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- # Session Start: Sat Jan 31 00:00:00 2015
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:07] <darktrojan> that should work a little better, Mossop :-)
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- # [00:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/c982c9de6d4a - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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- # [00:13] <Mossop> darktrojan: Looks good, thanks
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- # [00:15] <aceman> hi, if in JS there is a function inside a function, will it need to be parsed/compiled by the JS engine every time the containing function is called?
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- # [00:16] <shu> aceman: no, parsing should only happen once
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- # [00:17] <bholley> RyanVM: yt?
- # [00:17] <aceman> shu: I mean, would it be any faster if the internal function is defined outside?
- # [00:17] <shu> aceman: could be, yes, but not due to parsing
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- # [00:18] <aceman> shu: the function does not change in any way, I just wonder if the engine sees that and does not reparse/recompile it each time
- # [00:18] <aceman> shu: so why could it be faster?
- # [00:19] <shu> aceman: short story is type inference
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- # [00:20] <RyanVM> bholley: yo
- # [00:20] <shu> aceman: we tend to track toplevel functions (i.e., those defined outside of any function) more carefully in the type profiling and inference, leading to things like easier inlining in the JITs, etc
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- # [00:21] <aceman> shu: what about functions as members of objects?
- # [00:22] <shu> aceman: what about them?
- # [00:22] <shu> aceman: are you asking calling them will be as fast?
- # [00:22] <aceman> shu: do you track those?
- # [00:22] <shu> err, if calling them*
- # [00:22] <shu> aceman: so, that depends on a few more variables
- # [00:22] <aceman> shu: yes, if they are also considered toplevel
- # [00:22] <shu> aceman: the usual pattern is something like, you a method 'm' on some object's prototype
- # [00:23] <shu> aceman: if i have such an object 'o', and call 'o.m()', it'll depend on how well the engine can figure out the types of 'o', and from there the functions that 'm' can possibly be
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- # [00:23] <shu> aceman: in the best case, it'll be just as fast
- # [00:24] <aceman> do I need to set it via prototype?
- # [00:24] <shu> aceman: but there's also a greater chance that the JIT can't generate the best case
- # [00:24] <aceman> or just var o = { m:function() {} }
- # [00:24] <shu> aceman: the engine should be able to figure out both cases
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- # [00:26] <aceman> shu: is there any difference if there is only a single instance of that object?
- # [00:27] <shu> aceman: most of the time no
- # [00:28] <aceman> ok, thanks
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- # [00:28] <shu> aceman: we have some specific heuristics for guessing if it's likely there will only be one value of some type, ever
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- # [00:29] <dholbert> I'm trying to use "rr" for the first time, but it's hanging on "Starting program: /path/to/firefox", when I try to replay an execution. Anyone else hit this before?
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- # [00:36] <dholbert> never mind, I got it (by running replay with "-g" arg and an event number, to delay attaching the debugger)
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- # [00:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce52eb68bc21 - Gary Kwong - Bug 1128097 - Unable to compile js 32-bit ARM-simulator shells on Mac. rs=jandem
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- # [01:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=a0f242c5683b - 17 changesets
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- # [01:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b6586cc875f - Dan Gohman - Bug 1125236 - SpiderMonkey: Verify that asm.js heap loads and stores can be correctly disassembled r=jandem
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- # [03:36] <philor> okay, that's unacceptable. we claim that https://www.graywolfpress.org/sites/default/files/Percy%20-%20Goodnight%20moon.mp3 can't be played because it's corrupt, while both Safari and Chrome will play its absolutely lovely and wonderful self
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- # [11:37] <Ms2ger|docs> OH: "tinderbox"
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- # [11:37] <darktrojan> never heard of it
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- # [11:49] <Ms2ger|distros> lsblakk, so, ready for your talk? :)
- # [11:50] <Ms2ger|distros> darktrojan, sounded like it was still in active use at libreoffice
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- # [11:54] <daleharvey> So the latest nightly 1. seemed to wipe my profile, and 2. is crashy as, like every other click crashes the tabs
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- # [11:57] <darktrojan> Ms2ger, having used libreoffice, I can believe that
- # [11:57] <Ms2ger|distros> Ha
- # [11:57] <Ms2ger|distros> Hey, they use C++11 now
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- # [11:57] <darktrojan> it's not what you use, it's if you do anything useful with it
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- # [12:14] <xidorn> there seems to be a time dependent intermittent failure on a gaia unittest
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- # [12:14] <xidorn> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound&filter-platform=B2G%20Desktop%20Linux%20x64%20opt&filter-job_type_symbol=Gu
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- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6161f6b9dbbe - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-spot-015 - a=hsts-update
- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8c56dd382b2c - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HPKP preload list update from host bld-linux64-spot-015 - a=hpkp-update
- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5cbae82bdb4b - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-spot-015 - a=blocklist-update
- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/5a04e849dc12 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-spot-202 - a=hsts-update
- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/119ed11ce2d9 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HPKP preload list update from host bld-linux64-spot-202 - a=hpkp-update
- # [12:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/48d576bf04d4 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-spot-202 - a=blocklist-update
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- # [12:57] <daleharvey> is nightly crashy for anyone else or just me?
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- # [13:22] <Utal> hi i want to work on mozilla can anyone tell me where to start on any project to start
- # [13:23] <Sander> Utal: have you seen https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/signup/ ?
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- # [13:24] <Utal> ya am looking for a new project to work on
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- # [15:18] <padenot> jandem-away: yes ?
