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  1. # Session Start: Fri Feb 06 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
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  16. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92fc6e440ffd - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1087728: Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in dom/apps (r=fabrice)
  17. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a8c198546c1 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1087728: Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in dom/contacts (r=fabrice)
  18. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d6ad39d5da4 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1087728: Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in dom/settings (r=fabrice)
  19. # [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0836df4cbca8 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1087728: Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in dom/system (r=fabrice)
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  28. # [00:14] <mhenretty> does anyone know if padding-left should automatically become right padding when text-direction: start in RTL?
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  38. # [00:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/d4b2feba36ce - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  56. # [00:35] <fitzgen> mrbkap: ping
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  58. # [00:36] <fitzgen> mrbkap: does the xray machinery automatically re-wrap return values?
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  61. # [00:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4c7066e68109 - Richard Newman - Bug 1122024 - Bump configure.in minimum Android SDK version to 20. r=nalexander
  62. # [00:39] <seth> mhenretty: smontagu or jfkthame would know ^
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  65. # [00:40] <smontagu> mhenretty: no, left means left. We implement -moz-padding-start which is left or right depending on direction
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  70. # [00:42] <seth> data from my typos leads me to conclude that we should rename "typedef" to "typdef"
  71. # [00:42] <mhenretty> smontagu: ah, text-direction: start in RTL should not effect padding-left. i think it does, but im coming up with a reduced case
  72. # [00:43] <mhenretty> smontagu: what component would i file a bug for this, if i find this to be true?
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  74. # [00:43] <smontagu> mhenretty: I'm not sure what you mean by "text-direction: start in RTL"
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  76. # [00:43] <smontagu> mhenretty: layout: text with keyword rtl
  77. # [00:45] <mhenretty> smontagu: so, if my html element has the attribute dir="rtl", and i have an container with `text-direction: start`, then i've found that padding-left gets applied to the right side of that element
  78. # [00:45] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc73cd161c5d - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 1130192 - Make WebGL2 toggle pref a default pref. - r=kamidphish
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  82. # [00:48] <smontagu> mhenretty: that sounds wrong, but it's late here and I'm not sure I understand the case. Please file a bug and I'll look it at it.
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  85. # [00:50] <mhenretty> smontagu: what's the component for RTL issues?
  86. # [00:50] <smontagu> mhenretty: there may be default -moz-padding-start in html.css, depending on the element
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  88. # [00:51] <smontagu> mhenretty: layout or one of its subcomponents, plus "rtl" in the keyword field
  89. # [00:51] <mhenretty> smontagu: thank you!
  90. # [00:52] <smontagu> sorry, I need to go to sleep
  91. # [00:52] <smontagu> almost 2am
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  186. # [01:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=7c5f187b65bf - 60 changesets
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  189. # [02:01] <jld> The new `explicit operator bool` stuff doesn't work with gtest's `ASSERT_TRUE`. Sigh.
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  197. # [02:04] <seth> RyanVM|afk: in bug 1120397 you disabled the test, after i just pushed the fix mere hours before =)
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  201. # [02:07] <RyanVM|afk> seth: sorry, I'll try to work on honing my powers of telepathy for the future
  202. # [02:07] <RyanVM|afk> given the multitude of comments/deps that bug had
  203. # [02:07] <seth> RyanVM|afk: it's more unfortunate timing than anything
  204. # [02:08] <seth> RyanVM|afk: FWIW, the few hours between when the fix landed and when the test got disabled looked like we didn't hit it, so i'm cautiously optimistic that the fix worked
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  206. # [02:09] <@smaug> hmm, so gen_template.pl creates very different kind of template these days
  207. # [02:09] <seth> RyanVM|afk: oh, actually you pushed to inbound instead of directly to central, so there were a lot of hours between the two. nice, seems pretty likely this is fixed
  208. # [02:09] * @smaug wonders for what tests gen_template.pl is for these days
  209. # [02:10] <RyanVM|afk> seth: cool
  210. # [02:10] <@smaug> ah, testharness
  211. # [02:15] <seth> RyanVM|afk: so just so you know, i expect bug 1128225 (which already landed on central) and bug 1128769 (which is waiting on review) to resolve _all_ image-related test failures where we fail to paint the image
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  280. # [03:03] <Fallen> Now that libicu is in the tree, where is it actually used? I'd be interested in using a specific libicu function and I'm not sure where to look
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  286. # [03:06] <jcranmer> Fallen: Intl stuff in the JS engine
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  290. # [03:07] <Fallen> jcranmer: hrmpf. So there is a whole new library with lots of cool functions, and all I can use of it are things exposed by the js engine?
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  300. # [03:14] <Fallen> ok, I guess I need to fix core bugs then to make it available -.-
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  389. # [04:27] <dholbert> glob, should the IRC log URL in channel /topic here be corrected? (The URL in the topic right now, logbot.glob.com.au , seems to redirect to the logs.glob.uno URL that you gave me in #layout)
  390. # [04:28] <KWierso> philor: you called?
  391. # [04:29] <glob> dholbert, there's no harm using the old url, but the new one _is_ shorter :)
  392. # [04:29] <philor> KWierso: I was thinking that gaia+b-i ought to be closed since they killed their Dolphin with one of their external dependencies, but then I remembered I don't care how busted they get
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  498. # [05:35] <jya> padenot: can you point me to the fix for bug 1127845? Interested in the solution
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  504. # [05:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e0e812319eae - Mike Connor - Bug 1130246 - Treat general.useragent.locale as a localized pref in DirectoryProvider. r=rnewman
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  510. # [05:57] <seth> what do i use to specify linux in the reftest manifest? gtk2Widget?
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  513. # [05:59] <nigelb> morning
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  522. # [06:12] <&dbaron> seth, yes... although if there's actually another condition that's more correct, the idea is that in theory the conditions in the manifest would be the actual conditions related to the bug
  523. # [06:14] <seth> dbaron: thanks. not sure of a better thing to use in this case, i'm afraid
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  538. # [06:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/946346db74bb - Mark Capella - Bug 1128187 - Supply RTL for Caret-Handle, r=rnewman
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  543. # [06:43] <&dbaron> philor, might https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130268 be the cause of something you were complaining about a few weeks ago with reftest not doing timeouts or stacks correctly anymore?
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  550. # [06:45] <philor> dbaron: yeah, I'd call it a dup of bug 1125679, except for my hope that maybe arai will just fix it in the one he filed :)
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  552. # [06:47] <philor> can't believe I actually did look at it, without seeing process/proc
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  559. # [06:55] <philor> nice, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tables/crashtests/373400-2.html
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  561. # [06:55] <nigelb> woohoo
  562. # [06:56] <nigelb> I know where the b-i bustage started.
