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# Session Start: Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2015
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <tromey> ehsan: yes?
# [00:00] <@ehsan> tromey: I'm hitting an autoconf2.13 issue, looking for help
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# [00:00] <@ehsan> tromey: you got a sec?
# [00:00] <tromey> sure
# [00:00] <gps> jesup: repos created with share are just like repos created by clone
# [00:00] <@ehsan> tromey: so the story is that I am trying to compile mozilla under linux with msvc running under wine
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# [00:00] <@ehsan> tromey: and msvc itself works
# [00:01] <gps> the fact that data is stored elsewhere should be invisible
# [00:01] * jesup thinks this would mean MUCH more storage needed on hg.mozilla.org/users
# [00:01] <tromey> ok...
# [00:01] <gps> storage is cheap
# [00:01] <@ehsan> tromey: but when configruing, the configure script tries to compile a conftest.c (which works), but it then looks for the conftest${ac_exeext} binary
# [00:01] <@ehsan> tromey: and ac_exeect is set to empty, but it should be set to exe
# [00:01] <jesup> I got IT people trying to delete all the user repos because they're too expensive.....
# [00:01] <rforbes> ehsan: so according ot the ASAN docs lsan is on by default.
# [00:01] <@ehsan> tromey: and autoconf doesn't accept a --target or some such :(
# [00:02] <rforbes> https://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/LeakSanitizer
# [00:02] <@ehsan> rforbes: could be that things changed since the last time I looked
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# [00:02] <gps> jesup: hg.mozilla.org is no longer out of IT's budget. it shouldn't be a problem any more.
# [00:02] <rforbes> but doesn't explain why it works for you and not me.
# [00:02] <jesup> and hitting me up because I have one (two?) full mozilla repos (mothballed copy of Alder we used for initial webrtc development)
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# [00:02] <gps> use bitbucket as an alternative
# [00:02] <@ehsan> rforbes: but I tried a normal build with clang-cl and there are codegen issues preventing the browser to work now anyway
# [00:02] <rforbes> did you make bugs for them yet?
# [00:02] <gps> jesup: what out for publishing repos
# [00:02] <@ehsan> rforbes: I don't know what the bugs are
# [00:03] <rforbes> ahh, ok. that is without asan?
# [00:03] <@ehsan> tromey: do you know how to get autoconf to know we're cross compiling?
# [00:03] <@ehsan> rforbes: correct
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# [00:03] <rforbes> ok. well, i am going to make a bug for this.
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# [00:03] <tromey> ehsan: one oddity so far is just looking at configure I don't see anything setting ac_exeext
# [00:03] <tromey> ehsan: normally you would pass --target and whatever else to configure, not autoconf
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# [00:04] <@ehsan> tromey: well, my configure sets is to empty
# [00:04] <@ehsan> like:
# [00:04] <@ehsan> ac_exeext=
# [00:04] <tromey> yeah, that's what I see too
# [00:04] <tromey> 1 se
# [00:04] <tromey> c
# [00:04] <@ehsan> but you're right, I can't find any mention of "exe" at all
# [00:05] <@ehsan> rforbes: a bug saying firefox doesn't work is not very useful
# [00:05] <@ehsan> rforbes: the way I get traction on my bugs is by minimizing the issue into a small test case...
# [00:05] <rforbes> no, i mean the one i am getting
# [00:06] <rforbes> where i keep getting the unresolved external for lsan
# [00:06] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: ping
# [00:06] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: yo
# [00:06] <jesup> gps: so it seems like it would be possible to mirror what's currently done with patchqueue repos, modulo having to share a full repo (and update it whenever you pulled from m-c/inbound/etc) - lot more bandwidth and storage, but would likely work. Still not clear on the details of getting it to work, of course.
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# [00:06] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: is there still some sort of API to clobber inbound?
# [00:07] <@ehsan> rforbes: that's what I'm talking about too :)
# [00:07] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: it's busted right now
# [00:07] <rforbes> you think that is too vague?
# [00:07] <jesup> gaston: so, how'd it go?
# [00:07] <rforbes> ok
# [00:07] <gps> jesup: oh, this is between machines?
# [00:07] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: can do
# [00:07] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: thanks
# [00:07] <jesup> yes, that's the whole point
# [00:07] <jesup> or 90% of the point
# [00:07] <gps> jesup: ok. give me 15 minutes to update the documentation with a detailed answer?
# [00:08] <gaston> jesup: it build & linked with my first patches, not trying the cleaner ones
# [00:08] <tromey> ehsan: ok, so I think to get a proper ac_exeext, configure.in must invoke AC_EXEEXT
# [00:08] <tromey> ehsan: which I believe firefox's does not
# [00:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: done
# [00:08] <billm> thanks
# [00:08] <jesup> a) to let me share a queue between mac/linux/windows and develop on all of them as needed; b) to share between myself and other devs (like gaston/gcp/padenot)
# [00:08] <KWierso|sheriffduty> if the clobbered retriggers build fine, I'll land a CLOBBER touch before reopening
# [00:08] <@ehsan> tromey: let me test that quickly here
# [00:09] <tromey> ok - I have to leave in a couple minutes unfortunately
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# [00:09] <@ehsan> tromey: right on!