- # [15:18] <jandem-away> padenot: hey, i was looking at crash-stats last week and i noticed you got some
- # [15:18] <jandem-away> padenot: is that right?
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- # [15:21] <padenot> jandem-away: don't know, you have a link ?
- # [15:22] <jandem-away> padenot: hm not offhand, also don't remember which branch. I think it crashed when using the debugger
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- # [15:23] <Ms2ger|docs> Hmm, I haven't run into MarcoZ yet
- # [15:23] <padenot> jandem-away: there are some crashes I know, but they are fixed in some branches
- # [15:23] <jandem-away> padenot: we have no leads so far so i'm grasping at straws ;)
- # [15:23] <padenot> jandem-away: any specific platform ?
- # [15:24] <jandem-away> padenot: don't think so; signature is EnterBaseline
- # [15:24] <jandem-away> padenot: thanks, i'm just looking for somebody with STR :)
- # [15:24] <padenot> how did you link it to me ? :-)
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- # [15:25] <jandem-away> i think it had your mail address, or name in the url, not sure
- # [15:25] <padenot> ahh
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- # [15:26] <padenot> ok I understand, I thought it was a crash in my code
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- # [15:26] <padenot> I usually put my mozilla email adress in crash reports for this reason, yeah
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- # [15:27] <padenot> but looking at about:crashes on this machine does not yield anything interesting, sorry
- # [15:28] <jandem-away> padenot: oops sorry, i realize that was confusing
- # [15:28] <jandem-away> padenot: thanks
- # [15:28] <padenot> I'll have a look on other machine, but I'm at FOSDEM atm, so I only have this laptop
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- # [15:42] <wkn> hello
- # [15:42] <Ms2ger|docs> padenot, where are you, btw?
- # [15:43] <padenot> Ms2ger|docs: performance track, in Janson, there is a guy from the CERN talking about a cool profiler
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- # [15:43] <Ms2ger|docs> About to head there
- # [15:43] <padenot> he actually used it on Firefox, and it has cool features, I want to give it a try
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- # [15:44] <wkn> i have a little problem by mach. When i run ./mach run fifefox don't launch but when i type in terminal firefox it launch whai is the problem ?
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- # [15:45] <padenot> heh, the guy on stage is thanking cjones for some reay
- # [15:46] <padenot> reason*
- # [15:46] <Ms2ger|docs> cjones does lots of cool stuff
- # [15:46] <padenot> yeah
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- # [15:54] <Ms2ger|janson> padenot, still here?
- # [15:55] * Ms2ger|janson wishes janson had power outlets
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- # [15:58] <Ms2ger|janson> I'll probably be off after this talk
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- # [16:00] <padenot> Ms2ger|janson: yep, I've spotted you
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- # [16:01] <Ms2ger|janson> padenot, now I just need to spot you back
- # [16:01] <padenot> we are a down the room, on the left with nical and bbouvier
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- # [16:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87f2bd784f41 - Tom Schuster - Bug 1127443 - Move some JS_NewObject callers to JS_NewObjectWithGiveProto
- # [16:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f806794d466 - Tom Schuster - Bug 1127443 - Remove JS_NewObject proto argument.
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- # [16:42] <Ms2ger|janson> padenot, sorry I ran, had to take a call
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- # [16:45] <Ms2ger|janson> smaug, still around?
- # [16:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a20a539ac610 - Victor Porof - Bug 1127472 - RecordingUtils.getSamplesFromAllocations should include the function name in the frames' location, r=jsantell
- # [16:45] <ttaubert|fosdem> yeah I can see him :P
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- # [16:46] <Ms2ger|janson> ttaubert|fosdem, oh, where?
- # [16:46] <ttaubert|fosdem> view from the stage... top left corner
- # [16:46] <ttaubert|fosdem> *viewed
- # [16:46] <Ms2ger|janson> Doh
- # [16:47] <Ms2ger|janson> Back to janson it is, then :)
- # [16:47] <ttaubert|fosdem> yeah
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- # [16:50] <Ms2ger|janson> Alright, coming by there as I'm leaving :)
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- # [18:05] <hodor> I am new to software development. Till now I have done only competative coding. I would love to start development with Mozilla. Any help would be appriciated
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- # [18:08] <till> hodor: welcome!
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- # [18:08] <till> hodor: a good place to start is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction
- # [18:08] <Archaeopteryx> hodor: hi, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction has an introduction and http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/ lets you choose bugs and filter them by programming language, project, and if the bug is owned
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- # [18:08] <Archaeopteryx> hodor is already there
- # [18:09] <till> heh
- # [18:09] <till> ah
- # [18:09] <hodor> I know c++, so what would be good for me to start with?
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- # [23:39] <kaie> in 2011 I created webm videos using ffmpeg, which at that time had worked fine in Firefox. They no longer work. Videos that I create today using ffmpeg don't play either.
- # [23:39] <kaie> Are you aware this broke?
- # [23:40] <kaie> e.g. http://video.fosdem.org/2011/devrooms/mozilla/mozilla_sun1300__fighting_i_o__hommey.webm
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- # [23:41] <kaie> in firefox 17 video works, but audio doesn't (audio works in latest ff) - strange world :-( --- I wish I knew ffmpeg settings that worked in all firefox versions, but cannot find good info
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- # [23:44] <kaie> please ignore my comments. Must be something with my addons. Videos work fine in Firefox 35 with a default profile.
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