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  100. # [21:53] <estellevw> hi TabAtkins and fantasai (I assume Rossen_away means he’s away), can I ask you some questions about flexbox spec.
  101. # [21:54] <estellevw> i am reading the spec and there is the example in http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-flexbox/#flex-common of flex: initial
  102. # [21:54] <estellevw> though initial is not a keyterm listed under flex shorthand or under the long hand properties.
  103. # [21:56] <estellevw> is ‘initial’ an actual value? or should we change the value to flex: 0 1 auto under 7.1.1
  104. # [21:57] <Florian> hi estellevw
  105. # [21:57] <estellevw> hi
  106. # [21:57] <TabAtkins> estellevw: initial is a global keyword that all properties accept.
  107. # [21:57] <Florian> initial is a valid value of all properties, not just flex, so it is not listed explicitly in each spec
  108. # [21:58] <estellevw> how did i miss that?
  109. # [21:58] <Florian> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-values/#common-keywords
  110. # [21:58] <estellevw> thanks
  111. # [21:59] <Florian> TabTakins: the flexbox spec in the Intro says this: "In addition to the property-specific values listed in their definitions, all properties defined in this specification also accept the inherit keyword as their property value. For readability it has not been repeated explicitly."
  112. # [21:59] <Florian> this is correct, but incomplete, which makes it missleading
  113. # [22:00] <Florian> (section 1.3)
  114. # [22:00] <Florian> Bikeshed should probably generate the generalized version of this, so that every spec has it and has it correctly
  115. # [22:01] <estellevw> do all properties accept “unset”
  116. # [22:02] <estellevw> i knew about inherit, but not initial.
  117. # [22:03] <estellevw> if unset is global, it should be added to the 3.1.1 CSS-wide keyword heading along with initial and inherit.
  118. # [22:05] <Florian> estellevw: yes, unset applies to everything. If you follow the specs links along to http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-css-cascade-3-20131003/#defaulting-keywords, it becomes a bit more clear. But I agree with you it could be made more explicit However, support is still lacking. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/unset
  119. # [22:07] <Florian> Well, actually, the way this is written in the official version of css3-values (http://www.w3.org/TR/css-values/#common-keywords) makes it a bit more clear
  120. # [22:09] <Florian> TabAtkins: With the ED phrasing, the title of section 3.1.1 should be "CSS-wide keywords: initial, inherit and unset". It would be clearer
  121. # [22:11] <Florian> TabAtkins: Do you mind if If I go ahead and just make the change? This sounds editorial enough to me that we should just go ahead and fix this, but maybe you want to be extra careful because the spec is already in CR
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  123. # [22:25] <TabAtkins> Florian: go for it
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  125. # [22:37] <Florian> done
  126. # [22:37] <Florian> estellevw: Check http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-values/#common-keywords again. Should be better now
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  128. # [22:52] <estellevw> Thanks Florian. I was just going to put in a pull request for that
  129. # [22:52] <Florian> Who says standards take forever? :)
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