# [00:09] <@ehsan> tromey: thanks a bunch
# [00:09] <tromey> no problem!
# [00:09] <tromey> ok, gonna go now, ttyl
# [00:09] <@ehsan> take care
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# [00:10] <jesup> gps: It would be nice if normal usage didn't cause expensive things to happen (my concern is these would be full repos, and cause more-expensive syncing all the time (download from m-i/m-c/aurora/beta/release, upload to users, all the time). But I might be able to live with that; hard to know how painful that'd be
# [00:12] <gaston> jesup: to me that workflow yells "i'm a github remote repo with a featurebranch" :)
# [00:12] <jesup> gps: Of course, I have FiOS. More painful for developers with slow links.
# [00:12] <gaston> (and i dont support github usage...)
# [00:13] <gps> jesup: there are things we can do to make this less painful. e.g. have server-assisted syncing
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# [00:13] <jesup> my brain has yet to wrap itself around github workflows. Partly because I avoid it as much as possible
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# [00:13] <gps> there are some interesting technologies upcoming in Mercurial that could enable some cool use cases like this
# [00:13] <gaston> or a plain git repo hosted anywhere else :)
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# [00:13] <gps> e.g. during push, client says "pull from this other repo then apply my commits"
# [00:14] <gps> git has the same problem
# [00:14] <jesup> I love the flowchart of git repos which start with "I inherited a mess" and end in "give up and burn it to the ground"
# [00:14] <gaston> i'm used to manage the same dirs concurrently in cvs and git but that's a specific usecase
# [00:14] <gps> it's a fundamental problem with DVCS. this is arguably an advantage of mq
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# [00:14] <Ms2ger> gaston, you going to fosdem, btw?
# [00:15] <gaston> yes!
# [00:15] <jesup> gps: yes. This is why I like mq.
# [00:15] <jesup> and I find it very easy to understand what's going on. I can live with manual merge resolution when needed
# [00:15] <Ms2ger> I guess I should come by the BSD devroom some time
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# [00:17] <gaston> Ms2ger: there's nothing interesting in the bsd devroom :)
# [00:17] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [00:17] <gaston> i'm more planning to hop by the geospatial one, then the crossdesktop one, then the mozilla devroom..
# [00:18] <Ms2ger> I'd consider the fuzzing talk, but it's during lsblakk's talk
# [00:18] <gaston> if you see a guy with a black hoodie and a wireframe blowfish on it, that's probably me (or a friend of mine :)
# [00:19] <Ms2ger> I'll be wearing my summit lanyard if I don't forget, and probably something Mozilla themed
# [00:19] <Ms2ger> Only Saturday this year, though
# [00:20] <Ms2ger> Dammit, I'd have liked to see https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/wikimedia_adopts_phabricator/
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# [00:22] <gaston> yeah i'll go to that one :)
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# [00:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7b0fe4de103 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 1121297) for Cpp bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1810fd0f78b4 - Wes Kocher - Touch CLOBBER for bug 1118618's backout to fix build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:28] <billm> glandium: ping
# [00:28] <glandium> billm: pong
# [00:28] <billm> glandium: is there a bug to not require a clobber whenever we remove an idl file? I can't seem to find anything.
# [00:29] <glandium> billm: that rings a bell, so there probably is one
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# [00:30] <glandium> billm: 1114669
# [00:30] <billm> glandium: thanks!
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# [00:35] <gps> jesup: https://mozilla-version-control-tools.readthedocs.org/en/latest/hgmozilla/bookmarks.html should contain a section on collaborating with bookmarks once ReadTheDocs updates
# [00:35] <gps> site is being slow for now
# [00:35] <gps> https://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/version-control-tools/rev/77a69aeb499f until is loads
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# [00:38] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: so that push that got backed out?
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# [00:38] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: it removed that test!
# [00:38] <KWierso|sheriffduty> seth: yep
# [00:38] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: i think it's a clobber issue
# [00:38] <seth> weird, because it didn't require a clobber locally
# [00:38] <KWierso|sheriffduty> fun
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# [00:43] <cpeterson> gps: the mq feature I miss with bookmarks is the ease of being able to quickly qpop-qpop-edit-qref-qpush-qpush to prepare a clean patch series. it sounds like hg changeset evolution might help.
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# [00:44] <seth> cpeterson: what i always do with git is keep the patch series messy until it's ready to be checked in, then rewrite history one time to be cleaner
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# [00:45] <seth> cpeterson: presumably using hg bookmarks lends itself to a similar approach, though i haven't tried using hg that way
# [00:45] <gps> cpeterson: hg histedit
# [00:45] <gps> hg histedit =~ git rebase -i
# [00:46] <gps> changeset evolution makes some things a little nicer
# [00:46] <gps> although the UX is quite bad, so I can't recommend it generally
# [00:46] <gps> but plenty of mozillians seem to be using it without major issues
# [00:46] <cpeterson> gps: UX of changeset evolution or histedit?
# [00:46] <gps> changeset evolution
# [00:46] <gps> it isn't part of core mercurial until the ux gets sorted out
# [00:47] <gps> but i've been using it for about a year and it works great for me
# [00:47] <cpeterson> i'll check out histedit again, but I thought it was mostly for squashing changesets
# [00:47] <gps> it facilitates the git way easily
# [00:48] <gps> if you want the mq way of updating to a non-head commit and rewriting it in place, changeset evolution is what you want
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# [00:48] <gps> hg previous; <make changes>; hg amend; hg evolve
# [00:49] <gps> wait, hg histedit has an "edit" function
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# [00:49] <cpeterson> thanks. it sounds like histedit is what seth wants (to clean up messy commits after the fact) and changeset evolution is what I want (to rewrite intermediate changesets in place)