  563. # [06:56] <nigelb> unfortunately, it's not actually in b-i
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  565. # [06:57] <philor> okay, I'm horrified, 373400 was a crash print-previewing tinderbox
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  568. # [06:58] <seth> interesting to see what tinderbox used to look like
  569. # [06:58] <philor> interesting that we landed a crashtest for a 2007 crash print-previewing tinderbox in November 2014
  570. # [07:00] <philor> and mildly interesting that (comparing just two logs) it takes us 168 times as long to do that crashtest on 10.10 than on 10.8
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  572. # [07:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab30483ead66 - Maire Reavy - bug 1126952: tokbox.com added to screensharing whitelist r=jesup
  573. # [07:06] <philor> huh, it is pretty consistently awful, what does reftest-print actually do?
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  576. # [07:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1cd935b313d - Chris Peterson - Bug 1129336 - Remove nonstandard let blocks from testing/xpcshell. r=chmanchester
  577. # [07:08] <philor> ah, "layout vaguely similar to print-preview, other than the whole thing where we don't actually do print-preview on OS X"
  578. # [07:09] <philor> does it by any chance involve columns?
  579. # [07:09] <philor> since one of the other extremely slower things in https://bug1125998.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8557942 does, as does one of the crashtests I had to disable to let it make it through a run without timing out
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  587. # [07:19] <philor> odd that tabview, which I didn't have to disable on 10.10, is a heavy -moz-column user, but newtab, which I did disable, isn't
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  596. # [07:23] <philor> though nothing in reftest/columns/ takes any time to speak of
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  610. # [07:37] <anirudhgp> Hey guys I'm getting this error when i run hg pull -u : "pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central abort: error: ' '
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  635. # [07:54] <seth> why on earth is the build so slow on windows?
  636. # [07:54] <seth> i just don't understand
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  642. # [07:58] <Tomcat|afk> philor|away: heh ok starting on the bombs :)
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  645. # [08:01] <nigelb> morning Tomcat|sheriffduty
  646. # [08:01] <nigelb> the bustage on b-i is from an external source
  647. # [08:01] <nigelb> not sure how to fix that.
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  650. # [08:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hi nigelb
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  652. # [08:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: its handled now it seems
  653. # [08:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> from the bug
  654. # [08:03] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: "Ying, I think there is something wrong in 7715 kernel. Would you mind review and merge this patch into the kernel repo?"
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  656. # [08:04] <nigelb> aha
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  658. # [08:04] <nigelb> how'd you find the bug? :)
  659. # [08:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> and unless you changed names in the last 2 weeks you don't need to do something :))
  660. # [08:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: linked from the tree closure message :)
  661. # [08:04] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130255
  662. # [08:04] <nigelb> ahhh
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  680. # [08:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22e55c494296 - JW Wang - Bug 868866 - only stop delaying the load event when media fetch has stalled is MSE case. r=cpearce
  681. # [08:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb40dd420215 - Karsten Düsterloh - Bug 1116952 - "Treelines fragments after bug 1105104". r=jwatt
  682. # [08:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53767c427617 - Dhi Aurrahman - Bug 1125766 - Throw proper error types for TextEncoder(), TextDecoder() and TextDecoder.decode(). r=bz
  683. # [08:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0d94a34b607 - Ethan Lin - Bug 1127405 - Remove the ForceRemove in CanvasClientSharedSurface to prevent crash. r=nical
  684. # [08:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75b9cebe5268 - Garvan Keeley - Bug 1129696 - Added missing retain/release on NSTimer. r=dougt
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  703. # [08:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> baku|away: good morning ping (when you are back)
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  705. # [08:43] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> baku|away: need to backout bug 1130041 - this cause a bustage
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  779. # [09:53] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hmmm yeah
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  781. # [09:54] <bobowen> Oh there it is :)
  782. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: now its there
  783. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  784. # [09:55] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> but thats a huge delay
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  788. # [09:58] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> bobowen: filed bug 1130303
  789. # [09:58] <bobowen> Tomcat|sheriffduty: thanks
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  843. # [10:44] <freddyb> e.g. http://dpaste-bkero.paas.allizom.org/UXoY
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  915. # [11:44] <jgraham> glandium: Did I already ask about the interaction between git-remote-hg and bookmarks? Like it seems useful to be able to do something like git push remote HEAD:some_bookmark and have it create a bookmark called "some_bookmark". But afaict that doesn't work?
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  926. # [11:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/393838728c27 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1128229 - Add fuzzy annotations to CSS image tests that depend on imgFrame::Optimize. r=me
  927. # [11:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71bc716fc021 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1125490 (Part 1) - Make sure we request discarding for images in PresShell::Destroy. r=tn
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  936. # [11:57] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> nigelb: ok i need to head out have fun
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  954. # [12:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ad2c849f0be - Olli Pettay - Bug 1013743, MutationObserver should observe only the subtree it is attached to, r=wchen
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  966. # [12:31] <jkitch> LEGAL is interesting. Apparently Firefox is not guaranteed to be Y2k compliant. Hopefully the Year 2038 bug gets fixed sometime before 2138
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  987. # [12:54] <nigelb> ttaubert: I think you made that intermittent worse off...
  988. # [12:54] <nigelb> bc1 failures on fx-team on your push :(
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  990. # [12:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/126c486097a8 - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 1121558 - Remove message listener after test-success. r=smaug
  991. # [13:00] <nigelb> ah, it's already backed out :)
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  1021. # [13:34] <Gijs> nigelb: do you know how I can do a try push and force a particular branding?
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  1023. # [13:35] <nigelb> Gijs: no idea. Try is a mysterious world to me :)
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  1026. # [13:38] <Fallen> Gijs: can you set the branding in a mozconfig?
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  1029. # [13:40] <Fallen> Gijs: If so, then https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Using_a_custom_mozconfig
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  1032. # [13:45] <Gijs> Fallen: I think so... need to look at it some more :)
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  1035. # [13:46] <edmorley> Treeherder prod push occurring shortly - note: you'll likely need to refresh the page (shift-reload to be sure) since there has been a non-backwards compatible API change (adding push notifications in-app for this plus versioning the API is something we want, we just don;t have it yet)
  1036. # [13:46] <glandium> jgraham: pushing with custom refspec currently doesn't actually do anything. that's on my todo list, although i didn't file an issue for it ; feel free to file one
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  1038. # [13:47] <Fallen> Gijs: try --with-branding=path/to/branding in the mozconfig
  1039. # [13:47] <Fallen> ac_add_options of course
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  1044. # [13:50] * Gijs wonders if a relative path works there :s
  1045. # [13:50] <Fallen> I believe it should
  1046. # [13:51] <Fallen> Gijs: I think you can also use topsrcdir there somehow, I don't quite remember though
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  1048. # [13:52] <Fallen> Gijs: per http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/build/macosx/mozconfig.common#11 --with-branding=$topsrcdir/path/to/branding might work
  1049. # [13:54] <Gijs> Fallen: the interwebs had a bunch of relative paths in use, so I went with that - we'll see if it works :)
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  1057. # [14:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea4f0984b731 - Tooru Fujisawa - Bug 1130268 - Fix NameErrors in killAndGetStack in runreftest.py. r=ted.mielczarek
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  1075. # [14:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58804001cfe5 - Valentin Gosu - Bug 1120216 - Add telemetry for how often URLs contain !/ or !// or end with a ! r=mcmanus
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  1096. # [14:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=03b0004eba32 - 19 changesets
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  1099. # [14:54] <RyanVM> smaug: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6345603&repo=mozilla-inbound
  1100. # [14:54] <RyanVM> looks like yours
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  1102. # [14:54] <@smaug> bah
  1103. # [14:55] * RyanVM is now known as RyanVM|sheriffduty
  1104. # [14:55] <@smaug> just a sec...
