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# [00:00] <@njn> dbaron: I'm trying to exercise all the functionality in order to understand if DMD can completely supplant it; https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8153621 has my results so far
# [00:00] <@njn> dbaron: I've tried every documented tool, and couldn't get any of them to work
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# [00:02] <@njn> dbaron: I tried both |tools/trace-malloc/diffbloatdump.pl < sl.log > dbd| and |tools/trace-malloc/diffbloatdump.pl sl2.log > dbd|
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# [00:02] <@njn> dbaron: they both give the same error, though the latter takes a few seconds before doing so
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# [00:11] <Waldo> there are better window managers
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# [00:11] <Waldo> but death to Perl scripts nonetheless
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# [00:13] <@njn> dbaron: for bug 1113069, how should the refcounting be done? nsISupports? or is there a better way for a type like that?
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# [00:17] <&dbaron> njn, diffbloatdump.pl takes two logs (the memory dump format, not the malloc log)
# [00:18] <@njn> dbaron: ah, thanks
# [00:18] <&dbaron> njn, and don't introduce nsISupports where it's not needed; NS_INLINE_DECL_REFCOUNTING should do
# [00:18] <@njn> dbaron: ok!
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# [00:23] <@njn> dbaron: yeah, DMD can do diffs very similar to that
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# [03:48] <philor> odd, the desktop COPPA check for sync has 2007 as its most recent possible birth year
# [03:49] <philor> which might make sense if it was created in 2007 and unchanged since, but that seems too long ago
# [03:53] <philor> and Android, which unlike desktop is actually in-tree, chooses 5 years before the current year, so we have "you must be 8 to choose and be refused," "you must be 5 to choose and be refused" and "you must be within 3 years of being born"
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# [04:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e7c220d7f827 - Richard Newman - Bug 1116872 - Don't crash on startup when CastDevice.getFromBundle returns null. r=mfinkle
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# [05:07] <Lewoco> How do I make "./mach build" print out the command line when it compiles things?
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# [05:12] <arai> Lewoco: -v option will help
# [05:12] <Lewoco> arai, I tried that but it didn't seem to make much difference...
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# [05:13] <Lewoco> arai, I'd actually like to see the command line (e.g. gcc -DFoo my.cpp -o my.o).
# [05:13] <arai> hm, I see the command line like "/usr/bin/clang++ ..."
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# [05:14] <arai> only when -v option added
# [05:14] <arai> maybe there are some differences in other options
# [05:14] <Lewoco> arai, I'm using sources from August 2014. Maybe it changed...
# [05:14] <Lewoco> ?
# [05:15] <arai> not sure :/
# [05:19] <arai> I get the command line output when running "./mach build -v", but don't see with "./mach -v build"
# [05:19] <Lewoco> arai, Yes! Thank you. That was my problem =/
# [05:20] <arai> you're welcome :)
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# [06:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=305b1834db85 - 12 changesets
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# [06:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d05292b21819 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117026 - Cherry-pick commit a10742c of upstream skia code; r=upstream
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# [06:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78930b6efe65 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backout changeset 3cc992814a7e (bug 882779) because it is no longer needed
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# [07:27] <jason_> hi - .... loooong time firefox user here... C++ developer mainly (I dabble in lots of things). So the thing is I have about 400 tabs open and the browser is horribly slow when you start getting a modest number of them opened.
# [07:27] <jason_> let me define slow
# [07:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f0c081ab5858 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 1110009 - Show a warning icon in the legacy-Sync-to-FxA migration menu panel items. r=markh
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# [07:29] <jason_> often when creating a new tab or going to something like youtube where parts of the site are loading very dynamically (comments) it is an absolute pain partially stalling between 5-30 seconds - it's not dead or completely locked up but its obviously doing alot of churning
# [07:29] <jason_> looking at all the threads it has opened, it seems like only the main thread is doing any work
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# [07:30] <jason_> so I profile it under codexl and I see that during these stallish sessions, it looks like the javascript GC is accounting 60 to maybe 80% of the cpu time the process group is using
# [07:31] <jason_> I'm not really sure if the GC is to blame or not but it doesn't seem unreasonable with what some people have written about it over the last couple of years
# [07:33] <jason_> I've tried digging deeper on what's happening but I'm not really sure how to figure out wtf ff is churning on. I assume either a couple of bad scripts or just too many scripts active is the cause for triggering GCs or maybe i need to tune it somehow but really I don't even know if that's the problem. Any ideas on tracking down why my ff performance is bad these days?