# [00:49] <gps> so you can edit state and continue the histedit
# [00:49] <gps> so no evolution needed \o/
# [00:49] <gps> that may be a new feature in mercurial 3.2
# [00:50] <gps> it's definitely in 3.1
# [00:50] <gps> meh
# [00:50] <seth> you couldn't do that before?
# [00:50] <seth> wasn't really an equivalnet of git rebase -i until they added that =\
# [00:51] <cpeterson> cool! thanks.
# [00:52] <gps> can't remember when the "edit" action was added
# [00:52] <gps> I know "roll" (equivalent of git's fixup) was added in 3.1 or 3.2
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# [00:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=c9162436444e - 30 changesets
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# [01:25] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: re: bug 850197, RyanVM|afk and i were planning to disable that test today, but I didn't push it yet
# [01:25] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: do you want me to just push it on a CLOSED TREE now?
# [01:27] <KWierso|sheriffduty> seth: sure
# [01:27] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: ok
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# [01:33] <seth> KWierso|sheriffduty: doh, actually i have outgoing patches already qfin'ed. will push once the tree reopens, sorry
# [01:34] <seth> forgot i did that
# [01:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> seth: hg qimport -r tip && hg qpop
# [01:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> will pull the tip back into mq and pop it off of the queue
# [01:34] <KWierso|sheriffduty> repeat as needed until outgoing changes are all out
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# [02:20] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: you still around by any chance?
# [02:20] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: yes
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# [02:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> so your backout failed to build with IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '../../../dist/idl/nsIHangReport.idl' before the clobber
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# [02:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> the clobber built just fine
# [02:21] <KWierso|sheriffduty> the push after that touched CLOBBER, and built fine
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# [02:22] <KWierso|sheriffduty> then seth pushed a patch, and it's failing with mozpack.errors.ErrorMessage: Symlink target path does not exist: /builds/slave/m-in-l64-d-0000000000000000000/build/src/dom/ipc/nsIHangReport.idl
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# [02:23] <seth> yeah, i noticed that too
# [02:23] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: any idea how that would've made it past the clobbers?
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# [02:28] <billm> KWierso|sheriffduty: good question. I dunno. all that happened was that an IDL file got removed in my backout. that's known to require a CLOBBER. maybe someone from releng would know.
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# [02:28] <KWierso|sheriffduty> billm: I'll try to find one of them
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# [02:56] <seth> can anyone recommend some sites that do lots of stuff even when they're a background tab?
# [02:56] <seth> i want to slow firefox down, or at least perturb its timing
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# [02:58] <&dbaron> shu, based on the way my hg bisect is going, that other assertion is looking like it might also be from your changes
# [02:59] <&dbaron> shu, although it could be sfink
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# [02:59] <nalexander> seth: gmail, facebook, treeherder.
# [02:59] <nalexander> seth: we've seen trouble with all of those at different times.
# [02:59] <nalexander> seth: maybe background players like soundcloud?
# [03:00] <nalexander> seth: or GPS consumers, like mapmyrun and friends?
# [03:00] <seth> nalexander: thanks, i'll try those (though gmail and facebook might be tricky since i need to use a fresh profile for this test every time)
# [03:00] <&dbaron> shu, actually, a few other possibilities; I was looking at too small a list
# [03:01] <seth> lol, wow, treeherder alone might be enough! it's a beast!
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# [03:02] <shu> dbaron: i'm pretty sure it's me; it's s-s though, moving to privmsg
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# [03:05] <nalexander> seth: yeah, th is pretty gnarly.
# [03:05] <nalexander> seth: a candidate for server push if ever there was one :)
# [03:05] <seth> =)
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# [03:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/debc66b7bfe7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 924087 - Do not make editable elements as active, as their default action is disabled; r=smaug,dbaron
# [03:10] <lgarner> smaug: Ping.
# [03:11] <KWierso> seth: open ten different trees in different treeherder tabs :)
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# [03:13] <seth> KWierso: i just did two and it's already making all the animations stutter =)
# [03:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e10a79c4ac9f - Seth Fowler - Bug 1121297 (Part 1) - Move VolatileBuffer into libxul. r=glandium
# [03:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26cdb770b821 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1121297 (Part 2) - Make VolatileBuffer threadsafe. r=glandium
# [03:14] <seth> KWierso: btw, i touched the clobber file in those patches now ^
# [03:14] <seth> i think that should fix it
# [03:14] <KWierso> seth: yay
# [03:14] <@smaug> lgarner: pong
# [03:14] <seth> much clobber
# [03:15] <@smaug> lgarner: actually, getting really late here
# [03:15] <@smaug> good night
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# [03:16] <lgarner> Opps. One line or less then. Will this work on parent? debug("Is there a shell? Shell: " + shell);
# [03:16] <lgarner> let win = Services.appShell.hiddenDOMWindow;
# [03:16] <lgarner> debug("Is there a window? Window.");
# [03:16] <lgarner> debug("Is there a window? Window: " + win);
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# [03:19] <lgarner> smaug: ANyway, please have a good night :)
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# [04:22] <philor> really not supposed to be seeing that on m-c *above* the merge which marked it random-if(B2G)
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# [04:28] <seth> philor: ???
# [04:29] <seth> philor: did i mess up the test annotation?
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# [04:31] <philor> seth: no idea!
# [04:32] <philor> I wouldn't think so, since it didn't come back on m-i that I've seen, unless we just swept it under the "b;r" carpet all day
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# [04:32] <seth> weird...
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# [04:33] <philor> and it didn't get mis-merged
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# [04:33] <philor> so my bet is that b2g's "build system" sucks
# [04:34] <seth> i think we can be confident that that's true =)
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# [04:43] <bz> Death, death, death and despair.
# [04:44] <bz> philor: ^
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# [04:44] <bz> philor: every time you retrigger a build, a fairy in Neverland dies.
