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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 03 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  9. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab9cdbcd083d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117040 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in SVG DOM code; r=longsonr
  10. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d124760473c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1116880 - Pass in the referrer policy to the savePrivacyAwareURI() call in openInExternalEditor(); r=geekboy
  11. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e95f0d2fd23 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1116560 - Spell shutdown-persist properly in nsXREDirProvider::DoShutdown to make it greppable; r=bsmedberg
  12. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e9029d8a659 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1116558 - Remove the code to handle shutdown-cleanse from the RDF code; r=bsmedberg
  13. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e18f8c0cf429 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1116551 - Remove the code to handle shutdown-cleanse from the prefs service; r=bsmedberg
  14. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fcced3ba6d8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1113449 - Assert that nsCORSListenerProxy is properly initialized before it is used; r=sicking
  15. # [00:05] <@ehsan> bz: bug 1107592 broke non-unified builds, I think
  16. # [00:05] <@ehsan> bz: I'm fixing it, fwiw
  17. # [00:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f22e7b280329 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1107592 follow-up: Add a missing include for Optional to fix the non-unified build bustage
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  21. # [00:09] <bz> ehsan: thanks!
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  24. # [00:14] <darktrojan> how do I run xpcshell tests on c-c?
  25. # [00:14] <darktrojan> |mach xpcshell-test| complains that I don't have Firefox
  26. # [00:15] <jcranmer|away> darktrojan: make xpcshell-tests in the objdir
  27. # [00:17] <darktrojan> aha, that got me somewhere
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  29. # [00:17] <darktrojan> most of them failed, but it runs
  30. # [00:17] <jcranmer|away> I usually use TEST_PATH=mailnews
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  37. # [00:21] <bz> Anyone else having trouble loading wiki.mozilla.org stuff?
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  64. # [00:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/539768eaa7ba - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117037 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in accessible/; r=tbsaunde
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  100. # [01:24] <rstrong> bz: works for me
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  207. # [04:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/918ab351ea21 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 89c73451325e (bug 1116853) for devtools/chrome bustage
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  210. # [04:11] <philor> kats|away: does any of your APZ stuff depend on this APZ patch of BenWa's I'm about to back out?
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  216. # [04:27] <Silne30> Is angular a no-no when developing priviledged fxos apps?
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  226. # [04:48] <philor> if you're waiting for mozilla-inbound to reopen... don't
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  230. # [04:58] <nigelb> philor: that screwed up already?
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  232. # [05:00] <philor> nigelb: first we wait for enough build slaves not in a reboot-loop to get builds going on the tip, then we back out the patch that was clearly broken six hours ago, then we wait for a full set of b2g builds and tests on that backout to see whether or not there were unmarked dependencies landed on top of it in the intervening eight hours since it landed
  233. # [05:00] <philor> and I don't really know how much time or effort is involved in the fact that the build slaves we need will be running on regenerated AMIs, so dunno how long before we even start cleaning up
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  235. # [05:01] <nigelb> helllllooooo 2015
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  245. # [05:09] <bkero> nigelb: Hellllllooooo back
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  252. # [05:28] <nigelb> bkero: :)
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  262. # [05:52] <Waldo> philor: are we there yet?
  263. # [05:52] <Waldo> philor: are we there yet?
  264. # [05:52] * Waldo throws a tree-closed fit
  265. # [05:52] <Waldo> :-)
  266. # [05:52] <philor> Waldo: we haven't even gone to the dealship to buy the station wagon yet
  267. # [05:53] <philor> maybe we should buy it at a dealership, instead of waiting for a dealship from another planet to land, dunno
  268. # [05:55] <seth> dealship savings are OUT OF THIS WORLD
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  280. # [06:32] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2acfbc039a0 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 47683fccda29 (bug 1112332) for b2g reftest-6 failures
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  293. # [06:58] <philor> mmm, http://futurama.theautomatedtester.co.uk/
  294. # [06:58] <philor> 113 filed, 18 closed
  295. # [06:58] <philor> good luck with that New Year's resolution
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  313. # [07:22] <philor> oh, fun
  314. # [07:23] <philor> sfink: how did ehsan break rootanalysis, on linux64, with https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe2187ec388c?
  315. # [07:25] <philor> oh, hello coalescing
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  317. # [07:26] <philor> what I really meant was "which cset did bz use to break rootanalysis?