# [07:33] <jason_> afaik I need something that will help me scope in on problematic areas from the top down which is why I went at it from CodeXL (profiler)
# [07:37] <jason_> I've tried over the last couple of months disabling all extensions and bisecting them to see if I could find any single one to out... I do have a few extensions (13) installed but none of them seemed to affect this timing. Been suffering from this for a good year or more.
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# [07:39] <jason_> I came to the developer channel despite this being a "my browser is slow" problem because i wanted to really find the culprit and for doing that I need to better understand how to look underneith the hood at what's taxing ff
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# [07:42] <jason_> how would I distinguish if its the overhead of 400 sites vs 3 bad ones javascripts in a sane and efficient way?
# [07:42] <jason_> *s/sites/tabs/
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# [07:52] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> good morning
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# [08:19] <roc> jason_: about:memory will show you which pages have big heaps
# [08:19] <roc> if there's one page that's dominating memory usage, try closing it and see if that helps
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# [08:41] <jason_> roc: I found that a few minutes before you mentioned on a thread on reddit... gmail is the top but closing it doesn't seem to fix the issue. If it is indeed gcing very frequently perhaps something is creating objects frequently and unreffing them so it might not show up high on consumption?
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# [08:43] <jason_> I'm on a 32GiB (no swap) system, ff is about 1.5GiB res and without me using it it is going between 30-60% cpu of my 3.5ghz xeon (last years models)
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# [09:06] <roc> yeahhmm
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# [09:06] <roc> ah I know
# [09:06] <roc> install the Gecko Profiler (SPS) extension and grab a profile with that
# [09:06] <roc> that will include JS stacks in the profile
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# [09:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d162be56842 - Ekanan Ketunuti - Bug 682726 - Add men's to the en-US dictionary. r=ehsan
# [09:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a796409d3538 - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 1114360 - Update libpng to version 1.6.16. r=jmuizelaar
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# [09:22] <darktrojan> " WindowsError: [Error 5] Access is denied "
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# [09:31] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> darktrojan: thats usually a slave problem
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# [09:32] <darktrojan> Tomcat|sheriffduty, there's at least 4 of them on c-c, winxp debug xpcshell
# [09:32] <darktrojan> different machines
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# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/381e48ab4396 - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 1000993 - Allows WebIDE to run commands before pushing apps. r=jryans
# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0253e47deae7 - Tom Tromey - Bug 1104213 - add stack traces to timeline markers. r=smaug r=vporof
# [09:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/858f0c4f4bdf - Richard Marti - Bug 1114344 - Add background-clip: content-box to the #dialogBox on in-content dialogs. r=jaws
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# [09:40] <darktrojan> bleh
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# [09:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> heh
# [09:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> darktrojan: winxp debug xpc seems perma orange somehow
# [09:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> there
# [09:41] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> on c-c-
# [09:41] <darktrojan> yes, along with a lot of other things
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# [12:41] <xidorn> is there any place we define DrawText as something like DrawTextW?
# [12:42] <xidorn> it causes a strange compile error in nsTextFrame when i add a new file to the unified source list
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# [12:46] <Ms2ger> xidorn, I'll bet you windows.h does that
# [12:47] <Ms2ger> xidorn, for a quick fix, put your new file in SOURCES rather than UNIFIED_SOURCES
# [12:48] <Ms2ger> Or come and work on Servo, Rust isn't quite as stupid
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# [12:49] <xidorn> Ms2ger: that's an interesting advice
# [12:49] <xidorn> Ms2ger: i guess we'd better rename our DrawText functions so that it won't conflict with the stupid windows headers...