# [04:44] <philor> bz: too few possibilities, I triggered 20, needs more death
# [04:45] <philor> relatedly, I just typoed a search for "buildsap", so at least my violence is taking a noir turn
# [04:45] <bz> we're going to outsource our build system to SAP?
# [04:45] * bz recommends not
# [04:47] <bz> Now looks like a good time to land stuff
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# [04:47] <philor> my psychiatrist will find it an improvement on my usual searches for buildknife_really_really_big_knife
# [04:47] <philor> as long as you aren't touching spdy, since someone seems to have broken it
# [04:47] <bz> That depends on whether your psychiatrist is firebot
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# [04:48] <philor> anyone want to bet on how loudly I'll scream when I find out how long ago it was broken?
# [04:48] <bz> Quantitative or qualitative?
# [04:48] <philor> quant, there's no quality in my screaming anymore
# [04:50] <bz> 110db
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# [05:08] <philor> the great thing about web-platform-tests is that they reimplement tests we already have, much much more poorly, but we'll never get rid of our existing tests so we'll just burn that much more electricity
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# [05:09] <philor> that might not have been "great" that I was looking up
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# [05:09] <heycam> maybe we should have the option of a carbon offset donation for every test we add to the tree
# [05:10] <heycam> payable in those prime4commit XPMs we all get, perhaps
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# [05:11] <philor> but then we'll have to pay the carbon offset for prime4commit transactions
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# [05:17] <philor> interesting that we have massive test failures in canvas on 10.10, but w-p-t canvas we have nothing but unexpected passes
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# [05:40] <bz> heycam: busy night?
# [05:40] <heycam> bz, busy past 5 weeks, a relaxed saturday of landing :-)
# [05:40] <bz> heh
# [05:41] <heycam> bz, what do you think of the "overload" keyword thing I mentioned in the WebRTC github issue?
# [05:41] <heycam> bz, worth adding?
# [05:42] <bz> seems ok to me
# [05:42] <heycam> k
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# [05:46] <&dbaron> ooh, that's finally landing :-)
# [05:47] <heycam> dbaron, my big patch queue was all depending on bug 1120047
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# [05:47] <&dbaron> heycam, can you explain why, dare I ask?
# [05:48] * &dbaron never followed that
# [05:48] <heycam> dbaron, it was tickling something that would cause expected assertions in some test to happen with JIT stuff on the stack
# [05:48] <heycam> dbaron, and on linux32 there's no frame pointers stored on the stack in JIT stuff
# [05:48] <heycam> dbaron, maybe previously we were lucky that the heuristics in nsStackWalk.cpp skipped over the not-really-frame-pointers
# [05:49] <heycam> dbaron, but with my patch queue a value that looked close enough to be a frame pointer was there
# [05:49] <&dbaron> heycam, oh, so you were ending up not having __libc_stack_end when you should have had it?
# [05:49] <heycam> dbaron, yes
# [05:49] <heycam> dbaron, so the value was way above the actual stack region
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# [05:57] <philor> stahp!
# [05:57] <heycam> that's the last of it
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# [05:59] <&dbaron> philor, too much tree closure during the day?
# [06:00] <philor> all that, and you didn't even give me a border-radius-start, did you?
# [06:01] <philor> not even 4 hours of closure, that's nothing!
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# [06:02] <philor> nothing!
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# [06:02] <philor> dbaron: running reftests in https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=cedar&revision=336eba646adc&filter-platform=10-10
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# [06:02] <&dbaron> philor, what about them?
# [06:02] * philor wonders yet again how you are supposed to see Wr
# [06:03] <philor> dbaron: running with your >=1008's
# [06:03] <&dbaron> philor, yeah, there's still more to do -- need to bug mstange about the scrollbar thing
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# [06:03] <&dbaron> philor, I'm thinking maybe 10.10 has a thing where the scrollbars are different colors against different backgrounds...
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# [06:04] <philor> hmm, I never actually look at them, could be
# [06:04] <heycam> philor, good point about border-radius; it's not mentioned in http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-logical-props/ but would make sense to have
# [06:05] <philor> heycam: can't remember what it was, but I had a (Thunderbird) reason for filing bug 475190
# [06:08] <&dbaron> heycam, border-block-start-inline-end-radius? :-P
# [06:08] <heycam> dbaron, heh yeah, nice :)
# [06:09] <heycam> dbaron, maybe that's why...
# [06:09] <heycam> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jan/0313.html
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# [06:18] <philor> oh, that's how you see what failed in a web-platform-reftest, you just look at the failure of the same test in a real reftest
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# [06:20] <philor> ooh, and I found a failure that isn't scrollbars!
# [06:20] <&dbaron> philor, yeah, there were a bunch
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# [06:21] <philor> I'm surprised by the amount of bidi fail
# [06:22] <&dbaron> philor, hmm, I didn't see that when skimming the other day
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# [06:23] <&dbaron> philor, what bidi fail?