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  323. # [07:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/156a06b49da8 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 3 changesets (bug 1111142) for having a startling perf impact
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  344. # [08:17] <philor> bz: got an opinion, or should I take them both out and let try sort it out?
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  351. # [08:34] <seth> i really wish i could make xpcshell-test stop on the first error
  352. # [08:37] <seth> well, i guess my real goal is that it not pop up OS X's crash report dialog 6 times whenever something goes wrong
  353. # [08:39] <philor> here's a fun little state of affairs: because, I guess, they really enjoy weekend fuckups, releng deployed this morning, and so we cannot have crash stacks
  354. # [08:39] <philor> is that a tree-closer?
  355. # [08:40] <philor> deployed by and patched by someone on PTO for the next 12 days, because what could possibly go wrong?
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  360. # [08:54] <bz> philor: ping
  361. # [08:54] <philor> bz: pong
  362. # [08:55] <bz> philor: which "both" are we talking about here?
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  364. # [08:55] <philor> bz: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound&revision=039ae5be340a
  365. # [08:55] * bz looks
  366. # [08:55] <philor> linux64 SM(r)
  367. # [08:55] <bz> yep, looking
  368. # [08:56] <philor> but we're in an hours-long infra closure now, I was just queuing up backouts to push to try before going to bed, because there's pretty much zero chance of releng fixing mozharness tonight
  369. # [08:56] <bz> mmm
  370. # [08:57] <bz> So this is definitely these two changesets, or possibly also my earlier push?
  371. # [08:57] <KWierso|afk> philor: did you miss aurora in the closure?
  372. # [08:57] * bz tries to reproduce locally
  373. # [08:58] <KWierso|afk> bz: previous push has a green r
  374. # [08:58] <philor> KWierso|afk: apparently it doesn't make my list of "trees we care about" :)
  375. # [08:58] <bz> ok
  376. # [08:58] * bz looks at his
  377. # [08:58] <bz> er, this
  378. # [08:58] <bz> And of course it passes for me locally....
  379. # [08:59] <philor> I be willing to pretend we care about the b2g trees, but since I can't close them usefully, I don't
  380. # [08:59] <bz> So here's the problem
  381. # [08:59] <bz> Both of those changesets changed jit stuff
  382. # [08:59] <bz> The failing test is not running in the jit
  383. # [09:00] * bz retriggers
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  385. # [09:01] <KWierso|afk> bz: the following push has five orange r's, for what it's worth
  386. # [09:01] <philor> it's consistent, I did the retriggering on ehsan's push above you first, since he got your first build coalesced
  387. # [09:01] <bz> hrm
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  389. # [09:01] <KWierso|afk> I just clicked retry on your earlier push for shits n giggles
  390. # [09:01] <KWierso|afk> but that'll take an hour for results
  391. # [09:01] <bz> yeah
  392. # [09:01] <bz> So I have no clue
  393. # [09:01] <philor> if you want to fail locally, it might be --enable-exact-rooting --enable-gcgenerational --enable-threadsafe
  394. # [09:02] <bz> Neither of these changesets should have affected this test
  395. # [09:02] <bz> yeah
  396. # [09:02] * bz builds
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  398. # [09:02] <philor> not sure how many of the rest are just for fun, been a long time since I looked at shell build configs
  399. # [09:02] <bz> those three options should be default on trunk now, iirc
  400. # [09:03] <Ms2ger> And good morning to you :)
  401. # [09:03] <KWierso|afk> Ms2ger: bah humbug
  402. # [09:04] <KWierso|afk> bz/philor: I guess back both out and push separately to try?
  403. # [09:04] <bz> That's certainly doable
  404. # [09:04] <KWierso|afk> unless someone has a better idea
  405. # [09:04] <bz> What will be annoying is if we back them out but the orange doesn't disappear. ;)
  406. # [09:05] <KWierso|afk> that sounds like someone-tomorrow's problem :)
  407. # [09:05] <philor> also doable: "back out both separately on try, since we have hours before we'll open again"
  408. # [09:05] <bz> Anyway, I'm rebuilding locally with the config philor suggested above, just in case
  409. # [09:05] <philor> has the advantage of already being done, too
  410. # [09:05] <bz> philor: oh?
  411. # [09:05] <bz> philor: links?
