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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jun 25 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  5. # [00:05] <@liam> SimonSapin, but that's JS, not CSS
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  9. # [00:22] <fantasai> I think requiring quotes around unicode-range is less weird than most of the other options presented here...
  10. # [00:22] <fantasai> doesn't solve back-compat, though
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  13. # [00:26] <SimonSapin> agreed, and agreed
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  21. # [01:10] <TabAtkins> Strings or idents, either work for me, they're functionally equivalent. Strings just let us retain the "+" in the syntax.
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  24. # [01:17] <TabAtkins> I suppose it's easier to explain "put it in strings, or you might get weird behavior", since font names have the same problem.
  25. # [01:25] <SimonSapin> right
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  53. # [12:12] <Florian> the fact that bikeshed doesn't know about definitions from CSS21 is really annoying when it generates the bibliography
  54. # [12:12] <Florian> It's making lots of normative references to unstable level 3 or 4 documents when there's a perfectly good def in 2.1
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  56. # [12:13] <Florian> which is annoying when trying to do a CR
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  58. # [12:14] <Florian> Is there an easy workaround for that?
  59. # [12:18] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  60. # [12:18] <Florian> I'm working it out using <pre class="anchors">
  61. # [12:18] <Ms2ger> Republish those parts of CSS2.1 as CSS3 modules, and pushing them to Rec immediately
  62. # [12:19] <Florian> That sounds like more work than what I had in mind, at least in the short term.
  63. # [12:19] <Florian> Can argue it isn't the write thing to do though.
  64. # [12:19] <Florian> s/write/right/
  65. # [12:20] <Ms2ger> It's maybe a day of work and ten minutes of conf call time
  66. # [12:22] <Florian> Not convinced. Looks like it takes more time than that to republish CSS2.x as it is, without having to convert preprocessor formats, bikeshed the name of the parts, or figure out which parts have already been superseded by something else.
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  83. # [16:22] <TabAtkins> Florian: 2.1 is annoying and I hate it.
  84. # [16:22] <Florian> :)
  85. # [16:22] <Florian> <pre class="anchors"> worked for me.
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  118. # [19:25] <TabAtkins> plinss: I just switched Bikeshed's syntax highlighting to Pygments, so that'll require an install on the server.
  119. # [19:25] <TabAtkins> plinss: Just `sudo pip install pygments`.
  120. # [19:26] <plinss> ok
  121. # [19:27] <TabAtkins> Heh, and the server just started complaining about it for every spec. ^_^
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  156. # [22:58] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: plz don't run pip with sudo ;_;
  157. # [22:59] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: You... have to? Or else it fails?
  158. # [22:59] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: yay running arbitrary code as root ;_;
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  160. # [23:00] <@liam> it's easier just to make the python interpreter suid root.
  161. # [23:00] <@liam> :)
  162. # [23:00] <Ms2ger> You're fired :)
  163. # [23:01] * @liam grins, can't, I've locked the personnel table in the database.
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  172. # [23:29] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: Do you have any alternate suggestions for how to install packages without sudo?
  173. # [23:31] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: pip --user, or virtualenv. in general dealing with the global install is… fraught, esp. because you're then interfering with another package manager (that which installed Python)
  174. # [23:32] <TabAtkins> I wonder how usable that is in other OSes.
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  176. # [23:49] <gsnedders> What other OSes? Windows?
  177. # [23:49] <@liam> there are virtualenv ports for Windows
  178. # [23:49] <gsnedders> I have no idea how well pip --user works on Windows. AFAIK virtualenv works fine, but I haven't touched it in a while.
  179. # [23:50] <gsnedders> "it" being Python on Windows.
  180. # [23:50] <gsnedders> (BTW, if anyone knows any good Python CI things that include Windows, let me know!)
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