# [06:23] <philor> last two, which are the w-p-t-r fails too,
# [06:24] * philor tries to figure out which one he's currently looking at
# [06:24] <&dbaron> philor, last 2 in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/tip/layout/tools/reftest/reftest-analyzer.xhtml#logurl=http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/cedar-macosx64/1421461740/cedar_yosemite_test-reftest-bm107-tests1-macosx-build4.txt.gz&only_show_unexpected=1 are scrollbars
# [06:25] <philor> text-overflow/xulscroll.html which may or may not be, dunno
# [06:25] <philor> next to last has scrollbars on the wrong side, though, which I thought might be significant
# [06:28] <philor> but I may well just be surprised by how many rtl form controls with scrollbars we have in tests
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# [06:33] <&dbaron> philor, ah, yes, the last 2 may well be bidi related -- I looked at the last instead of the next-to-last
# [06:34] <&dbaron> philor, anyway, filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122872
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# [06:36] <philor> dbaron: oh, ugh, translucent
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# [06:36] <&dbaron> philor, it might be that the OS does different things depending on the background... and that our graphics architecture only randomly does or doesn't provide the background that the OS expects
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# [06:39] <philor> maybe the thumb isn't translucent, but it's definately a darker black in the part that's over a black background than the part that's over a grey background
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# [07:02] <philor> http://mozilla-releng-blobs.s3.amazonaws.com/blobs/cedar/sha512/552589846e100808616b4a8718e4ae2fd601304c3ec7422ecd59755165e97eb73353107feb1c7fc674bf86af356f86c0fa7f52cc01c00c20183a5f6ee2a6be8c
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# [07:03] <philor> mochitest-a11y on 10.10 is going to run pretty slowly, if it needs someone to type a username and password to run each test
# [07:10] <philor> tbsaunde: awake?
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# [07:18] <philor> oh, that's not a11y's problem, other than its ongoing failure to deal with a surprise dialog
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# [07:22] <philor> no
# [07:23] <seth> philor: haha, that was quick
# [07:23] <philor> :)
# [07:24] <philor> not only are there 26 unstarred failures I haven't even looked at, but the PGO timer was 4 hours last time I looked, so at 4 hours you might be just starting in on the build that will take something like 2 hours before it runs tests that take up to, what, 90 minutes?
# [07:24] <seth> oh wow
# [07:24] <seth> i didn't realize we only ran PGO builds every 4 hours (though if they take that long, it makes sense!)
# [07:25] <philor> plus there are times where we'll star the first four or five instances of something before realizing that "-FAIL foo" every single run is not "Intermittent foobar"
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# [07:30] <philor> plus we have some insane timeouts
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# [07:58] <&dbaron> test_spdy.js seems to be more red than green these days
# [07:58] <philor> it's ted's fault, for not reviewing
# [07:59] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102923#c53 but I don't currently find it intolerable
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# [08:30] <philor> ah, the other side of the fence
# [08:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a6b53cd045 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 1122553 - BroadcastChannel should keep FileImpl alive when sent to the PBackground actors, r=bent
# [08:31] <philor> bug 996578 is unquestionably my fault, but it's not my fault that nobody made the slightest effort to tell me about it
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# [08:35] <philor> I really should just put that poor test completely out of its misery
# [08:39] <philor> how does http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/exthandler/tests/mochitest/handlerApps.js even?
# [08:40] <philor> it runs two tests, first a webhandler test which opens a file in a new window, and that file calls finish() on the opener, then after that a test which opens iCal.app, and then after those two tests, it calls waitForExplicitFinish
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# [09:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba8558804ee7 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1122366 - pt 2 - Also make nsInlineFrame::IsSelfEmpty aware of vertical writing modes. r=dbaron
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# [11:25] <mastizada> Anybody have idea why Firefox Developer Edition in Linux asks to activate Windows Media Player for playing avi file
# [11:25] <mastizada> And clicking to Activate crashes browser, after restore, it doesn't ask again for that file
# [11:26] <mastizada> Do I need to report it in bugzilla&
# [11:26] <mastizada> ?
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# [18:14] <philor> jdm: that's a little bit red, that there is
# [18:14] <jdm> :((
# [18:14] <jdm> I just ran a try job last night
# [18:14] <philor> does that mean you needed a clobber?
# [18:15] <jdm> I _did_ clobber
# [18:15] <jdm> oh hell
# [18:15] <jdm> missing IDL because of a patch reject on a moved file
# [18:15] <philor> did you need to clobber *harder*? I sometimes find people don't listen until the second time I hit them in the face
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# [18:15] <philor> oh, that sounds like a more gentle fix
# [18:16] <jdm> yeah, just mercurial being dumb
# [18:16] <philor> "on a CLOSED TREE"
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# [18:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/865e7bc208df - Josh Matthews - Bug 885982 - Add missing IDL on a CLOSED TREE.
# [18:18] <philor> did jandem break it with whatever polymorphic inlining of non-singletons might be, or did it break because it has both "calendar" and "gaia" in the name?
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# [18:38] <philor> oh, goodie, are we putting up that latest "we're shoving e10s down your throat, like it or not" notification during every test run?
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# [18:59] <philor> okay. now all I have to do is explain why a single Gu above jandem's push didn't fail
# [19:00] <philor> not unlike how a single b2g build above the push which marked a test as random-if still managed to fail that test
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# [19:01] <philor> so I guess I'll explain it as "b2g builds have little or no relationship to the code which they claim to have built", and stay closed until I find out whether I actually back out the correct thing
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# [19:03] <&dbaron> philor, do the logs say what they built in a more useful way?