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# [12:52] <Ms2ger> xidorn, if that was the only one... windows.h stomps on a lot of perfectly good names :/
# [12:52] <xidorn> Ms2ger: ah...
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# [13:07] <jason_> roc: been having limited success with that plugin... at the moment I can't get it to collect samples though it was earlier
# [13:09] <xidorn> Ms2ger: i guess we can define a defensive header which includes windows.h and undef those names. then we can include it at the very beginning of affected files so that they won't be polluted...
# [13:09] <jason_> even when it was while i was having the problem, even if starting it before going to youtube links (which illistrate the slowness in a painful way - html5 video btw) it seems to miss all of the time that it's being slow
# [13:09] <jason_> like literally no sampling during that time
# [13:09] <Ms2ger> xidorn, I've considered that :)
# [13:09] <jason_> as such the only things I see is an infrequent GC and most of the time being spent in timer/poll_nocancel
# [13:10] <Ms2ger> I don't work on Win, though, so I'm staying away from it
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# [13:11] <tbsaunde> yeah, adhoc undefines are much simpler in the short run
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# [13:24] <nbp> is there a way to edit bugzilla comments?
# [13:25] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nbp: after posting, don't think so
# [13:25] <nbp> I am tired of noticing typos after sending my comments. :(
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# [13:43] <TheOne> nbp: use a spellchecker add-on :)
# [13:43] <TheOne> you might not even need an add-on
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# [13:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> my first merge in 2015 :)
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# [13:56] <nbp> TheOne: grammar issues :/
# [13:57] <nbp> TheOne: I don't think our spell checker handles any grammar checking.
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# [13:58] <TheOne> ah
# [13:58] <TheOne> nbp: time for a patch, then :)
# [13:59] <nbp> TheOne: I am probably not the right person :P
# [14:00] <TheOne> was that the best excuse you could come up with? :P
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# [16:34] <@ehsan> I think I do!
# [16:34] <@ehsan> way to start a year \o/
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# [17:25] <BenWa> ehsan: I guess no one is watching the tree. B2G Desktop Linux has been busted for days
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# [17:26] <BenWa> Are those just being ignored?
# [17:27] <kats> BenWa: busted how?
# [17:27] <kats> BenWa: are you looking at tbpl or treeherder?
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# [17:27] <BenWa> Treeherder
# [17:27] <BenWa> err I was look through TBPL
# [17:27] <kats> stuff doesn't get starred/hidden on tbpl anymore
# [17:28] <BenWa> ic
# [17:28] <kats> it's fine on treeherder
# [17:28] <BenWa> ok
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# [18:06] <_AtilA_> There's no way to launch a try job with a sources.xml pointing to an external repository, true?
# [18:06] <_AtilA_> I need to patch bionic, and wanted to test it via try-server
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# [18:07] <_AtilA_> :(
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# [19:04] <jonco> edmorley: do you know who's sheriffing at the moment?
# [19:05] <edmorley> jonco: I don't think anyone is, or at least there is no one with |sheriffduty on their nick
# [19:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8a9910d1105b - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1107588 - Use an xhr to download reader mode content instead of creating new browser elements. r=mfinkle
# [19:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/9198ef9c7df6 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1116231 - Move reader.parse-on-load. pref change observer back to Reader.js. r=bnicholson
# [19:06] <jonco> edmorley: alright cheers
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# [19:08] <jonco> edmorley: I'm going to push a fix for the tests I just broke
# [19:08] <edmorley> jonco: cool ty
# [19:08] <jonco> edmorley: inbound is looking a bit busted though
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# [19:17] <cpeterson> BenWa: I posted a fix (bug 1117155) for the non-unified build bustage from your bug 1112332 :)
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# [19:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> cpeterson: just backed out 1112332 :)
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# [19:42] <BenWa> cpeterson: Thanks. Maybe I should just fold it into my patch now that’s it’s been backed out
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# [21:49] <nemo> [Yahoo Logo] Will be right back... Thank you for your patience. Our engineers are working quickly to resolve the issue.
