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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jul 21 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:00] <fantasai> SimonSapin: css3-images doesn't actually replace anything in CSS2.1 Ch 10
  4. # [00:01] <fantasai> SimonSapin: Those rules are rather more complex than what the default sizing rules can capture
  5. # [00:07] <fantasai> SimonSapin: Also, you probably want to warn people against using Ch7 of Lists
  6. # [00:16] <SimonSapin> fantasai: Is this re https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Relevant-spec-links#css-2 ?
  7. # [00:16] <fantasai> SimonSapin: yeah
  8. # [00:16] <fantasai> sorry, should've pasted the link
  9. # [00:18] <SimonSapin> re css3-images, that’s unfortunate but ok
  10. # [00:18] <fantasai> SimonSapin: it's life with min/max properties
  11. # [00:21] <SimonSapin> updated
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  13. # [01:10] <TabAtkins> plinss: For some reason, at least some specs on TR are outputting empty values in their "for" lists.
  14. # [01:10] <TabAtkins> plinss: Check http://api.csswg.org/shepherd/spec/?spec=css-align-3&anchors for the first occurrence of "auto", for example.
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  29. # [03:50] <fantasai> plinss: Is dev.w3.org supposed to issue a 302 redirect to drafts.csswg.org ?
  30. # [03:51] <fantasai> plinss: because that's what's happening now
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  51. # [09:04] <SimonSapin> fantasai: MikeSmith did that at my suggestion, after he asked me to stop using dev.w3.org and use drafts.csswg.org instead
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  53. # [09:05] <SimonSapin> I don’t care which one it is, but I prefer only having one URL per thing
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  58. # [10:47] <plinss> fantasai: SimonSapin: yeah, I’m not really happy about the redirect from dev.w3.org, I’d rather keep our specs at a w3.org URL
  59. # [10:48] <plinss> not sure why we’re not supposed to use dev.w3.org anymore?
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  62. # [10:49] <SimonSapin> plinss: I don’t know, talk to MikeSmith
  63. # [10:49] <plinss> will do
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  68. # [12:18] <glazou> hey leaverou you’re in Greece now ?
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  70. # [12:28] <glazou> dauwhe: LOL (re. your last tweet)
  71. # [12:28] <Ms2ger> Wrong question, clearly
  72. # [12:29] <glazou> Ms2ger: or the connectivity is flaky on that sunny beach
  73. # [12:29] <dauwhe> glazou: I don't know what to say :)
  74. # [12:29] <glazou> dauwhe: eheh
  75. # [12:30] <dauwhe> glazou: sgalineau is going to enjoy this!
  76. # [12:30] <glazou> historically, Napoleon had a few issues with all islands :-)
  77. # [12:30] <dauwhe> glazou: LOL
  78. # [12:33] <Ms2ger> Must think of a witty expansion for "GCPM"...
  79. # [12:33] <dauwhe> glazou: I'll email you about epub zero some time in the next few weeks. It's coming back to life.
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  81. # [13:27] <glazou> dauwhe: ok, np
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  85. # [14:44] <SimonSapin> fantasai: Should https://drafts.csswg.org/css-2015/#unstable include "a feature does not have a specification" ?
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  111. # [20:38] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: If it doesn't have a spec, its spec hasn't reached CR, so it already does.
  112. # [20:39] <SimonSapin> meh
  113. # [20:42] <TabAtkins> Why you hate degenerate cases so bad?
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  115. # [20:44] <SimonSapin> isn’t reviewing specs all about finding them?
  116. # [20:45] <SimonSapin> http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/121697381917/one-of-the-reasons-standardization-takes-a-while
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  125. # [21:34] <dbaron> fantasai, if I have edits to css-logical-props to explain the logical properties better (since people seemed to want that at the telecon given that we were shipping them), should I use a pull request, or some other mechanism for review?
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  127. # [21:44] <TabAtkins> fantasai says to just check it in
  128. # [21:45] <TabAtkins> dbaron: ^^^
  129. # [21:45] <dbaron> TabAtkins, fantasai, ok, will do
  130. # [21:54] <dbaron> TabAtkins, fantasai, https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/rev/48c8aaabe535
  131. # [21:57] <dbaron> SimonSapin, ^
  132. # [21:57] <dbaron> (since I think it was Simon who raised the issue originally)
  133. # [21:57] <SimonSapin> thanks
  134. # [22:13] <TabAtkins> plinss: Spec generator is wedged, I think. (That's what's indicated by a big list of shell processes, right?)
  135. # [22:14] <plinss> looking
  136. # [22:14] <plinss> TabAtkins: yeah, bikeshed crashed during an update, I’ve been seeing a few of these lately
  137. # [22:15] <TabAtkins> My fault?
  138. # [22:15] <plinss> (the orange line is a crashed process)
  139. # [22:15] <plinss> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  140. # [22:15] <plinss> probably
  141. # [22:16] <TabAtkins> Any way to get the stack trace from it? Does it write to stderr or something?
  142. # [22:16] <plinss> I have a todo item to be more tolerant of bikeshed update crahses (as in log them, send an email, and move on, instead of holding up other processes)
  143. # [22:16] <plinss> yeah, I’ll email a log dump
  144. # [22:16] <TabAtkins> cool, thanks
  145. # [22:20] <plinss> TabAtkins: actually, looks like this one was my fault, updated the db server (security paatch) while a process was running
  146. # [22:20] <TabAtkins> Ah, heh.
  147. # [22:20] <plinss> but I’ll dig through the logs for the others Ive seen
  148. # [22:20] <TabAtkins> I know there was some a week or two ago, but I think they're fixed.
  149. # [22:21] <TabAtkins> At least, I haven't locally crashed during an update.
  150. # [22:21] <plinss> ok, that was probably what I saw
  151. # [22:22] <plinss> I still need to make my code more tolerant, if bikeshed crashes during a regen we get a nice email and it moves on, need to do the same for updates
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