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  1. # Session Start: Fri May 22 00:00:01 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  5. # [00:16] <dholbert> TabAtkins / fantasai: hi! I read the meeting notes from earlier this week about % margins/padding on flex & grid items -- sounds like we're sticking with the spec as-is there, which is cool. Question though:
  6. # [00:17] <dholbert> Do *abspos* children of a flex/grid container get the new (symmetric) %-resolution behavior, or do they get the older block-style behavior?
  7. # [00:18] <dholbert> IIUC, they're currently specced as not being flex/grid-items and hence not getting the New Vertical Percent Hotness
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  9. # [00:19] <dholbert> (mats asked about this last Monday, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015May/0154.html , but I imagine you might have been waiting on this week's CSSWG discussion on margin/padding before giving a definitive answer)
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  15. # [01:15] <TabAtkins> dholbert: They're still blocks, so I imagine they keep acting like blocks.
  16. # [01:15] <TabAtkins> (I'm in the process of traveling right now tho, and so haven't given this much thought.)
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  25. # [02:43] <shane> TabAtkins: so I thought the point was that we were making flex and grid islands of sanity in the sea of CSS? Wouldn't having divergent resolution behavior depending on whether you're abspos or not go against that?
  26. # [02:44] <TabAtkins> shane: no idea lol
  27. # [02:45] <TabAtkins> It's also weird to have abspos change behavior based on which ancestor it *happens* to be positioned to.
  28. # [02:46] <TabAtkins> I wish I'd thought of this craziness on Tuesday.
  29. # [02:46] <TabAtkins> Would have made a stronger argument for block behavior.
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  38. # [04:42] <astearns> TabAtkins: doesn't abspos *already* change behavior based on what ancestor it's positioned to?
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  51. # [09:06] <TabAtkins> astearns: Not really. We calculate static position differently, and if it's positioned to a grid you can adjust your containing block accordingly, but we don't have layout of the element itself change in any way.
  52. # [09:08] <TabAtkins> astearns: Not really. We calculate static position differently, and if it's positioned to a grid you can adjust your containing block accordingly, but we don't have layout of the element itself change in any way.
  53. # [09:10] <TabAtkins> Which positioning root you use rightly only affects your position.
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  95. # [23:08] <TabAtkins> plinss: For no reason I can ascertain, Bikeshed reports that Web Animations is defining the 'transform' property 3 different times, none of which make any sense.
  96. # [23:09] <TabAtkins> WebAnim is a Bikeshedded spec; are you accidentally using your inference-based parser on it, and it's being weird?
  97. # [23:09] <TabAtkins> plinss: Ah, never mind, it's the TR version only, which is still ReSpec.
  98. # [23:10] <TabAtkins> plinss: So I'll just deal until they repub.
  99. # [23:11] <shane> hey so as a metapoint, it'd be nice if we had some public signal about how much better for the specification ecosystem using bikeshed is. I know people who are reluctant about moving to bikeshed but I think statements to this effect would really help convince them.
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