# [21:49] <nemo> heh. firefox overloading yahoo? ☺
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# [22:01] <Callek> nemo: yea, I had my fiance's father call me (we're leaving to visit tonight) asking if I was going to be late because theres an issue with Mozilla
# [22:01] <kats> nemo: you should tell kevin needham, he wanted to know about when that happened
# [22:02] <Callek> yea, he doesn't quite get the distinction, only knows I am responsible if "something" breaks with us
# [22:02] <Callek> kats: nemo: its also been remarkably slow for me today whenever I search on it
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# [22:02] <kats> yeah really slow for me too right now
# [22:02] <Callek> kats: my fiance's father can't "load any website" I'm told.... but probably means yahoo is just not responding
# [22:03] <kats> Callek: i wonder if this is a general yahoo problem or specific to search
# [22:03] <kats> ca.yahoo.com seems to be loading
# [22:04] <Callek> yea, no idea honestly
# [22:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> bing and related services went down for like 20 minutes earlier
# [22:04] <Callek> KWierso|sheriffduty: maybe its bing-related then
# [22:04] <KWierso|sheriffduty> so anything pulling from bing (yahoo, siri, etc) could probably break
# [22:04] <Callek> either way, *someone* should e-mail kev
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# [22:05] <nemo> Callek: yeah. was ridiculously slow, so I switched to google
# [22:05] <nemo> Callek: I eventually checked back on the yahoo tab, and that's what it was displaying
# [22:05] <nemo> but even before that, it was taking a long time for responses
# [22:06] <nemo> kats: no idea who kevin needham is ☺
# [22:06] <kats> i'm emailing him now
# [22:06] <nemo> Callek: quite likely. bet many people have the reflex of finding websites by typing stuff into search
# [22:06] <nemo> I know my boss loves to do that
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# [22:07] <nemo> hm. I should check to see if their unit conversions are still broken
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# [22:07] <nemo> once I get a response ofc
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# [22:09] <dholbert> kats, I can repro yahoo search slowness too (from sf bay area), fwiw
# [22:09] <dholbert> (searching from searchbar)
# [22:10] <kats> dholbert: cool. i included a link to this irc conversation on logbot so if you dump additional info here presumably he'll see it
# [22:11] <@ehsan> kats: I can repro from Toronto as well
# [22:11] <dholbert> (I just got the "will be right back" page)
# [22:12] <kats> ditto
# [22:12] <dholbert> I get slowness when just visiting https://search.yahoo.com/ directly, too.
# [22:13] <dholbert> and when running curl -vvv https://search.yahoo.com
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# [22:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3cf774a0954d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 1065536, part 3 - Explicitly shut down the CompositorChild in the child process. r=nical
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# [22:19] <kats> kev said that "Bing experienced an outage about 90 minutes ago, and has since recovered. Yahoo, which relies on Bing, hasn't.
# [22:19] <kats> We're waiting on updates from Y right now."
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# [22:28] <nemo> kats: this sort of thing is not good for yahoo. I bet their only hope is to maintain firefox users out of apathy - people too lazy to switch their search
# [22:28] <nemo> kats: not good for firefox either ofc
# [22:29] <nemo> but I mean... if search stays broken for any significant amount of time, I'm inclined to just switch my engine
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# [22:29] <nemo> and why would I switch back
# [22:30] <sfink> maybe we should request a fast and clear failure response, and have searches failover automatically
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# [22:31] <sfink> I didn't switch mostly just because I already had a keyword search for google, so it was no big deal to redo the search prefixed with "gg"
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# [22:31] <nemo> sfink: yeh. I use g for google, w for wikipedia already, d for duck duck go...
# [22:32] <BenWa> If I have an element how do I position it so that it isn’t clipped by the parent -even- if the parent causes a stacking context?
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# [22:35] <nemo> BenWa: huh. a positioned child? got a demo on htmlpad or webdevout or something?