# [19:04] <philor> dbaron: an interesting question, I'm pretty sure there's one place that they say which is known-busted
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# [19:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99ee26ed26e5 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 41607c9f0d26 (bug 900849) on suspicion of making Gu interval_tree_test.js time out
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# [19:07] <philor> the suspicious build, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-linux64_gecko/1421504042/mozilla-inbound-linux64_gecko-bm71-build1-build95.txt.gz, claims to have not liked the shared directory, clobbered it, and done hg pull -r 9124cbf3e75fee0f1e1e048fa0e5a2affee285dd, which I'd hope would wind up building on that
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# [19:10] <philor> not sure whether it's possible to say whether the build that the test downloaded is actually the build it should have been
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# [19:13] <philor> or whether the build that was downloaded was the one that was installed
# [19:13] <philor> or whether the one that was installed was the one that was run
# [19:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/0f6f59a8161e - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1119119: Do not abort when calling appendBuffer with no data. r=cajbir a=sledru
# [19:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/3d98b745fa61 - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1119119: Update web-platform-tests expected data. r=karlt a=sledru
# [19:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/28003eff234f - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1120084: Implement MSE's AppendErrorAlgorithm. r=cajbir a=sledru
# [19:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/53345874560b - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1120086: Re-open SourceBuffer after call to appendBuffer if in ended state. r=cajbir a=sledru
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# [19:28] <philor> and since all that means I might want another build and another test above my backout, we're open again
# [19:30] <philor> oh, nice, I did a try run where what I most needed to see was 10.8 tests, but I forgot how we make our lives more difficult intentionally
# [19:31] <philor> fine, inbound is my try
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# [19:52] <RyanVM|afk> philor: can we kill test_fullscreen-api next?
# [19:52] <RyanVM|afk> or test-pointerlock? pretty please?
# [19:52] * RyanVM|afk always mixes those two up, but they're both equally sucky and unowned
# [19:52] <philor> RyanVM|afk: do they have the excuse that I'm failing to properly bail from them?
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# [19:53] <philor> fullscreen isn't unowned, look, it got a comment when I disabled it on 10.10! (about "why didn't you disable it on 10.9?", but a comment is a comment)
# [19:53] <RyanVM|afk> hahaha
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# [19:55] <RyanVM|afk> philor: damn if I wasn't foiled by bad slaves on those newtab tests though
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# [19:56] <philor> RyanVM|afk: I'm looking forward (in a hypothetical "as if anyone ever would" sense) to finding out why they were bad
# [19:57] <RyanVM|afk> philor: i didn't bother to look if there were screenshots or anything, but I thought it was interesting that -022 had just gotten a new disk installed
# [19:57] <RyanVM|afk> makes me wonder if 015 has something wrong too
# [19:57] <RyanVM|afk> didn't we have failures once from a rogue system diagnostics window or something?
# [19:58] <philor> my personal favorite is that one of the bad-slave bugs indicates that "there is a CD in the drive"
# [19:59] <philor> no idea whether that means that it's first in the boot order, and we were running off the diagnostics CD, or what
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# [20:01] <RyanVM|afk> standard off the shelf mac minies?
# [20:01] <RyanVM|afk> minis*
# [20:02] <tbsaunde> yeah, I guess for mac you knid of need to buy machines with them
# [20:04] <philor> not any more, but we've apparently decided not to buy any new ones
# [20:05] <RyanVM|afk> philor: IIUC, we're getting ~200 new mac slaves next year for 10.10
# [20:05] <RyanVM|afk> not sure what kind, though
# [20:05] <philor> RyanVM|afk: hahahahaha
# [20:05] <philor> ha
# [20:05] <philor> no we aren't
# [20:05] <RyanVM|afk> says?
# [20:05] <philor> we're going to reuse the 10.8 slaves, and *buy used ones*
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# [20:05] <philor> can't believe I didn't hit it
# [20:05] <RyanVM|afk> *sigh*
# [20:06] <RyanVM|afk> that's not what I heard, but I wouldn't have a hard time believing it
# [20:06] <philor> also, I think there was something about "and cut ourselves"
# [20:07] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094344
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# [21:26] <seth> RyanVM|afk: philor: any chance for a merge from inbound to central sometime today?
# [21:27] <seth> i want to push more but i'm kinda nervous about the number of patches i already have sitting on inbound
# [21:27] <RyanVM|afk> seth: i haven't even looked at TH today, no idea how things look
# [21:27] <philor> seth: would have been in about 45 seconds, but our fucking infra fucking sucks, which I noticed just before merging something which had a timed out Win PGO build
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# [21:27] <philor> so say goodbye to at least b-2008-ix-0007
# [21:28] <philor> and however many more of them the rage leads me to keep disabling until morale improves
# [21:28] <RyanVM|afk> philor: honestly, I think we have enough evidence spread across those various bugs to disable the others too
# [21:28] <seth> =(
# [21:28] <RyanVM|afk> philor: it's what we did with the COFF errors (ended up being a bit of a misfire, but at least it got someone looking at them)
# [21:28] <philor> 12/13/14 I don't like, the rest I'm still unsure about
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> seth, you know, go ahead and land, and I'll just back out everything to be sure :)
# [21:28] <RyanVM|afk> philor: you saw the other one I CCed you to yetserday?
# [21:29] <RyanVM|afk> the PDB errors?
# [21:29] <RyanVM|afk> same slaves AFAICT
# [21:29] <RyanVM|afk> I think we have enough evidence to just disable them for now and let jlund et al sort it out
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# [21:29] <seth> Ms2ger: well i'm pretty sure there's a decent chance of that whether you do it or not, that's why i'm waiting for the merge =)
# [21:36] <capella> ryanvm: on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=369a8f14ccf8, we seem to be tracking busted/red/infra crashes to bug #1122737 ... has this always been done (vs. restarting the job w/o starring?)
# [21:36] <capella> er, ryanvm|afk --^
# [21:37] <RyanVM|afk> capella: not sure I understand your question?
# [21:37] <capella> (android 4.0 rc7 shows red on tbpl - was starred on treeherder )
# [21:37] <RyanVM|afk> TBPL isn't being used anymore
# [21:37] <capella> so the definition of red in this case has changed
# [21:38] <RyanVM|afk> not sure what the state of TH stars translating to TBPL is, but I can guarantee you that few if anybody care
# [21:38] <RyanVM|afk> "red" is based on a return code from buildbot based on the result given to it by the test harness
# [21:39] <RyanVM|afk> TBPL/TH have no way of knowing what kind of failure something it is except what buildbot tells it
# [21:39] <RyanVM|afk> so your question should really be "What changed in the harness that's causing these jobs to be red instead of orange?"
