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  30. # [10:02] <SimonSapin> plinss: Instead of the "Bikeshed Pending" page, could we show the previous version?
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  33. # [10:04] <Florian> do we have a rule or guideline about whether non terminals in css (property or descriptor) grammars should be-called-like-this or be_called_like_this?
  34. # [10:07] <Florian> MQ3 and css-conditional use underscores, MQ4 or images-3 uses hyphens
  35. # [10:14] <zcorpan> i'd prefer hyphens personally
  36. # [10:16] <Florian> me too. There is some duplication of non terminals between MQ4 and css-conditional, so I was thinking of reusing the css-conditional non-terminals in MQ4, but the mix of - and _ looked ugly, and I was thinking of patching up css-conditional to look prettier before I used it
  37. # [10:16] <Florian> but I was wondering if that would go against a guideline of some kind
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  39. # [10:46] <SimonSapin> plinss: especially since pages seem to stay in Pending state for a long time (http://dev.w3.org/csswg/mediaqueries-4/ still is, 40 minutes later or so)
  40. # [10:54] <Florian> SimonSapin: plinss: Flexbox is still pending as well, since at least as long as MQ4, and possibly way longer
  41. # [10:55] <SimonSapin> so it looks like at least two issues: updates seem to get stuck sometimes, and previous versions should only be taken down when the update is done, not when it starts being scheduled
  42. # [10:56] <Florian> Agreed
  43. # [10:57] <Florian> btw, using bikeshed, what's the correct way to extend a prop that exists in another spec?
  44. # [11:17] <Florian> do you know if this is generic boilerplate (that we can do away with if not generate by bikeshed), or if this is actually something that should stay:
  45. # [11:17] <Florian> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-conditional-3/#base-modules
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  53. # [13:47] <plinss> SimonSapin: yeah, already working on it
  54. # [13:47] <SimonSapin> cool
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  57. # [15:19] <zcorpan> should css shapes affect hit testing?
  58. # [15:21] <astearns> zcorpan: as specified, no
  59. # [15:21] <astearns> masking used to have a note that it might affect hit testing in a future level, but that was removed
  60. # [15:21] <zcorpan> astearns: is that intentional?
  61. # [15:22] <zcorpan> ok
  62. # [15:22] <astearns> I think it's intentional in the sense of, "Oh god, please don't make me think about hit testing"
  63. # [15:24] <zcorpan> k
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  87. # [19:51] <Florian> dbaron: I've made a bikeshed conversion of css-conditional. Interested?
  88. # [19:51] <Florian> https://github.com/frivoal/csswg-drafts/compare/master...frivoal:florian/css-conditional-bikeshed
  89. # [19:51] <dbaron> Florian, if you've checked that it's the same (modulo additional links), and checked that anchors/ids aren't changing, sounds good
  90. # [19:54] <Florian> There were only a handful of ambiguities, easily resolved. I'll check the results again, but we should be good.
  91. # [19:54] <Florian> There's one thing I wasn't sure about: this section looks mostly like boilerplate, but it isn't part of what bikeshed produces, so currently I haven't included it. Should I bring it back? http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-conditional/#base-modules
  92. # [19:54] <Florian> or should I rather put a feature request on bikeshed to generate this
  93. # [19:54] <Florian> (or should we ignore it)
  94. # [19:58] <Florian> also moved this http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-conditional/#grammar into the "modules interaction" section, since otherwise it no longer really has a good place to be in. But I can move it back to the bottom if you prefer
  95. # [19:58] <Florian> other than that, should be no change
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  99. # [20:15] <TabAtkins> florian2: Use hyphens. The underscore convention is just used in the Lex-style grammars, which we don't use.
  100. # [20:16] <TabAtkins> Florian: That's not part of our standard conformance boilerplate. Since no other spec uses it, should be fine to remove.
  101. # [20:16] <TabAtkins> Our specs should be consistent in boilerplate - either all have something, or none.
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  108. # [20:50] <Florian> TabAtkins: with regards to boilerplate, I agree, that's why I left it out. But as I didn't know whether this was leftover from previous boilerplate, or something intentionally added, I prefer to ask.
  109. # [20:51] <TabAtkins> It was never in the boilerplate module, as that's what I copied Bikeshed's CSSWG boilerplate from.
  110. # [20:52] <Florian> so someone, presumably dbaron, put it there. I'll leave it out until someone claims for it, and then we can see if this should be added to all specs
  111. # [20:53] <Florian> TabAtkins: hyphens vs underscores, I was asking because css-conditional uses underscores: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-conditional/#supports_rule
  112. # [20:53] <TabAtkins> Yeah, because it's using the Lex-style grammar, which we don't use anymore, like I said. ^_^