  1105. # [14:55] <@smaug> I can't find the assertion..
  1106. # [14:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> scroll up
  1107. # [14:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mCurrentTarget yadda yadda
  1108. # [14:55] <@smaug> ah, there
  1109. # [14:56] <@smaug> ah, I can remove that
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  1111. # [14:56] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it kind of tells the patch should actually work to fix the crashes
  1112. # [14:56] <@smaug> landing a fix
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  1114. # [14:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: Gij(10) looks angry too
  1115. # [14:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6345021&repo=mozilla-inbound
  1116. # [14:57] <@smaug> what is Gij
  1117. # [14:57] <jdm> Gijs always looks angry
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  1119. # [14:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Gaia JS integration tests
  1120. # [14:57] * TheOne has seen Gijs not looking angry
  1121. # [14:57] <@smaug> I have no idea what that is about
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  1123. # [14:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well, it's 0/2 with the same failure since your push
  1124. # [14:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> there's a screenshot in the log if it helps
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  1129. # [15:00] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do we not have that in tryserver?
  1130. # [15:00] <@smaug> Gij
  1131. # [15:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> try: -b o -p linux64_gecko -u gaia-integration -t none
  1132. # [15:00] <@smaug> hmm
  1133. # [15:00] <@smaug> actually
  1134. # [15:00] <@smaug> is that from mutationobserver stuff
  1135. # [15:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they were unhidden yesterday, though
  1136. # [15:00] <@smaug> do they rely on the broken behavior which I'm fixing
  1137. # [15:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> did you do an all run on Try by chance?
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  1140. # [15:01] <@smaug> yes
  1141. # [15:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> link? :)
  1142. # [15:02] <@smaug> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d1832ae50f88 was the try: -a
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  1145. # [15:02] <@smaug> (and I then fixed the M1 test failure)
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  1147. # [15:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yep, same failures there
  1148. # [15:02] <@smaug> er, wait, M1 was just about pushing from broken m-i tree
  1149. # [15:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | apps/verticalhome/test/marionette/localization_test.js | Vertical - Localization Menu option localization
  1150. # [15:03] <@smaug> oh
  1151. # [15:03] <@smaug> could you back out pretty please
  1152. # [15:03] <@smaug> and sorry
  1153. # [15:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
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  1155. # [15:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you working on the assertion fix still?
  1156. # [15:03] <@smaug> not right now then
  1157. # [15:04] <froydnj> this tree status widget in mah browser is win
  1158. # [15:04] <@smaug> whaat, where is localization_test.js?
  1159. # [15:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gaia repo
  1160. # [15:04] * @smaug has no idea who to blame about it
  1161. # [15:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: you can mxr it too
  1162. # [15:04] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4cff6f1458dd - Jordan Santell - Bug 1128859 - Memory allocation views are only enabled if 'enable-memory' preference is on. r=vp
  1163. # [15:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://mxr.mozilla.org/gaia/find?text=&string=localization_test.js
  1164. # [15:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/commits/master/apps/verticalhome/test/marionette/localization_test.js
  1165. # [15:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> luckily for you, kgrandon is a good person to blame :)
  1166. # [15:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: 6c11024ebd04 (bug 1126851) is OK to leave in?
  1167. # [15:06] <@smaug> yes
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  1172. # [15:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4ea9b9f29e9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 900bd9173e8f (bug 676470) for mochitest-other asserts.
  1173. # [15:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: I'm CCing kgrandon to your bug
  1174. # [15:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> he'll be able to help
  1175. # [15:09] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I did ni him
  1176. # [15:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ah, i see
  1177. # [15:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=17ad80d79824 - 41 changesets
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  1222. # [15:45] <edmorley> Treeherder's production push has been reverted due to some regressions, you'll likely need to force refresh the UI to pick up the rolled-back assets. Sorry for the churn! :-)
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  1231. # [15:48] <froydnj> yo, I heard you like herding changes into trees, so I herded some changes into treeherder...
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  1233. # [15:48] <edmorley> heh :-)
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  1255. # [16:01] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f918335d622 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1128229 - Add more fuzz on Win8.
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  1279. # [16:32] <avih> RyanVM|sheriffduty: inbound is still closed, right?
  1280. # [16:32] <avih> (this is what treeherder says)
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  1287. # [16:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> avih: yeah, just trying to sort out one issue w/ it quick
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  1294. # [16:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d365bfd24986 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1128229 - Add a bit more fuzz to image-object-position-with-background-2.html on Windows.
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  1299. # [16:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> avih: open, sorry for the wait
  1300. # [16:42] <avih> thx
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  1305. # [16:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b2845351442 - Avi Halachmi - Bug 1120650: add telemetry probe for slow script notices. r=vladan, r=billm
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  1307. # [16:45] <rnewman> lsblakk, Sylvestre: either of you around?
  1308. # [16:45] <Sylvestre> rnewman, more or less :)
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  1311. # [16:45] <rnewman> Sylvestre: I just sent a mail to release-drivers; it's pretty urgent re 35.0.1
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  1313. # [16:45] <rnewman> take a look?
  1314. # [16:46] <Sylvestre> rnewman, sure. lsblakk I am doing it for you
  1315. # [16:46] <rnewman> ta
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  1317. # [16:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3054048c724b - Tom Schuster - Bug 1124935 - Remove LookupProperty from JS_GetPropertyDescriptor. r=efaust,bz
  1318. # [16:46] <Sylvestre> rnewman, how does it work ? (x86 using arm apk)
  1319. # [16:47] <rnewman> it uses a translation layer called Houdini, which crashes for us
  1320. # [16:47] <rnewman> so we can never deploy a new ARMv7 APK without a new x86 APK
  1321. # [16:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d7317e09ea1 - Patrick McManus - bug 1129571 - h2/spdy coalsescing by full DNS rrset r=hurley
  1322. # [16:47] <rnewman> but it means that most x86 devices claim to be both x86 and ARM, so they use whichever APK has the highest version code... which in this case is ARM
  1323. # [16:48] <rnewman> because 35.0.1 is higher than the 35.0 x86 APK
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  1328. # [16:49] <Sylvestre> ok
  1329. # [16:50] <Sylvestre> we should document that somewhere, I don't think anybody in the r-d team knew that :)
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  1333. # [16:51] <rnewman> it's in a lot of people's heads, and the Store gives a warning, but yes, it should be written in big red letters :D
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  1335. # [16:52] <rnewman> I see fixed in Play; thanks, Sylvestre!