  412. # [09:06] <philor> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=bb847e6159c2 and https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=4e35a11c6a38 but I didn't mean done in the sense of completed, only... done
  413. # [09:06] <Ms2ger> KWierso|afk, I'm pretty sure that's going to be someone-today
  414. # [09:07] <bz> sure
  415. # [09:07] <philor> I wouldn't necessarily count on it
  416. # [09:07] <bz> done as in pushed
  417. # [09:07] * bz appreciates that
  418. # [09:07] <bz> Still can't reproduce locally, btw, at least on Mac
  419. # [09:07] <KWierso|afk> Ms2ger: oh hey, we passed midnight
  420. # [09:08] <philor> done as in I wish I'd used the tbpl links, th's sloth about ingesting pushes really annoys me
  421. # [09:08] <bz> We passed something like 9am where ms2ger is
  422. # [09:08] <bz> But on a Saturday
  423. # [09:08] <Ms2ger> So that doesn't count :)
  424. # [09:09] <bz> philor: no builds starting, eh?
  425. # [09:09] <philor> not according to tbpl
  426. # [09:09] <bz> That's what I see too
  427. # [09:09] <bz> So my gut feeling is I should go to bed
  428. # [09:09] <bz> since it's 3am
  429. # [09:10] <philor> do eet
  430. # [09:10] <Ms2ger> Good night
  431. # [09:11] * Ms2ger rings the bell for the West coast too
  432. # [09:11] <KWierso|afk> For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.
  433. # [09:12] <philor> oh, ffs
  434. # [09:13] <philor> they are debug builds in the sense that --enable-debug is a debug build, but a debug build in the -b d sense is only a build whose name ends in the string "-debug"
  435. # [09:13] <Ms2ger> lalalalalalalalala can't hear you!
  436. # [09:13] <bz> lol
  437. # [09:14] <bz> you want me to push those again, or will you?
  438. # [09:14] <philor> I will
  439. # [09:14] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=14ec456477be
  440. # [09:15] * philor drums his fingers on the refresh button
  441. # [09:17] <philor> it's also possible that some fink changed the name but didn't change it on trychooser
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  443. # [09:18] <philor> nope, well, perhaps -b do
  444. # [09:20] <philor> and it's time for the nightly death of self-serve
  445. # [09:22] <philor> there we go, -b o indeed
  446. # [09:24] <philor> except sh-haz seems to be something different
  447. # [09:25] <philor> which means I have to push yet again, deploying the other fucking moronic magic, "touch js/src/ and include the magic phrase 'linux64' in your try syntax"
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  449. # [09:28] <philor> for about the thousandth time, I really don't think these builds qualify for visiblity
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  451. # [09:31] <philor> and, neato, that gives me three debug shell builds, though not the same three that run on inbound, so it's a good thing I only wanted one which it did in fact give me
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  453. # [09:34] <philor> so what I meant was https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c8b200214d6d and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4f5e60e24643
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  464. # [10:00] <philor> 10.8 debug Marionette typically runs around 250 of the 442 tests, crashes, fails to get a stack for the crash, and calls that a successful run
  465. # [10:01] <philor> today's switch to using a non-executable stackwalk binary caused it to instead think that every single test crashed, but to not treat those "crashes" and its failure to deal with them as fatal, so it began actually running all 442 tests
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  541. # [13:11] <tbr> moo
  542. # [13:11] <tbr> I'm trying to enable the remote debugging server on a gecko based browser
  543. # [13:12] <tbr> the about config options look ok, but the browser doesn't start to listen on the appointed TCP port
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  545. # [13:13] <tbr> I've noticed that recent firefox requires a "listen $portnumber" to start its debugger. I suspect this could be related. Is there a way to force start it in something that doesn't have a developer tool-bar?
  546. # [13:14] <darktrojan> tbr, Thunderbird does it, but that's about as much as I know on the subject
  547. # [13:14] <darktrojan> try #devtools
  548. # [13:14] <tbr> tnx
  549. # [13:14] <tbr> I actually looked at tbirds about:config but didn't notice anything :/
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  562. # [13:28] <NeilAway> so, if I want to XHR a 100MB json file, would it make any difference if I did it in a worker?
  563. # [13:31] <@smaug> NeilAway: well, at least the js garbage would be in the worker
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  568. # [13:43] <NeilAway> smaug: yeah, I want to process it, so that would be better
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  719. # [18:14] <osener> hi everyone
  720. # [18:14] <osener> how can I build Firefox Developer Edition myself?
