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  1. # Session Start: Thu Feb 05 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  16. # [02:36] <JonathanNeal_> Why does <audio> claim to have display: inline while acting like display: none? Is that part of a spec?
  17. # [02:40] <SimonSapin> JonathanNeal_: acting like?
  18. # [02:41] <JonathanNeal_> Well, it says it is inline with a width and height and position static, but it doesn’t take up any layout.
  19. # [02:41] <SimonSapin> "The audio element, when it is exposing a user interface, is expected to be treated as a replaced element about one line high, as wide as is necessary to expose the user agent's user interface features. When an audio element is not exposing a user interface, the user agent is expected to force its 'display' property to compute to 'none', irrespective of CSS rules."
  20. # [02:41] <SimonSapin> in https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/rendering.html
  21. # [02:42] <SimonSapin> "exposing a user interface" being a link to https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#expose-a-user-interface-to-the-user
  22. # [02:51] <JonathanNeal_> Wow, so everybody but Firefox gets it wrong. Way to go, FF.
  23. # [02:52] <TabAtkins> Huh?
  24. # [02:52] <TabAtkins> Oh, other browsers dont' compute it to none?
  25. # [02:52] <JonathanNeal_> Correct. They all compute to inline
  26. # [02:57] <SimonSapin> JonathanNeal_: so it behaves like none but getComputedStyle returns inline?
  27. # [02:57] <JonathanNeal_> Correct. Dev tools gives it a width and height as well.
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  30. # [02:59] <JonathanNeal_> Rather, it claims the width and height come from the user agent stylesheet.
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  32. # [03:06] <SimonSapin> computed values of the 'width' and 'height' properties, or actual size after layout?
  33. # [03:06] <SimonSapin> it’s normal to have arbitrary computed values even if 'display' is 'none'
  34. # [03:09] <JonathanNeal_> SimonSapin: sure, display none with computed width and height.
  35. # [03:10] <JonathanNeal_> my bad, display inline with computed width and height
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  38. # [03:44] <JonathanNeal_> Heres my test: http://sandbox.thewikies.com/computedStyle/
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  42. # [04:37] <JonathanNeal_> How much smaller is css smaller supposed to be?
  43. # [04:53] <SimonSapin> haha
  44. # [04:54] <SimonSapin> JonathanNeal_: https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/3423#issuecomment-56321664
  45. # [04:55] <JonathanNeal_> Graphs!
  46. # [05:00] <SimonSapin> I ended up doing 80%, in Servo
  47. # [05:00] <SimonSapin> or 85% maybe
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  57. # [07:32] <zcorpan> JonathanNeal_: it's possible that the spec changed after it was implemented, but certainly it was several years ago now. file bugs?
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  64. # [09:35] <zcorpan> how does one upload things to w3cmemes these days?
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  78. # [13:12] <TabAtkins> zcorpan: Ask sylvaing or hober?
  79. # [13:12] <zcorpan> sylvaing: hober: ^
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  117. # [20:35] <hober> zcor<TAB>
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