  1336. # [16:52] <Sylvestre> lsblakk did it :) my upload is too slow at home
  1337. # [16:53] <rnewman> phew
  1338. # [16:53] <lsblakk> rnewman: the warning it gives *is* in big red letters but it always does that when we upload them one at a time and i've never read them because, habit
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  1340. # [16:53] <lsblakk> it wouldn't occur to me that it was any different when not uploading the second apk, tbh
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  1342. # [16:54] <rnewman> yeah, no personal blame here
  1343. # [16:54] <rnewman> it happens
  1344. # [16:54] <rnewman> thanks for jumping on it!
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  1347. # [16:58] <avih> RyanVM|sheriffduty: does inbound build each commit individually??
  1348. # [16:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> each *push*
  1349. # [16:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> not every commit within it
  1350. # [16:58] <avih> yeah, sorry. hmm
  1351. # [16:59] <avih> still.. that's tons of build time...
  1352. # [16:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yup
  1353. # [16:59] <avih> and test time
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  1356. # [16:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> avih: that's reason we try to land checkin-needed in batches
  1357. # [16:59] <avih> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you got few mins to discuss this?
  1358. # [16:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no
  1359. # [17:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> avih: FWIW, there are a lot of 2015 ateam projects centered around all that
  1360. # [17:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jmaher ^
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  1362. # [17:00] <avih> hmm.. so you prefer that people flag checkin-needed rather than push themselves?
  1363. # [17:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm saying that we're willing to do so if you want
  1364. # [17:00] <avih> yeah, i was about to ping joel as well :)
  1365. # [17:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm not going to tell you not to push if you want to :P
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  1367. # [17:01] <avih> well.. it sounds to me like you prefer to push in batches
  1368. # [17:01] <avih> and i guess most people won't mind
  1369. # [17:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'm saying it helps alleviate that situation you brought up :)
  1370. # [17:02] <jmaher> avih: what is your specific issue? wanting builds per revision or to reduce general overhead?
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  1374. # [17:02] <avih> jmaher: i don't have a specific issue, but i know that the infrastructure is many times very loaded, and now that i realized each push bets individually built and tested, i understand where much of the issue comes from.
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  1376. # [17:03] <jmaher> avih: can I get your feedback on something related? pm
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  1378. # [17:03] <avih> sure
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  1386. # [17:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c38494a6e429 - Olli Pettay - Bug 676470, ensure null-checking mCurrentTarget actually works, r=masayuki
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  1401. # [17:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e23d1b5c00d6 - James Graham - Bug 1124181 - Store local base SHA1 of last web-platform-tests update explicitly, r=ahal
  1402. # [17:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: thanks for jumping on that so fast btw :) ^
  1403. # [17:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bfcb81d3716 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1129226 - Refactor ObjectGroup class and accessors, r=jandem.
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  1408. # [17:18] <@smaug> I should have realized that the assertion might now actually fire
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  1416. # [17:22] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: does tbpl or treeherder have some UI to show only failures?
  1417. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: yes
  1418. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hit 'u'
  1419. # [17:22] <@smaug> tbpl or treeherder?
  1420. # [17:22] <@smaug> or both
  1421. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (you can also use the filters dropdown, but that's the keyboard shortcut)
  1422. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> both
  1423. # [17:22] <@smaug> thanks
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  1425. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> np
  1426. # [17:22] <@smaug> very useful
  1427. # [17:22] <jaws> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so does this mean that i can reland that patch?
  1428. # [17:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes, there's no way we were using TH without it :P
  1429. # [17:23] <jaws> it got backed out because of that intermittent
  1430. # [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jaws: because of a one-off?
  1431. # [17:23] <Standard8> hmm I’m getting: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/pash.log'
  1432. # [17:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you were hitting it on every push
  1433. # [17:23] <Standard8> when trying to push to hg
  1434. # [17:23] <jaws> oh :(
  1435. # [17:23] <Standard8> (comm-beta)
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  1438. # [17:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d211cebe7fc - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1130129 - Better handle a case where the APZ hit-test disagrees with the main-thread hit-test results. r=botond
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  1442. # [17:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e4c5f10c3fa - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1128989 - part 1 - define Telemetry::ID as a uint32_t; r=gfritzsche
  1443. # [17:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc8589ba0c6c - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1128989 - part 2 - forward-declare Telemetry::ID in Decoder.h; r=seth
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  1445. # [17:26] <Standard8> hmm, it worked now
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  1471. # [17:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4232dc24dc1 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 1128648 - Remove fretting about DynamicWithObject in Shape::set. r=efaust.
  1472. # [17:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/935446ec6fb9 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 1128732 - Simplify js::DefineProperties. r=efaust.
  1473. # [17:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a57942c2341c - Jason Orendorff - Bug 1129275 - Remove extra js::SetProperty template. r=efaust.
  1474. # [17:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94706b20cc41 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 1129271 - Follow-up fix to bug 1125930 for GDB support. r=jandem.
  1475. # [17:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=d14b8770825d - 48 changesets
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  1480. # [17:39] <froydnj> whoa, builds seem very behind today
  1481. # [17:39] <froydnj> ...or maybe there's just a lot of stuff being pushed
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  1492. # [17:42] <philor> yeah, 13 pushes an hour is more than we can actually manage, even without a nice tree closure to make it start from a standing stop
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  1497. # [17:43] <philor> start with the black number in the "Pool status"column of https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/jacuzzis.html for the mozilla-inbound rows, that's how many we could have running at once, except that some jacuzzis actually have slaves shared between two
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  1504. # [17:46] <bobowen> is it possible to ignore errors from the Linux Static Checking Build for third party code?
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  1514. # [17:51] <lmandel> jorendorff: Bug 1113980 is tracked for 37 and waiting on you to review the approach (comment 9). Do you have some time to look at the bug today?
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  1543. # [18:03] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73b8ce222f9f - Nicolas Silva - Bug 1129360 - backout the part of the patch from bug 1127289 that causes intermittent r14 failures on the emulator. r=me
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  1555. # [18:10] <sheppy> Web APIs docs meeting starts in 50 minutes; see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2015-01-06 for agenda (please add to this!) and how to join. Ignore that the URL claims this meeting is in January. :)
  1556. # [18:11] <sheppy> Everyone interested in APIs and ensuring that people know how to use them is welcome to join us.
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  1567. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4414e9d0b66b - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 0: Define RootedGlobalObject in gc/Rooting.h instead of jsscript.cpp; r=jandem
  1568. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f996950fb2f - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 1: Make js::SavedFrame have a cached prototype and use js::ClassSpec; r=jandem
  1569. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86421767cd26 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 2: SavedFrame accessors should always check principals. r=jandem
  1570. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccf6dfe1ac75 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 3: Don't skip subsumes checks when principals are null; r=jimb
  1571. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/442d41779bd8 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 4: SavedFrame::checkThis should unwrap the this value; r=jimb
  1572. # [18:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3f8122dd990 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1117242 - Part 5: Implement xray support for SavedFrame; r=bholley
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  1608. # [18:26] <jorendorff> lmandel: i'll look now
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  1617. # [18:30] <jdm> is gcc 4.9 a supported compiler?
