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  1. # Session Start: Tue Aug 11 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  5. # [00:37] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: sorry, put what where? @supports stuff in CSS2?
  6. # [00:46] <SimonSapin> my point is that we want two different grammar productions: one for @supports HERE {} and one for @import "" supports(HERE);
  7. # [00:46] <SimonSapin> if their name only differ by dash vs underscore, this could be confusing
  8. # [01:03] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: I mean that Conditional, for reasons, still uses the Appendix G-based grammar definitions. We'll replace those eventually, because they're obsolete. So if we need to make a name longer, make it the one in the Appendix G style.
  9. # [01:05] <SimonSapin> ah, yeah that’s fine
  10. # [01:06] <SimonSapin> thinking about it more, @supports display: flex {} without parens wouldn’t be terrible.
  11. # [01:22] <TabAtkins> UNTIL WE SUPPORT {} IN PROPERTY NAMES
  12. # [01:23] <TabAtkins> .foo { flex: {grow: 1; shrink: 0; basis: 100px}; }
  13. # [01:34] <SimonSapin> good point
  14. # [01:34] <SimonSapin> so we do need two grammar terms
  15. # [01:34] <SimonSapin> and names for them :)
  16. # [02:06] <plinss> TabAtkins: I’d like to change the file extension for issue list source files in the repo that are in bikeshed format (to differentiate them for auto-generating on the server)
  17. # [02:07] <TabAtkins> issues-[^-]+-\d+.txt not enough?
  18. # [02:07] <plinss> it conflicts with a bunch of other files that bikeshed pukes on
  19. # [02:09] <plinss> e.g. https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/file/tip/css-page/issues-2.txt
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  21. # [02:12] <plinss> (better example: https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/file/tip/css-backgrounds/issues-lc-2009.txt )
  22. # [02:15] <astearns> perhaps .bs-issues?
  23. # [02:17] <TabAtkins> That latter one is *almost* right, just needs a minor fixup. We can just fix the few files the regex breaks on.
  24. # [02:17] <TabAtkins> (Rather, that the regex catches, and Bikeshed doesn't parse.)
  25. # [02:23] <plinss> TabAtkins: having something other than .txt will also help the server to not find the .txt version for urls that don’t have file extensions specified (which will help me do the right thing with the drafts app)
  26. # [02:25] <TabAtkins> Ok, sure. I'm not against a new file extension. ^_^
  27. # [02:25] <TabAtkins> .bs-issues works for me.
  28. # [02:34] <plinss> TakAtkins: k, you’ll only need to use it if you want the server to auto-generate the issues list anyway
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  80. # [23:22] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Miscellaneous questions on your selectors edits...
  81. # [23:22] <fantasai> TabAtkins: https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/diff/fee1a23055aa/selectors/Overview.src.html
  82. # [23:23] <fantasai> Why remove "and XML" from that paragraph?
  83. # [23:23] <fantasai> TabAtkins: https://hg.csswg.org/drafts/diff/54e0b5b220da/selectors/Overview.src.html
  84. # [23:23] <TabAtkins> Unnecessary to mention XML, and it has an InfoSet, not a DOM.
  85. # [23:24] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Is it alright if we made "scope" a local definition?
  86. # [23:24] <TabAtkins> Yes.
  87. # [23:35] <liam> wait, no dropping XML!
  88. # [23:35] <liam> there's an XML DOM
  89. # [23:37] <liam> (strictly speaking the xml information set is a glossary and not a data model; the XPath and XQuery Data Model (XDM) is one possible data model for XML but not the only one)
  90. # [23:39] <TabAtkins> liam: Selectors is defined over a DOM; any language that can produce one can host Selectors. This is just defining the HTML default.
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  92. # [23:53] <fantasai> TabAtkins: We also need to define the XML default, 'because we're responsible for making CSS work on XML, too.
  93. # [23:54] <TabAtkins> Feel free to add it back; I was just removing a lot of our unnecessary references to XML (because in practice ~all of the people using Selectors are using it on HTML).
  94. # Session Close: Wed Aug 12 00:00:00 2015

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