# [21:39] <RyanVM|afk> and for that, I don't know offhand, sorry
# [21:39] <capella> right, but I think this failure was considered like an infra thing, not trackable to software
# [21:39] <RyanVM|afk> what makes you think that?
# [21:39] <RyanVM|afk> I certainly wouldn't make that call based on a color on a CI dashboard
# [21:40] <capella> mmm
# [21:40] <RyanVM|afk> and I'd *really* hope people investigating them aren't
# [21:41] <RyanVM|afk> I would really hope that the failure logs would be what people care about rather than the return code it ends up with from the harness
# [21:41] <RyanVM|afk> (but do feel free to file a bug on that if you think the harness is failing with the wrong return code)
# [21:42] <RyanVM|afk> capella: and yes, use TBPL at your own peril at this point
# [21:42] <RyanVM|afk> it's not being actively maintained
# [21:42] <capella> meh... I wrote the test and don't like to see it random fail in a way I guess I can't code to correct
# [21:42] <RyanVM|afk> it's probably going to be EOL by the end of the quarter
# [21:42] <capella> or something along those lines :/
# [21:42] <RyanVM|afk> feel free to ping gbrown
# [21:42] <RyanVM|afk> he's my usual go-to
# [21:43] <capella> yah, I worked with him to fix bug 851861 recently
# [21:43] <RyanVM|afk> (thanks for that, by the way!)
# [21:43] <capella> that was an old one :)
# [21:43] * RyanVM|afk is going to be looking at the feasibility of branch backports for that Really Soon Now
# [21:43] <capella> Yah, I see a couple aurora crash still
# [21:44] <capella> I figured it'd self-clear in 6 weeks :p
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# [21:45] <RyanVM|afk> easy to say when you're not the one starring them all day ;)
# [21:45] <RyanVM|afk> personally, I'd rather spend my time doing more productive things
# [21:45] <capella> heh - I thought the aurora incidents were low, but yah, we should nom it
# [21:46] <capella> since it seems to have worked
# [21:46] <RyanVM|afk> if it's all test-only, it doesn't need approval for uplift
# [21:46] <RyanVM|afk> like I said, I intended to look at that next week
# [21:46] <capella> k - I'd like to close the base bug
# [21:46] <RyanVM|afk> if it backports cleanly and only touches test code, I intend to get it as far back as I can
# [21:46] <RyanVM|afk> go for it
# [21:46] <capella> it touches mobile browser just a little
# [21:47] <RyanVM|afk> sigh, that complicates life
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# [21:47] <capella> so the test code can disable predicted interfering code behaviours
# [21:47] <RyanVM|afk> in that case, aurora/beta approvals would be appreciated :)
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# [21:49] <philor> oh hey, I've got PGO above that timeout
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# [21:52] <capella> philor: was your comment relevent to my discussion?
# [21:52] <capella> Did I miss something?
# [21:52] <philor> capella: not at all!
# [21:52] <capella> ah, o - heh
# [21:52] <RyanVM|afk> capella: thank you kindly :)
# [21:52] <capella> B)
# [21:53] <RyanVM|afk> capella: FWIW, going back to our earlier discussion
# [21:53] <philor> I'm unfamiliar with the presence of others on a weekend, so I just continue my interior monologue
# [21:54] <RyanVM|afk> I have seen more failures showing up red lately, so it suggests to me that something changed at the harness level that's affecting return codes, but I haven't really had the motivation to look into it given that in the end, it doesn't really matter much
# [21:54] <capella> I've joined those seemingly private rants a couple times :p ... usually quiet here on weekends so they're ... *fun*
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# [21:56] <capella> ryanvm|afk I made a note on that bug... the test generates a screenshot that has nothing to do with itself ... like the device froze from a previous test ... I guess I'll take a look at this new screenshot and see how it compares
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# [22:00] <Ms2ger> Don't let AutomatedTester see you, he doesn't like overwork :)
# [22:01] <AutomatedTester> especially when it's a long weekend
# [22:01] * RyanVM|afk hides
# [22:01] <AutomatedTester> ;)
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# [22:01] <RyanVM|afk> AutomatedTester: funtimes about the 10.10 slaves, btw
# [22:01] * RyanVM|afk missed that memo
# [22:01] <AutomatedTester> ?
# [22:02] <RyanVM|afk> we're not buying new ones after all apparently
# [22:02] <RyanVM|afk> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094344
# [22:02] <AutomatedTester> I either forgot that or missed the memo
# [22:02] * RyanVM|afk wonders if that means we're going to look at AWS cross-compiles again so we repurpose the existing r5 build slaves
# [22:03] <philor> it's entirely possible that the ass-end of https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=92283&repo=cedar doesn't actually mean that the r5's aren't capable of running 10.10
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# [22:03] <philor> entirely possible
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# [22:04] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: tbqh... the new rev of mac minis are shit
# [22:04] <RyanVM|afk> AutomatedTester: wow, that leaves us in a great position from the sounds of it
# [22:05] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: my friends in tools at Facebook had a backorder of the previous rev of mac minis because they went from quad core to dual core and less rRAM
# [22:05] <Ms2ger> Mac minis were always an... interesting choice
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# [22:06] <AutomatedTester> Ms2ger: it's the standard since they stopped making xservers
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# [22:07] <AutomatedTester> what are we supposed to do? buy the garbage can ?