  721. # [18:15] <osener> I'm trying to create a package for my distro but can't find a configure flag or a source release for 36.0a2
  722. # [18:16] <aleth> osener: Build Firefox, but use this repo https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora instead of mozilla-central (which would give you a nightly)
  723. # [18:17] <aleth> osener: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build if you need build instructions
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  725. # [18:17] <osener> will this build a developer edition version (with the theme and all)?
  726. # [18:18] <aleth> I think so, but I haven't tried building it myself.
  727. # [18:19] <osener> thank you!
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  730. # [18:20] <Delta706> is there a build of aurora every night?
  731. # [18:20] <aleth> Yes
  732. # [18:21] <Delta706> aleth: thanks
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  734. # [18:21] <dbaron_> So, I was borrowing a relative's phone, and in Firefox for Android, clicked "Always" instead of "Just Once" for what to do when downloading an APK file. How do I undo that "Always" so that the phone is back in the state I started in?
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  736. # [18:24] <ato> dbaron_: Through a horribly complicated process: Settings → Apps → locate Firefox → Clear Defaults.
  737. # [18:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da6a98c3a8d1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117263 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in graphics layers code; r=roc
  738. # [18:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d64b972dce2 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117262 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in docshell; r=bzbarsky
  739. # [18:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec9bd7c5e950 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117196 - Stop asserting |this| in AudioNodeStream; r=roc
  740. # [18:25] <dbaron_> ato, I want to undo just the one change, not clear all settings
  741. # [18:25] <ato> Then I'm as blank as you.
  742. # [18:26] <dbaron_> well, I hope the "Always" I tapped applies to just APK files and not some larger set of things
  743. # [18:27] <dbaron_> I *hate* settings that auto-remember but don't give a decent way to inspect and undo
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  746. # [18:27] <dbaron_> (I didn't even read the prompt; I just tapped one of the buttons out of habit, and then realized I'd tapped a button saying "Always")
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  753. # [18:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8468946a9c95 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117248 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in image/; r=jrmuizel
  754. # [18:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e43d79f82ab - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117265 - Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in IPC code; r=baku
  755. # [18:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c604d1910129 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1116669 - Wait for focus before running test_offlineNotification.html; r=dao
  756. # [18:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12eb2a10b584 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1117263 follow-up: Fix a build bustage in opt builds
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  778. # [19:22] <agupta> hi there, i wanted help with the bug that i had filed related to firefox
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  781. # [19:26] <Archaeopteryx> agupta: what bug is that?
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  783. # [19:27] <agupta> should i provide a link for the same?
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  787. # [19:27] <Archaeopteryx> yes, please
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  789. # [19:28] <agupta> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1116751
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  795. # [19:33] <Archaeopteryx> sadly, that's not a bug in which i can assist you
  796. # [19:35] <agupta> alright, but thank you very much for your time
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  811. # [20:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/1b43ff907fde - Kyle Machulis - Bug 1117252 - Re-enable settings mochitests that were disabled by bug 1113199; a=test-only
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  860. # [21:33] <KWierso|afk> philor: but how did your backout break ggc builds?
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  863. # [21:38] <philor> KWierso|afk: it'll take me a while to be able to discuss that without both swearing and using allcaps
  864. # [21:38] <philor> but as a starting point, consider whether or not ggc was orange in my try pushes of the backouts
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  866. # [21:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/9b2625c9dc23 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1072997 - Check for a disabled System Download Manager before trying to use it r=margaret a=sylvestre
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  868. # [21:46] <philor> oh, fuck me running, it does run on try, it's just still hidden on tbpl for some random historical reason
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  884. # [22:07] * seth reads some non-mozilla windows source code and is grateful we use mFoo instead of m_foo
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  886. # [22:09] <Ms2ger> I'm so happy Rust uses self.foo
  887. # [22:09] <seth> yeah, that's not bad either
  888. # [22:10] <seth> the fact that it's enforced by the language is actually pretty great. i wish C++/Java/C# worked that way
  889. # [22:16] <reuben> you can always do this->/this.
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  893. # [22:19] <seth> that's true
  894. # [22:19] <seth> but you still have those member variables dirtying up your scope
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  896. # [22:23] <Ms2ger> reuben, only if it's enforced consistently
  897. # [22:24] <reuben> Ms2ger, you mean our style guides aren't enforced consistently?! 😱
  898. # [22:24] <Ms2ger> Do you want to make me laugh or cry?
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  937. # [23:23] <jez> erm
  938. # [23:23] <jez> i mean the scrollback buffer is too small to hold all the output?
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