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  1626. # [18:32] <@ted> jdm: depends on your definition of "supported"
  1627. # [18:32] <@ted> will it work flawlessly out of the box? probably not
  1628. # [18:33] <@ted> will we take patches to fix problems with it? sure
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  1634. # [18:34] <jdm> ted: does http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8584054 ring any bells?
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  1636. # [18:34] <jdm> ted: specifically around line 590
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  1639. # [18:34] <@ted> internal compiler errors
  1640. # [18:34] <@ted> fun
  1641. # [18:35] <@ted> "your compiler is broken"
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  1643. # [18:35] <@ted> that's from #introduction?
  1644. # [18:35] <jdm> ted: yep
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  1652. # [18:39] <hub> I build Firefox on 4.9.2 all the time.
  1653. # [18:40] <hub> but then wtf is "g++-4.9.real"
  1654. # [18:40] <hub> jdm: ^^^
  1655. # [18:40] <jdm> shrug!
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  1662. # [18:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/47a93c546ccf - Mark Hammond - From d862c81fab969e7443a651f2fe28b4feda461c94 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
  1663. # [18:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/06736b6f84c5 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 1120716 - Offer "learn more" links in the legacy-Sync-to-FxA migration UI. r=markh,Unfocused a=gavin
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  1679. # [18:55] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f92dc4510bf - Andrew McCreight - Bug 1125005 - Change the reentrance assertion in IncrementalFinalizeRunnable to a warning. r=smaug
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  1683. # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6354924&repo=mozilla-inbound
  1684. # [18:56] * killer sets mode: +o not_gavin
  1685. # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bfcb81d3716
  1686. # [18:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> is that real leakage or whitelist changes needed?
  1687. # [18:57] <mccr8> hmm probably the latter though I'm not sure offhand.
  1688. # [18:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> of course he's not on IRC :\
  1689. # [18:57] <mccr8> yeah it is
  1690. # [18:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/f8c1c4e16b21 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 1128765 - Add memory reporter for D3D9 shared texture usage. r=mattwoodrow a=lmandel
  1691. # [18:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/454d1d1a58bd - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1128765 - Add more reporters to break down D3D9 texture usage. r=jrmuizel a=lmandel
  1692. # [18:58] <mccr8> I'll write a patch
  1693. # [18:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ty
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  1700. # [19:01] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: want to rubber stamp this? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8584677
  1701. # [19:01] * RyanVM|sheriffduty will totally take your word for it
  1702. # [19:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> rs=me
  1703. # [19:01] <lmandel> seth: For bug 1128188, Jeff is traveling this week. Is there someone else who can do the review for you?
  1704. # [19:01] <mccr8> hah ok.
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  1726. # [19:11] <ato> gerv: With regards to, how do new contributors “assent” to it? http://blog.gerv.net/2015/02/signed-committers-agreements-no-longer-required/
  1727. # [19:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74052b081fed - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1127882 - Fix Promise include.
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  1763. # [19:26] <tromey> anybody else seeing: ../../../../../../dist/include/mozilla/Assertions.h:140: error: undefined reference to 'nsTraceRefcnt::WalkTheStack(_IO_FILE*)'
  1764. # [19:26] <tromey> (on git master)
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  1768. # [19:26] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71c769cf61bb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 73b8ce222f9f (bug 1129360) for Android reftest failures.
  1769. # [19:26] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37321f61780e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8a49d4f4bb25 (bug 1127289) for frequent B2G reftest failures.
  1770. # [19:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fitzgen: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6356920&repo=mozilla-inbound
  1771. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fitzgen: inbound's closed for a fix or backout
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  1815. # [19:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: any suggestions for who I might usefully ni? on bug 1120751?
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  1818. # [19:51] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: bent probably
  1819. # [19:51] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2b2130aec3cd - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1128523 - Don't alter reading list table if it was created with the new schema in an earlier migration. r=rnewman
  1820. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hah, funny story about that
  1821. # [19:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> he already "Not me!"ed it
  1822. # [19:52] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well he said it was IPC, but bent it also an IPC person. ;)
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  1824. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> maybe I'll just let overholt decide
  1825. # [19:52] <froydnj> delegation: a necessary talent for sheriffs everywhere
  1826. # [19:52] <bent> thankfully we have several ipc people :)
  1827. # [19:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> more than I wish I had to...
  1828. # [19:53] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you know who could look at the super huge dev tools leak? that's kind of scary
  1829. # [19:53] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it is recentish so I'm hoping somebody might remember something that could be at fault...
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  1832. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: I was going to try to see if I could find a rough regression range on that
  1833. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> on fx-team, it looks like it started after a merge
  1834. # [19:53] <mccr8> cool
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  1836. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so I think it originated elsewhere
  1837. # [19:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I've been swamped today, sorry
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  1839. # [19:53] <mccr8> np.
  1840. # [19:53] <overholt> RyanVM|sheriffduty, yeah, bent, dvander, and bsmedberg are all IPC peers
  1841. # [19:54] <mccr8> Yeah I didn't see any changes to that particular dev tool that is leaking
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  1843. # [19:55] <anirudhgp> Hello :)
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  1846. # [19:55] <anirudhgp> I needed help with something
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  1848. # [19:55] <nalexander> anirudhgp: just ask, if anybody can help they will respond.
  1849. # [19:55] <anirudhgp> When i run hg pull -u i get this : pulling from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central abort: error: ' '
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  1851. # [19:56] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: oh gee look, the first instance in the new spike was on inbound
  1852. # [19:56] <anirudhgp> I've been doing it from many months now and it was working all this while
  1853. # [19:56] <nalexander> anirudhgp: can you ask again in #vcs?
  1854. # [19:56] <nalexander> anirudhgp: I wonder if you are seeing an hg version mismatch.
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  1858. # [19:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: 10.8 only is useful
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  1862. # [19:57] <anirudhgp> @nalexander I'll ask on #vcs
  1863. # [19:58] <anirudhgp> Thanks!
  1864. # [19:58] <anirudhgp> But it's wierd though. All of a sudden it started
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  1868. # [19:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: here's the first instance and a chunk of pushes prior - https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound&fromchange=70988272766a&tochange=8d8a696af76a&filter-searchStr=Rev5 MacOSX Mountain Lion 10.8 mozilla-inbound debug test mochitest-devtools-chrome-2
  1869. # [19:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bholley looks maybe-interesting?
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  1871. # [20:00] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah that is talking about chrome wrappers so it is certainly possiblew
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  1874. # [20:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dt2 runs fast enough that I think we can probably retrigger our way to victory here
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  1877. # [20:01] <mccr8> that's nice. yeah doing this for those test suites that take hours is not good
  1878. # [20:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i'll do the retriggers
  1879. # [20:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> feel free to keep an eye on them too
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  1888. # [20:09] <botond> dholbert: hi :)
  1889. # [20:09] <dholbert> botond: hi!