# [22:35] <nemo> I don't see what the prob is, but I guess your demo would make it obv
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# [22:35] <BenWa> Not handy, it’s in a big app (cleopatra)
# [22:35] <nemo> ah..
# [22:35] <nemo> where in cleo?
# [22:35] <nemo> can hit that ☺
# [22:36] <BenWa> nemo: my element is deeply nested, where some parents have size and overflow: hidden. But I want my child (a tooltip) to ignore that clip and other effects (like opacity) is that possible?
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# [22:36] <nemo> ok. gotcha
# [22:37] <BenWa> I could just compute the clientOffset (and cause a nasty style flush) and overlay it at the right place on the screen but I’d rather keep it at the right place in the DOM
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# [22:37] <Archaeopteryx> BenWa: what's the structure of the DOM? can you use the :last-child pseudo class?
# [22:38] <BenWa> (debug visualization of the browser chrome) https://www.dropbox.com/s/a1b45ydroyzpfvq/Screenshot%202015-01-02%2016.38.18.png?dl=0
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# [22:38] <BenWa> the chrome layer has overflow: hidden but my tooltip is clipped by it
# [22:39] <bz> BenWa: position:fixed?
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# [22:39] * bz is not sure whether that works, though; would have to check.
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# [22:39] <bz> benwa: you really want to have something that's a child of viewport, but positioned relative to some other random box...
# [22:40] <nemo> bz: position: fixed no
# [22:40] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase401.xhtml experimenting
# [22:40] <nemo> bz: this is funny, but I think that deliberate chrome spec breakage might help here?
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# [22:41] <BenWa> bz: like query the positon of my element (and flush layout)? Also it means I can’t use CSS selectors to match on mouse over and useful relationship to the matched element
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# [22:41] <bz> BenWa: indeed....
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# [22:41] <BenWa> Well it’s not terrible if there’s no way, it’s just not ideal
# [22:41] <nemo> BenWa: I wonder if :after works
# [22:41] <nemo> BenWa: and hover would still work then. actually, hover would work w/ sibling too
# [22:41] <BenWa> Isn’t that just a selector, how does it prevent clipping?
# [22:42] <nemo> BenWa: dunno, never tried. checking now 😝
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# [22:42] <nemo> I mean, an :after created element
# [22:42] <nemo> isn't a child after all
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# [22:43] <bz> nemo: is too. ;)
# [22:43] <BenWa> ::after makes it a sibbling but the problem is the parent of my element has overflip: clip. Maybe I don’t understand
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# [22:44] <nemo> bz: yeah, you're right :-/
# [22:44] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase402.xhtml ← bz right
# [22:44] <nemo> hm
# [22:44] <BenWa> Alright, going to add it to the viewport instead. Thanks!
# [22:44] <nemo> heh
# [22:45] <nemo> and... come to think of it, the chrome thing wouldn't help at all. just had forgotten how it broke things
# [22:47] <Ms2ger> cpeterson++
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# [23:23] <redwood> why does document.mozSetImageElement exist? what does it let you do that you can't do without it?
# [23:25] <Ms2ger> redwood, if I recall correctly, it allows using #foo in CSS without the element actually having that ID
# [23:26] <redwood> ok
# [23:26] <Ms2ger> bz, can we make that chrome-only?
# [23:27] <Ms2ger> poiru, here?
# [23:28] <Archaeopteryx> implementation in bug 572688
# [23:29] <jcranmer|away> oh, msvc2015 has support for char16_t?
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# [23:36] <redwood> Ms2ger: so it adds a second level of indirection in setting the background? if element A has property -moz-element set on it pointing to element B, then mozSetImageElement can be used to make element B get its background from some other element C (frequently a canvas), such that element C's background would then be used on element A? does that sound right?
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# [23:37] <Ms2ger> redwood, I think C.mozSetImageElement("x", ...) just means -moz-element("#x") will get its image from C rather than B
# [23:37] <redwood> kk, thank you
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