtkins> Dunno how fast the git<->hg syncing is.
  116. # [02:09] * astearns dangit, should have been s/for/to/
  117. # [02:09] <fantasai> dev.w3.org is up to date
  118. # [02:11] <fantasai> and I can see your changes locally in hg log
  119. # [02:11] * fantasai very confused now
  120. # [02:11] <fantasai> oh, I see the terminology changes
  121. # [02:11] <fantasai> but not the other one
  122. # [02:11] <fantasai> The non-replaced elements one
  123. # [02:12] <fantasai> https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/diff/7516b0cbd22b/css-sizing/Overview.bs
  124. # [02:12] <fantasai> search for outer
  125. # [02:12] <fantasai> I think you dropped it during the merge!
  126. # [02:12] <TabAtkins> Urgh.
  127. # [02:12] <fantasai> That said
  128. # [02:12] <TabAtkins> But I pushed that beforehand, hm.
  129. # [02:12] <fantasai> I think we should fix that one earlier in the section
  130. # [02:12] <fantasai> Since the size contribution definition is always the same
  131. # [02:13] <fantasai> right?
  132. # [02:13] <fantasai> Shouldn't need to be repeated for each type
  133. # [02:13] <TabAtkins> It's not the same for everything, though.
  134. # [02:13] <TabAtkins> Like, the very next section has different definition.
  135. # [02:14] <fantasai> ...
  136. # [02:14] <fantasai> yeah, you're right
  137. # [02:14] <fantasai> Although I'm still thinking...
  138. # [02:14] <fantasai> we should split out the contributions into their own section
  139. # [02:15] <TabAtkins> I don't think it's worthwhile, but I could be convinced.
  140. # [02:15] <fantasai> I think it'd be less confusing if we didn't put intrinsic contributions and sizes lumped together in the same para
  141. # [02:15] <fantasai> people keep mixing up the concepts
  142. # [02:18] * fantasai pokes at the new text
  143. # [02:19] <fantasai> So, I think we should collapse fill-available * into a single definition
  144. # [02:19] <fantasai> since it's just repeating itself
  145. # [02:19] <fantasai> also the second link is wrong :)
  146. # [02:20] <TabAtkins> That's how it was before. It definitely looked wrong. ^_^
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  148. # [02:20] <fantasai> No, I mean like
  149. # [02:20] <fantasai> <dt>
  150. # [02:20] <fantasai> <dt>
  151. # [02:20] <fantasai> <dt>
  152. # [02:20] <fantasai> <dd>
  153. # [02:20] <TabAtkins> Yeah.
  154. # [02:20] <TabAtkins> By "how it was before", I meant the link.
  155. # [02:21] <fantasai> huh?
  156. # [02:21] <fantasai> what link?
  157. # [02:21] <TabAtkins> Collapsed.
  158. # [02:21] <TabAtkins> You said "also the second link is wrong"
  159. # [02:23] <fantasai> Yeah, it ponts to intrinsic sizing
  160. # [02:23] * fantasai tweaks things
  161. # [02:26] <TabAtkins> Wait, pull.
  162. # [02:27] * fantasai pulls
  163. # [02:28] <fantasai> you dropped a note
  164. # [02:28] * fantasai puts it back
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  166. # [02:30] * fantasai generalizes the general definitions
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  168. # [02:32] * fantasai pushes
  169. # [02:33] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Right now Writing Modes uses the hyphenated forme everywhere, block-size and inline-size
  170. # [02:34] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Should I change that to leave out the hyphen, like for the axes?
  171. # [02:34] <TabAtkins> But that violates our guidelines of only using hyphens for the adjective form.
  172. # [02:34] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Yeah. I don't like it either. I think I did it because we use size and block and inline so many places I was afraid of it getting confusing
  173. # [02:34] <fantasai> TabAtkins: https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/diff/b8a3d77039b0/css-sizing/Overview.bs
  174. # [02:34] <TabAtkins> If necessary we can double-up on the definitions.
  175. # [02:35] <TabAtkins> s/small/smallest/
  176. # [02:36] <TabAtkins> Otherwise looks good.
  177. # [02:36] <fantasai> k
  178. # [02:36] * fantasai fixes typo
  179. # [02:36] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Anything else we should definitely fix before publishing?
  180. # [02:36] <TabAtkins> There's that Greg thing.
  181. # [02:37] <fantasai> which one?