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  1892. # [20:09] <botond> dholbert: question about refcounting (trying to fix a static assert about private destructors)
  1893. # [20:10] <dholbert> botond, ok
  1894. # [20:10] <botond> dholbert: in an abstract base class, which macro should i use to declare AddRef/Release?
  1895. # [20:10] <dholbert> botond, so IIRC you have two options:
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  1900. # [20:11] <dholbert> botond: (1) just *implement* addref and release in the abstract base class (with a macro whose name I forget, something like NS_IMPL_REFCOUNTING)
  1901. # [20:12] <dholbert> botond, or (2) just declare them in the abstract base class, and I'm not sure if we have a macro for that
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  1903. # [20:12] <dholbert> botond, though if you're declaring them there, you'd presumably be declaring them as 'virtual', which would mean refcounting would be slow
  1904. # [20:12] <botond> dholbert: (1) is what i tried, with the macro being NS_INLINE_DECL_REFCOUNTING
  1905. # [20:13] <botond> dholbert: however, i get an error in the concrete derived class, saying that it cannot define the destructor because the base destructor is private
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  1907. # [20:13] <dholbert> botond, and you can't make the base destructor protected?
  1908. # [20:15] <botond> dholbert: doh, i can indeed!
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  1910. # [20:15] <dholbert> botond, cool. :) you better be sure it's also virtual, though
  1911. # [20:16] <dholbert> botond, (the destructor)
  1912. # [20:16] <botond> dholbert: (for some reason, i misread the "Reference-counted class should not have a public destructor" error as "Reference-counted class should have a private destructor" and thought protected wasn't allowed either
  1913. # [20:16] <dholbert> botond, (because if you're defining these on the base class, then they'll presumably be run on pointers of the type of the base class, and they'll need a virtual destructor to clean up the derived class)
  1914. # [20:16] <botond> dholbert: definitely! (on the virtual thing)
  1915. # [20:17] <dholbert> botond, cool
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  1917. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3d5548f9d755 - Victor Porof - Bug 1130270 - Waterfall view doesn't need to be cleared when a recording is started in the new performance tool, r=jsantell
  1918. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/f9153e3f838a - Victor Porof - Bug 1130272 - OverviewView._onGraphSelecting doesn't need to check if a recording is available, r=jsantell
  1919. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8d3c74818606 - Victor Porof - Bug 1130273 - PerformanceView._onClearButtonClick listener is never removed from _clearButton, r=jsantell
  1920. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e4ed2f7b72c5 - Victor Porof - Bug 1130274 - JS and Memory flame graphs get rerendered but don't actually change when prefs are modified, r=jsantell
  1921. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/44685f89442c - Victor Porof - Bug 1130278 - The 'show-platform-data' pref is irrelevant for memory call trees, r=jsantell
  1922. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bfc3a426a823 - Victor Porof - Bug 1130276 - Add an 'invert flame graph' option to go along with 'invert call tree', r=jsantell
  1923. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/dee2c8135242 - Victor Porof - Bug 1121192 - Mouse events sometimes don't fire in the canvas graphs, r=jsantell
  1924. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f4b698252699 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 4 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  1925. # [20:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/74a500037d38 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  1927. # [20:18] <botond> dholbert: thanks :)
  1928. # [20:18] <dholbert> botond, np
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  1939. # [20:24] <@smaug> qDot: I think I've asked before... what kind of latency do you get for midi
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  1941. # [20:25] <@smaug> well, midi input, web audio output
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  1945. # [20:27] <qDot> smaug: That's gonna be a really interesting question to answer.
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  1948. # [20:28] <qDot> smaug: Right now, only answer I've got is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Gonna be dependent on the IPC system. Though talked about MIDI in workers with google people yesterday.
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  1951. # [20:32] <@smaug> midi + audio in workers would make so much sense
  1952. # [20:32] <@smaug> well, perhaps midi input in one worker, and audio synthesizing in other workers
  1953. # [20:32] <@smaug> (and then DAW UI in the main thread)
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  1955. # [20:35] <qDot> smaug: Yup, that's exactly what we discussed.
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  1957. # [20:35] <qDot> smaug: For MIDI, it shouldn't be too bad. WebAudio, well, there's some spec work happening.
  1958. # [20:35] * aklotz|interview is now known as aklotz
  1959. # [20:37] * qDot got a lot to learn here. Wheee.
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  1964. # [20:38] <mhoye> What category should crash reporter feature requests go in?
  1965. # [20:38] <@smaug> qDot: do you know if any daw manufacture is active on the speccing?
  1966. # [20:38] <@ted> mhoye: Toolkit: Breakpad Integration
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  1968. # [20:38] <@ted> unless it's firefox UI or something
  1969. # [20:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aa5f8d47a0ba - Jeff Gilbert - Backout 80a88a3badba for causing bug 1130086.
  1970. # [20:39] <mhoye> Probably Firefox UI, if it's a tossup. I want to add "refresh firefox" to the list of options there.
  1971. # [20:39] <@ted> to the crash reporter dialog?
  1972. # [20:39] <qDot> smaug: Not aware of any at the moment. Most of the talk so far has been with hardware manufacturers.
  1973. # [20:39] <qDot> smaug: It's probably a conversation that should get started soon though.
  1974. # [20:40] <mhoye> ted: yeah, why not?
  1975. # [20:40] * qDot has a few starting points there, just wanted to actually get into the project before starting that though since this is like his 4th time trying to do this and he's worried about getting pulled off.
  1976. # [20:40] <@ted> well, in terms of technical reasons i'm crying on the inside, but sure, no objections otherwise
  1977. # [20:41] <mhoye> Somebody's firefox crashes, we should be making a good faith effort to help them at that moment.
  1978. # [20:41] * Callek|mtg is now known as Callek
  1979. # [20:41] <mhoye> Technical reasons?
  1980. # [20:41] <@ted> it's just a PITA, that's all
  1981. # [20:41] <@ted> like everything about crash reporting
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  1983. # [20:41] <@ted> don't let me stop you from filing your bug :)
  1984. # [20:41] <mhoye> Oh, well then.
  1985. # [20:42] <@ted> sorry, my initial query was just clarification
  1986. # [20:42] <@ted> not questioning your intent
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  1989. # [20:44] <mwargers> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ping? Do you happen to know if we have tinderbox builds for b2g desktop/b2g emulator? I would like to try out the crash in bug 1130086
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  1991. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yes, via pvtbuilds
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  1994. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well, b2g desktop is on the ftp like any other build
  1995. # [20:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> b2g emulator pvtbuilds
  1996. # [20:45] <mwargers> I was looking there: https://pvtbuilds.mozilla.org/pvt/mozilla.org/b2g/
  1997. # [20:45] <mwargers> I couldn't find them
  1998. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mwargers: https://pvtbuilds.mozilla.org/pvt/mozilla.org/b2gotoro/tinderbox-builds/
  1999. # [20:46] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nobody said the directory names had to make sense ;)
  2000. # [20:47] <mwargers> RyanVM|sheriffduty: but I only see builds for the various devices (flame, dolphin, etc), not for b2g desktop. Or I'm overlooking those?