# [22:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/88f7f6c66882 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1122276 - Move lock from GetTargetNode to call sites. r=botond
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# [22:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2eb235ad3fcb - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
# [22:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/51f665bec8d7 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to b2g-inbound a=merge
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# [22:08] <RyanVM|afk> AutomatedTester: can we rack MBPs? :D
# [22:08] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: that's not the craziest idea :)
# [22:09] <AutomatedTester> since we refresh every 2 years we could use the refreshed machines
# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e72b48d59969 - Michael Comella - Bug 1116912 - Don't hide the dynamic toolbar when it was originally shown but a tab was selected. r=wesj
# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e161904aeeb9 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 1120236 - fix autocomplete in case search bar doesn't exist, r=florian
# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a57f75ad12f1 - Archaeopteryx - Bug 1121610 - Change WiFi -> Wi-Fi. r=nalexander
# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c8634e2a4117 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1119070 - Add migration=sync11 query parameter to post-migration /account/login. r=rnewman
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# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/72103138c055 - Nick Alexander - Bug 1119061 - Part 2: Add Sync 1.1 -> Sync 1.5 migration telemetry. r=rnewman
# [22:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/35df417b93a7 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge f-t to m-c, a=merge
# [22:12] <RyanVM|afk> AutomatedTester: huh, fun
# [22:13] <RyanVM|afk> my recollection was that the cloud options didn't end up being any lost costly than just hosting in-house?
# [22:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=3f7840b5b8fc - 15 changesets
# [22:13] <RyanVM|afk> less*
# [22:13] <Ms2ger> "that's not the craziest idea" is British for "you're batshit insane", right?
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# [22:13] <AutomatedTester> that is true except how many cloud providers are there for OSX?
# [22:13] <Ms2ger> Not a lot
# [22:13] <AutomatedTester> not a lot === 0?
# [22:13] <Ms2ger> We looked into that for Servo at one point
# [22:13] <Ms2ger> No, there's a couple
# [22:14] <philor> it's British for "at least philor hasn't mentioned that the Retina iMac is available with a VESA mount. yet."
# [22:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/pushloghtml?changeset=35df417b93a7 - 200 changesets
# [22:14] <AutomatedTester> philor: ++
# [22:18] <RyanVM|afk> "Intel Iris Graphics and HD Graphics 5000. Every pixel comes alive."
# [22:18] <RyanVM|afk> man I love Apple marketing
# [22:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=35df417b93a7 - 63 changesets
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# [22:19] <philor> alas, poor jdm
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# [22:19] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: they are pretty good at marketing
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# [22:28] <RyanVM|afk> AutomatedTester: i'd be curious to see how the 2.8ghz mini benchmarks vs. the rev5
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# [22:29] <RyanVM|afk> ooo, for an extra $200 you can go to the 3ghz i7
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# [22:31] <AutomatedTester> RyanVM|afk: but iirc there are less cores
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# [22:33] <RyanVM|afk> yeah, dual
# [22:34] <AutomatedTester> so we will slower since we can't saturate more cores
# [22:34] <AutomatedTester> :/
# [22:34] <RyanVM|afk> in theory :P
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# [22:34] <RyanVM|afk> that's what I'd be curious about (how good we're doing with that on the rev5s)
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# [22:55] <Delta706> Can someone recommend an expert on the HTML5 player?
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# [23:10] <philor> boy, the way people act like there's zero chance a bug comment will be read without a needinfo these days, I'm sure glad my hobby for the last 10 years hasn't been "comment in bugs," that would be sort of depressing
# [23:11] <RyanVM|afk> inorite?
# [23:11] <RyanVM|afk> we're a dying breed :P
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# [23:14] <Ms2ger> I'll be so glad when test_canvas.html is dead
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# [23:15] <Archaeopteryx> i also wonder why people needinfo themselves _and_ have to comment only about that fact
# [23:15] <philor> so that people don't say "did you mean to needinfo someone other than yourself?"
# [23:16] <philor> though it doesn't stop people from saying "is this really the only way you can think of to produce a todo list?"
# [23:17] <philor> at least, not from saying it out loud, very loud, and then having to wipe the spit off their monitor
# [23:17] <Ms2ger> So how was your day, philor? :)
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# [23:19] <philor> Ms2ger: so far, so good! my computer is dying, I apparently caused an intermittent starting last April which nobody mentioned to me, inbound has continuous backouts over the last 10 hours, things are pretty smooth
# [23:20] <Ms2ger> Be careful what you say, we might ship you a new one :)
# [23:22] <RyanVM|afk> philor: oh boy, what intermittent is that?
# [23:23] <philor> RyanVM|afk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996578
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# [23:23] <RyanVM|afk> sweeet
# [23:23] <&dbaron> philor, if a bugzilla comment is directed at a specific person rather than directed at everybody on the bug, you should probably use needinfo
# [23:23] <philor> I don't get the intermittency, but then I've never understood the control flow in that test
# [23:24] <RyanVM|afk> philor: if cared enough to look into it more, mwargers might be able to help
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# [23:28] <philor> RyanVM|afk: I've wanted to kill it on all OS X since the first minute I knew it opened iCal and left it open, so I'll wait until I break another test before I worry about it :)
# [23:29] <RyanVM|afk> philor: yeah, that's pretty damn dumb
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# [23:31] <philor> does SeaMonkey run tests anywhere these days?
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# [23:50] <philor> that'll do wonders for my attitude
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# [23:51] * RyanVM|afk clearly isn't CCed to the right bugs
# [23:51] <philor> suddenly instead of having to star 2-6 emulator failed to starts on b2g per push, I'm having to open the log for 2-6 failure summary is emptys to find that's what they were
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