  182. # [02:37] <TabAtkins> something about floats? you mentioned it earlier.
  183. # [02:37] <fantasai> Ohyeah
  184. # [02:37] <fantasai> *thinks*
  185. # [02:37] <fantasai> It was about the max-content size (or preferred size)
  186. # [02:37] <fantasai> If you have two floats in a div
  187. # [02:38] <fantasai> They can fit side by side
  188. # [02:38] <fantasai> but if you shrinkwrap them, in Gecko they pick the size of the largest, not the combined size
  189. # [02:38] <fantasai> So that they end up one after the other
  190. # [02:38] <fantasai> I think this is also true in Chrome
  191. # [02:38] <fantasai> Basically, this ends up being not a true maximum size, but rather an approximation
  192. # [02:39] <TabAtkins> Ah, found it.
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  194. # [02:40] <TabAtkins> Starting message https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Oct/0061.html
  195. # [02:40] <TabAtkins> dbaron followup https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Nov/0085.html
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  197. # [02:44] <fantasai> TabAtkins: From what I recall about the floats issue, web-compat depends on it
  198. # [02:44] <TabAtkins> It tends to, yes. Sigh.
  199. # [02:44] * TabAtkins hates floats so bad.
  200. # [02:45] <TabAtkins> Okay, so this just affects the min/max-content contributions of block layout, right?
  201. # [02:45] <fantasai> and their sizes, yeah
  202. # [02:46] <fantasai> We can just paste an issue in for now, just so long as we point it out
  203. # [02:46] <TabAtkins> Okay, you wanna do that?
  204. # [02:46] <fantasai> yep
  205. # [02:46] <fantasai> will do
  206. # [02:46] <fantasai> Then there was
  207. # [02:46] <fantasai> There was something we fixed in flexbox that needs fixing in sizing
  208. # [02:46] <fantasai> in September
  209. # [02:46] <fantasai> from dholbert
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  211. # [02:47] <TabAtkins> that's an interestingly specific memory
  212. # [02:47] * fantasai was compiling the Flexbox issues list this week
  213. # [02:47] <TabAtkins> But there are no dholbert emails about flexbox in september. ^_^
  214. # [02:47] <fantasai> search for messages from me to dholbert ^_^
  215. # [02:48] <TabAtkins> Just something about scrolling, which was fixed in Alignment.
  216. # [02:48] <fantasai> :/
  217. # [02:48] * fantasai will have to search through
  218. # [02:49] <fantasai> The third confusing issue was something about percentages inside shrink-to-fit
  219. # [02:49] <fantasai> we discussed it in sophia, I think?
  220. # [02:50] <TabAtkins> Got it.
  221. # [02:50] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Sep/0383.html
  222. # [02:50] <fantasai> Found it
  223. # [02:50] <TabAtkins> Haha
  224. # [02:51] <fantasai> It was a reply to you, not dholbert :p
  225. # [02:52] <fantasai> Did you find the other issue on percentages on shrink-to-fit in Sophia?
  226. # [02:52] <fantasai> Or you ran across the email I just posted? :)
  227. # [02:52] <TabAtkins> I found that issue in the minutes for sophia.
  228. # [02:52] <fantasai> cool
  229. # [02:52] <fantasai> Then we have the two issues that are confusing
  230. # [02:52] <TabAtkins> The one you just posted, just in minutes.
  231. # [02:52] <fantasai> ah
  232. # [02:53] * fantasai thought there was another one, maybe raised by SimonSapin
  233. # [02:53] <fantasai> Anyway
  234. # [02:53] <fantasai> So
  235. # [02:53] <fantasai> Where do we put this statement? ^_^
  236. # [02:53] <fantasai> Do we need a new section on Percentage Sizing?
  237. # [02:53] <TabAtkins> Hmmmmmmmmm
  238. # [02:53] * leaverou is now known as leaverou_away
  239. # [02:53] <fantasai> Issue: Put something useful here.
  240. # [02:53] * trackbot is creating a new ISSUE.
  241. # [02:53] <trackbot> Created ISSUE-349 - Put something useful here.. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/issues/349/edit>.
  242. # [02:53] <TabAtkins> Yes.
  243. # [02:53] <fantasai> Percentages ignore intrinsic min-sizes
  244. # [02:53] <fantasai> </section>
  245. # [02:53] <TabAtkins> Hahaha, Tracker, you so crazy.