  2001. # [20:47] * armenzg_brb is now known as armenzg
  2002. # [20:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> b2g desktop should be on the regular ftp
  2003. # [20:47] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> like I said
  2004. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they don't have anything proprietary in them
  2005. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/b2g-inbound-linux64_gecko/1423245153/
  2006. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/b2g-inbound-linux64_gecko/1423245153/b2g-38.0a1.multi.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
  2007. # [20:48] <mwargers> ah, I see, thanks!
  2008. # [20:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> not sure WTH the emulator builds are, though
  2009. # [20:49] <@ted> um
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  2011. # [20:49] <@ted> http://pvtbuilds.pvt.build.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-emulator/
  2012. # [20:49] * @ted has had to find them before
  2013. # [20:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> apparently they don't upload to the non-build.m.o mirror :\
  2014. # [20:50] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> like device images
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  2017. # [20:52] <mwargers> ted, thanks!
  2018. # [20:53] * davidb_ is now known as davidb
  2019. # [20:54] <mwargers> ted, do you happen to know if we run reftests and mochitests on tinderbox builds on b2g desktop and b2g emulator?
  2020. # [20:55] <@ted> um
  2021. # [20:55] <@ted> i don't, no
  2022. # [20:55] <@ted> beyond what you can find on treeherder
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  2026. # [20:57] <mwargers> ok, thanks
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  2028. # [20:57] <qDot> mwargers: Yeah we do.
  2029. # [20:58] <mwargers> qDot: ok, thanks. Do you know where the results are posted?
  2030. # [20:58] <mwargers> I can't seem to find it on treeherder
  2031. # [20:58] * davidb is now known as davidb|afk
  2032. # [20:59] <qDot> Oh, wait, we only run a subset of mochis and reftests on desktop. Emulator, we run both on ICS opt.
  2033. # [20:59] <qDot> Should just be the usual M() and R()?
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  2035. # [21:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ecfc90f3adec - Florian Quèze - Bug 1126816 - A search started before the search panel opens goes to the previously selected one-off engine. r=Mossop, a=gavin
  2036. # [21:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/4a1dcf78c799 - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 1127237 - Text from history panel is not entirely displayed. r=liuche, a=lmandel
  2037. # [21:00] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/85477b7fa1d6 - Mike Connor - Bug 958874 - Use HTTPS for Bing search. r=gavin, a=lmandel
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  2039. # [21:01] <nemo> heh. my friend has spent half an hour struggling to get up to date correct java plugin running in Firefox
  2040. # [21:02] <nemo> in the end, his problem was 32 bit java vs 64 bit, and firefox still being 32 bit
  2041. # [21:02] <nemo> I thought that was ironic, given Firefox is still 32 bit on windows, due to plugins, allegedly )
  2042. # [21:02] <nemo> ☺
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  2044. # [21:04] <nbp> Sometimes I crawl the web and find mysterious websites: http://geeks.geekgrade.com/companies/
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  2047. # [21:07] <skeuomorf> nbp: heh https://geekgrade.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202462196-What-is-Geek-Grade-
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  2060. # [21:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/f9f464a55ac3 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1078275 - Ensure the first transaction received in the compositor is treated as a first-paint. r=mstange
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  2064. # [21:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nemo: you do realize that win64 builds are coming RSN?
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  2066. # [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: looks like we've got ourselves a range
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  2068. # [21:23] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yeah...
  2069. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: i'm filling in the 3 revs now
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  2072. # [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: once we've got in narrowed down to a push, can you please take it from there?
  2073. # [21:25] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: you mean haranguing people? sure
  2074. # [21:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, thanks
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  2082. # [21:33] <mwargers> qDot: but something like https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-central is only for regular mozilla-central, no?
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  2108. # [21:47] <bent> um, i can't attach patches and request review anymore
  2109. # [21:48] <nalexander> bent: mfbt!
  2110. # [21:48] <bent> bugzilla says "You must provide a reviewer for review requests."
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  2112. # [21:48] <bent> which... i... did...
  2113. # [21:48] <bent> over and over
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  2115. # [21:48] <fabrice> lol
  2116. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seth: darn it seth, missed you'd already fuzzed that one earlier :(
  2117. # [21:48] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seth: oh well, at least I got the Windows ones
  2118. # [21:49] <fabrice> bent: you need to do all your reviews first
  2119. # [21:49] <fabrice> then you can ask some from other people
  2120. # [21:49] <seth> RyanVM|sheriffduty: unfortunately the behavior is nondeterministic =( i tried to catch them all with try jobs but i still missed some
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  2122. # [21:49] <froydnj> fabrice++
  2123. # [21:49] <seth> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks for fuzzing those windows one!
  2124. # [21:49] <seth> *ones
  2125. # [21:49] <bent> hrm, something about security groups
  2126. # [21:49] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> seth: np, seemed like the right thing to do
  2127. # [21:49] <bent> " You asked Jan Varga [:janv] <Jan.Varga@gmail.com> for review on bug 1130541, attachment 8560657, but that bug has been restricted to users in certain groups, and the user you asked isn't in all the groups to which the bug has been restricted. Please choose someone else to ask, or make the bug accessible to users on its CC: list and add that user to the list."
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  2129. # [21:50] <fabrice> bent: ha yes, cc him first
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  2131. # [21:50] <fabrice> stoopid bugzilla
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  2134. # [21:53] <@ted> developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/MacOSX/
  2135. # [21:53] <@ted> *sigh*
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  2138. # [21:53] <mwargers> kats, ping? I was looking into bug 1130086. I guess it's sad that it wasn't caught by treeherder mochitests or reftests. I guess it was a device only crash?
  2139. # [21:54] <kats> mwargers: i'm not sure. based on the stack gwagner posted it looks like it would happen in emulator too, but we probably don't have anything that exercises that code path
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  2143. # [21:56] <mwargers> kats, ok, I'm currently trying out an b2g emulator build with the offending patch, but I'm stuck on a black screen on startup
  2144. # [21:56] <mwargers> oh wait, apparently, it didn't start up yet
  2145. # [21:56] <mwargers> wow, so slow
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  2163. # [22:05] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no actually!
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  2165. # [22:06] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do the builds exist somewhere he could use? I was just recommending he try nightly.
  2166. # [22:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nemo: we're building on 36+ at this point. IIRC, plan is to have 37 shipping official betas, and 38 for the official release
  2167. # [22:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d87dc37c707 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 1127289 - Add missing synchronization in TiledContentClient with DrawTargetTiled. r=sotaro
  2168. # [22:06] <mwargers> kats, ok, managed to crash in b2g emulator. So I guess existing mochitests/reftests don't catch this indeed. I'm afraid it's really hard to get a minimized testcase
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  2171. # [22:07] <kats> mwargers: yeah i can imagine. jgilbert might be able to make one based on what's actually going on
  2172. # [22:07] <mwargers> perhaps it would be good if crashtests would also run on b2g?
