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  94. # [20:11] <fantasai> TabAtkins: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014May/0031.html
  95. # [20:11] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jun/0027.html
  96. # [20:11] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014May/0435.html
  97. # [20:11] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014May/0434.html
  98. # [20:11] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jun/0208.html
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  100. # [20:13] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Aug/0572.html
  101. # [20:13] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Aug/0210.html
  102. # [20:13] <fantasai> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Sep/0060.html
  103. # [20:13] <fantasai> That's all the top-level threads tagged with [css-variables]
  104. # [20:27] <SimonSapin> fantasai: Re <custom-ident>, I thought we had decided against the context-dependence specified in today’s ED
  105. # [20:28] <fantasai> I thought the ED isn't context-dependent?
  106. # [20:28] * fantasai is pretty confused
  107. # [20:28] <fantasai> IIRC the behavior we resolved was the behavior of animation-name
  108. # [20:28] <fantasai> in the animation shorthand
  109. # [20:29] <fantasai> I think that's also in the spec
  110. # [20:29] <fantasai> if I'm wrong on either point, let me know :)
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  112. # [20:29] <SimonSapin> In the spec’s example, ease-out is a valid <custom-ident> based on context (where <single-timing-function> was already fulfilled earlier in the input)
  113. # [20:30] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Go read the minutes from the last meeting.
  114. # [20:30] <SimonSapin> ok
  115. # [20:30] <TabAtkins> Position-dependent parsing was accepted, but it's meant only for legacy properties that get upgraded into custom-ident later. Things designed with <custom-ident> from the start should be positionally unambiguous.
  116. # [20:31] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: You started the f2f topic by saying you don't like that behavior, I explained why we kept it, the WG resolved to keep it.
  117. # [20:32] <SimonSapin> oh, right, I remember now
  118. # [20:32] <SimonSapin> never mind :)
  119. # [20:34] <SimonSapin> I guess it’s not so bad after all: the parsing code doesn’t have to actually record context, it can just test for <custom-ident> last (and of course not test for already-fullfilled productions without multipliers)
  120. # [20:35] * fantasai is happy SimonSapin is happy
  121. # [20:35] <fantasai> :)
  122. # [20:39] <SimonSapin> fantasai: I looked at the significant V&U changes you listed in your email. Ship it :)
  123. # [20:39] <fantasai> :)
  124. # [20:39] <fantasai> We'll need a Wg resolution on that, but I don't think anything will be controversial
  125. # [20:39] <fantasai> should be quick
  126. # [20:40] <SimonSapin> At first I missed the "unfulfilled" bit of the <custom-ident> text (which changes the meaning completely) but the example clears it up.
  127. # [20:40] <fantasai> cool
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  134. # [21:25] <dbaron> so autogeneration by bikeshed seems to be either broken or slow
  135. # [21:25] <dbaron> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-cascade/#shorthand says "Bikeshed pending"
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  137. # [21:34] <fantasai> plinss
  138. # [21:34] <fantasai> plinss: It looks like the repo no longer rejects added heads
  139. # [21:34] <fantasai> plinss: and I just apparently added a new head, because I didn't pull Tab's last set of changes
  140. # [21:34] <fantasai> plinss: and I can't convince mercurial to merge anything
  141. # [21:35] <fantasai> plinss: it just gives me an error
  142. # [21:35] <fantasai> dbaron: cascade is loading for me now
  143. # [21:36] <fantasai> dbaron: if you can convince mercurial to merge that'd be awesome
  144. # [21:36] * fantasai has no idea
  145. # [21:36] <dbaron> fantasai, eh?
  146. # [21:36] <fantasai> there's two heads in the repo
  147. # [21:36] <fantasai> hg merge refuses to do anything about it
  148. # [21:36] <fantasai> ☯ ~/w3c/csswg/css-sizing$ hg merge
  149. # [21:36] <fantasai> abort: heads are bookmarked - please merge with an explicit rev
  150. # [21:36] <fantasai> (run 'hg heads' to see all heads)
  151. # [21:36] <fantasai> ☯ ~/w3c/csswg/css-sizing$
  152. # [21:37] <dbaron> fantasai, You need to update to one of the heads and then type "hg merge"
  153. # [21:37] <dbaron> fantasai, since by default "hg merge" tries to merge the parent (i.e., the revision of the working directory) with the thing you're merging with
  154. # [21:37] <dbaron> fantasai, and if there's only one thing to merge with then it just picks that one
  155. # [21:37] <fantasai> still get the same error
  156. # [21:38] <dbaron> fantasai, should I fix it, then?
  157. # [21:38] <dbaron> fantasai, it works for me
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  159. # [21:38] <fantasai> okay, go ahead
  160. # [21:38] <dbaron> fantasai, done
  161. # [21:38] <fantasai> Thanks!
  162. # [21:38] <fantasai> ok, lunch break now
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  164. # [21:43] <dbaron> fantasai, I suspect your problem has something to do with use of the bookmarks extension?
  165. # [21:44] <dbaron> well, I guess it's not an extension anymore
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  168. # [21:57] <plinss> fantasai: looks like you pushed to hg about the same time Tab pushed to GitHub
  169. # [21:58] <plinss> that will create multiple heads and unfortunately, there’s no way to prevent it
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  177. # [22:20] <fantasai> TabAtkins: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Jun/0156.html
  178. # [22:23] <fantasai> 1. Restore 'default'
  179. # [22:23] <fantasai> 2. add @media supports() https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jan/0292.html
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  181. # [22:24] <fantasai> 3. Clarify interaction of default/unset (default removes unset, because it's a rollback, and unset isn't)
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  184. # [22:27] <SimonSapin> fantasai: @media supports(), not just @import supports()?
  185. # [22:27] <fantasai> SimonSapin: why would you ever want @media supports()?
  186. # [22:27] <fantasai> SimonSapin: Just use @supports
  187. # [22:27] <SimonSapin> right
  188. # [22:27] <fantasai> oh
  189. # [22:27] <fantasai> s/@media/@import
  190. # [22:27] <fantasai> heh
  191. # [22:27] <SimonSapin> so it’s a just a typo
  192. # [22:27] <fantasai> yeah
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