  246. # [02:53] <fantasai> trackbot: close ISSUE349
  247. # [02:53] <trackbot> Sorry, fantasai, I don't understand 'trackbot: close ISSUE349'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
  248. # [02:53] <fantasai> trackbot: close ISSUE-349
  249. # [02:53] * trackbot is closing ISSUE-349.
  250. # [02:53] <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-349.
  251. # [02:53] <fantasai> heh
  252. # [02:54] * fantasai shouldn't have capitalized the issue ^_^;;
  253. # [02:54] <TabAtkins> I mean, I guess we can just do what you outlined for now.
  254. # [02:54] <TabAtkins> Gotta go home soon, so let's pop it in with an issue to expand to something sensical.
  255. # [02:54] * fantasai copies text from Flexbox
  256. # [02:55] <fantasai> ok, so while you're here
  257. # [02:55] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox-1/issues-lc-20140925
  258. # [02:55] <fantasai> What do you want to do about Issue 7?
  259. # [02:55] <TabAtkins> I wanna alias it.
  260. # [02:55] <fantasai> Aliases for values suck.
  261. # [02:55] <TabAtkins> And also alias the other instances of nowrap.
  262. # [02:55] <fantasai> well, yes, we'd have to do all of them at once
  263. # [02:56] <TabAtkins> Yeah, but legacy mistakes gettings compounded through expansion to new APIs also suck.
  264. # [02:56] <TabAtkins> It's just an extra value that happens to ahve the same effect as an existing one.
  265. # [02:57] <fantasai> Ok. We'll have to raise it to the WG
  266. # [02:57] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Sep/0396.html
  267. # [02:57] <fantasai> I didn't quite figure out what we're supposed to fix in this thread
  268. # [02:57] <fantasai> It concluded with something needing clarification
  269. # [02:57] <fantasai> and me being confused if the spec is actually correct
  270. # [02:57] <fantasai> ^___;
  271. # [02:59] <TabAtkins> Hm.
  272. # [02:59] <TabAtkins> I'm not sure if it's correct or not either.
  273. # [03:00] <TabAtkins> I mean, don't absposes go against the icb, which isnt' infinite?
  274. # [03:01] * fantasai isn't sure
  275. # [03:01] * fantasai looks it up
  276. # [03:02] <TabAtkins> I mean, all browsers do the same thing now, which Francois claims is the "infinite" thing.
  277. # [03:02] <TabAtkins> But I've gotta catch a bus now. See you on Monday.
  278. # [03:02] <fantasai> okay
  279. # [03:02] <fantasai> laters~
  280. # [03:02] <TabAtkins> And send me line-items for the sydney f2f po
  281. # [03:02] <fantasai> OK
  282. # [03:02] <TabAtkins> They prefer I submit the PO *before* you do work. ^_^
  283. # [03:03] <fantasai> heh
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  290. # [03:40] <TabAtkins> tantek: A bunch of convo was in the etherpad in the middle, so you're missing context.
  291. # [03:40] * tantek is used to missing context.
  292. # [03:40] * tantek reads the etherpad anyway
  293. # [03:41] * tantek chuckles at there being both fragmentation and fragmention in the context of web technologies now.
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  308. # [04:44] <JonathanNeal_> fragmentions are something else now, tantek?
  309. # [04:45] <tantek> well they are different from Flexbox fragmentations :)
  310. # [05:00] <fantasai> What's a fragmention?
  311. # [05:02] <astearns> deep linking into content
  312. # [05:03] <astearns> mentioning a fragment
  313. # [05:03] <fantasai> Oh, that totally makes sense
  314. # [05:03] <fantasai> very nice portmanteau
  315. # [05:04] <fantasai> astearns: what did we talk about on Friday in Seattle?
  316. # [05:04] * fantasai remembers talking about stuff, but can't remember at all what was involved in the discussion
  317. # [05:04] <astearns> line grid, mainly
  318. # [05:04] <fantasai> oh yeah
  319. # [05:05] <astearns> adding more issues to the draft :)
  320. # [05:05] <astearns> I've made the edits, things should be rearranged now as we planned
  321. # [05:06] <fantasai> cool
  322. # [05:07] <liam> astearns, naah, they are just fragmentations of your imagination! :)
  323. # [05:08] * fantasai also remembers discussing a ton of stuff with Rossen...
  324. # [05:08] <fantasai> I need to take notes next time ~_~
  325. # [05:09] <tantek> fantasai: http://indiewebcamp.com/fragmentions
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