  2173. # [22:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they run in the emulator
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  2175. # [22:08] <mwargers> oops, yes, they do run in the emulator
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  2178. # [22:09] <mwargers> ok, I'll let jgilbert figure it out further, then
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  2183. # [22:12] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hm. 'k...
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  2188. # [22:13] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: so, there's a «stable» 64 bit of windows, somewhere. that is, off the stable branch, but you guys doing it. on ftp.mozilla.org ?
  2189. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yup
  2190. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's publicly viewable, go look ;)
  2191. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you could also look at treeherder
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  2196. # [22:16] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: cool, cool. In the past I'd often looked for exactly that, but gave up hope and stopped checking
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  2198. # [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nemo: see also bug 558448 and the dep activity
  2199. # [22:17] <nemo> hmmm where is it anyway?
  2200. # [22:17] <nemo> poking blindly around ftp.mozilla.org
  2201. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nemo: latest tinderbox build off beta - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-beta-win64/1423159667/
  2202. # [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> they're not being shipped yet, so tinderbox builds are what you'll get
  2203. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or an Aurora (DevEdition) nightly - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2015/02/2015-02-06-00-40-08-mozilla-aurora/
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  2205. # [22:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> anyhoo, back to work
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  2230. # [22:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/3da0ac9c71d5 - Garvan Keeley - Bug 1130052 - Try avoid NPE, return from onHandleIntent if null intent. r=vng
  2231. # [22:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b47444224e71 - Mike Taylor - Bug 1129055 - Make headers summary URL value selectable. r=vporof
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  2234. # [22:32] <jesup> Cute, mozmake crashed (actually 6 of them crashed) on my when I hit ^c (windows) during a compile
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  2238. # [22:36] <nemo> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ah. thanks
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  2240. # [22:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: yeah, known bug
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  2243. # [22:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> firebot: bug 1037243
  2244. # [22:37] <firebot> https://bugzil.la/1037243 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Canceling build with Ctrl+C causes Windows "mozmake.exe has stopped responding" dialog box to come u
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  2249. # [22:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: feel free to poke in-bug, but I'm ultimately not sure who's on the hook for fixing it
  2250. # [22:39] <jesup> biggest annoyance is that it sits there for a few minutes first
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  2296. # [23:06] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/54414d565677 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 1127435 - Use separate client queues per actor. r=ochameau
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  2303. # [23:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/0fe69a9f2bd4 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1129576 - Fetch the country code in the Search Activity r=margaret f=rnewman
  2304. # [23:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/c343219070e2 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1129576 - Rename the stumbler API key to the generic mozilla API key r=nalexander
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  2319. # [23:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e743d6237be9 - Mark Finkle - Bug 1129607 - Init the search service earlier so the country code is fetched before we attempt to get the engine list r=margaret
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  2322. # [23:15] <RyanVM> mccr8: It can't seriously be the MOZ_ASSERT stuff, can it?
  2323. # [23:16] <mccr8> haha
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  2327. # [23:16] <mccr8> RyanVM: well, the one before it hasn't come back yet so maybe it is that
  2328. # [23:17] <mccr8> but it would be quite surprising
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  2336. # [23:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7468e7abe80 - Cykesiopka - Bug 968560 - Add missing Not-Yet-Valid cert override tests. r=dkeeler
  2337. # [23:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed767baad4bc - Cykesiopka - Bug 968560 - Return distinct error codes for certificates that are not valid yet, in mozilla::pkix. r=keeler
  2338. # [23:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c23f8c034d1 - Valentin Gosu - Bug 1116124 - Temporarily return early instead of hitting assertion when status==NS_OK (see bug 1124971) r=mcmanus
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  2352. # [23:30] <RyanVM> mccr8: looking like we have a winner :)
  2353. # [23:30] <rillian> glandium: since updating git-remote-hg today, I get "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/tip" updating from the hg repos
  2354. # [23:30] <mccr8> RyanVM: WEIRD!!!
  2355. # [23:30] <rillian> glandium: should I file an issue?
  2356. # [23:30] <RyanVM> mccr8: happy debugging :P
  2357. # [23:30] <RyanVM> I'm sure njn will enjoy that too
  2358. # [23:31] <mccr8> RyanVM: at least njn cares about memory usage so he'll be less reluctant to back it out. ;)
  2359. # [23:31] <mccr8> hey I'm not going to debug anything, I'm just going to pester.
  2360. # [23:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/69ed81f3d7c2 - Bhavana Bajaj - Backed out changeset cec0b3b4403a (bug 1129804)
  2361. # [23:31] <mccr8> I'll do some more retriggers on the prior one just in case we got "lucky"
  2362. # [23:31] <mccr8> RyanVM: thanks for doing all of the retriggers to track this down!
  2363. # [23:32] <RyanVM> yw
  2364. # [23:34] <mrbkap> Has anybody else seen a linking error about nsTraceRefcnt::WalkTheStack?
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  2368. # [23:34] <mccr8> mrbkap: tromey said "anybody else seeing: ../../../../../../dist/include/mozilla/Assertions.h:140: error: undefined reference to 'nsTraceRefcnt::WalkTheStack(_IO_FILE*)'" earlier today
  2369. # [23:35] <mccr8> though that doesn't look like a linking error...
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  2371. # [23:35] <tromey> yes, I saw that with git master today
  2372. # [23:35] <tromey> it was from the linker
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  2374. # [23:35] <tromey> while linking some test case IIRC
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  2376. # [23:35] <tromey> and indeed in libxul, nm shows that function as 't' -- private
  2377. # [23:35] <tromey> I didn't try to find what munges symbol visibility for that
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  2385. # [23:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=1e9856e61c9a - 14 changesets
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  2400. # [23:52] <mccr8> tromey mrbkap: george wright is blaming that failure on bug 1127201 if you are looking to revert something.
  2401. # [23:52] <mrbkap> Waldo: ping?
  2402. # [23:52] <mccr8> maybe I should just back it out. it is also causing leaks. ;)
  2403. # [23:52] <Waldo> mrbkap: pong
  2404. # [23:52] <mrbkap> mccr8: Yeah, me too :)
  2405. # [23:52] <mccr8> heh
  2406. # [23:52] <mrbkap> Waldo: you reviewed the bug that mccr8 just mentioned :)
  2407. # [23:53] <Waldo> ...okay, I guess I need to read scrollback before saying any more :-)
  2408. # [23:53] <tromey> thanks for digging that up
  2409. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/ee8d92893082 - Brian Grinstead - Bug 1121723 - change width and margin of tab separators for devedition to prevent tab jittering in customize mode;r=MattN
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  2421. # [23:59] <glandium> rillian: read the README
  2422. # [23:59] <Waldo> mccr8: yeah, I'd back out at this point
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  2425. # [23:59] <mccr8> Waldo: ok, thanks. I was trying to avoid it because the patch is so huge. ;)
  2426. # [23:59] <Waldo> mccr8: probably we should try and binary-land the patch until we figure out what little bit is unhappymaking
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