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  1. # Session Start: Thu Feb 12 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <seth> lmandel: yeah, there will be some time zone issues =\
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  5. # [00:00] <lmandel> seth: Have a good time on PTO.
  6. # [00:00] <mfinkle> rstrong: no objections from me
  7. # [00:00] <seth> thanks!
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  24. # [00:07] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82b5134173f4 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 1118051. Report layer event regions items as having empty bounds so they don't expand the visible region of layers. r=roc
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  29. # [00:10] <lmandel> seth: I see that you have 7 bugs tracked for 37. Does uplifting bug 111974 help with any of these bugs?
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  31. # [00:10] <seth> lmandel: let me look at the list, just a sec
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  34. # [00:12] <jesup> dmajor: up for review!
  35. # [00:12] <lmandel> seth: Looks like at least a couple may be ready to land on 37 now.
  36. # [00:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa4817b6ad61 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 1117337 - Get rid of this generic path in favor of explicit (de)serialization of URIs. r=bent
  37. # [00:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/016b3f06add1 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 1117337 - Properly serialize moz-icon URIs. r=bent
  38. # [00:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/9e5ee2a15107 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  39. # [00:13] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/0127c24e0688 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  40. # [00:13] <jesup> dmajor: this blocks an important landing of webrtc renegotiation code (where we can temporarily have a larger number of engines in use)
  41. # [00:13] <seth> lmandel: i don't think so. it's actually possible that it may block them in the sense that major rebasing might be necessary otherwise, though
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  43. # [00:13] <lmandel> seth: You mean that you need to uplift the refactoring in order to easily uplift the 2 fixed bugs?
  44. # [00:14] <seth> lmandel: possibly. i'm not sure i've made clear the scale of the problem here
  45. # [00:14] <seth> lmandel: to uplift the patches that actually fix some of this stuff, i have to uplift *tons* of other fixes
  46. # [00:14] <lmandel> seth: Both of the fixed bugs have already landed on beta, which I assume does not have the refactoring.
  47. # [00:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f54679a7951 - Christoph Kerschbaumer - Bug 1121857 - CSP: document.baseURI should not get blocked if baseURI is null - tests (r=sstamm)
  48. # [00:14] <seth> lmandel: yeah, but the code massively changed between 36 and 37
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  50. # [00:15] <lmandel> seth: I'd like to understand exactly how much and if simpler / hackier fixes can be deployed in 37.
  51. # [00:15] <dmajor> jesup: will look soon
  52. # [00:15] <seth> lmandel: i don't think it's a good idea. almost all of this stuff is bug fixes that should probably be uplifted anyway
  53. # [00:16] <jesup> dmajor: thanks
  54. # [00:16] <lmandel> seth: OK. Can you send a summary of what you expect will need to be uplifted to fix this collection of bugs to Jet and me so that we can discuss this while you're on PTO?
  55. # [00:16] <jesup> it's not a complex patch
  56. # [00:16] <seth> lmandel: yeah, i'm making it now. the list is going to be fairly large, unfortunately
  57. # [00:16] <lmandel> seth: OK. I'll get through it.
  58. # [00:16] <seth> lmandel: if you're going to have a meeting about it, i can attend even though i'm on PTO
  59. # [00:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e1af04992cfb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 19e0922d6d0c (bug 1044597) for browser_subdialogs.js failures.
  60. # [00:17] <lmandel> seth: I doubt we'll have a meeting as Jet is away. More likely I'll try and cover this over e-mail.
  61. # [00:17] <seth> lmandel: ok. that's easier for everyone probably
  62. # [00:17] <lmandel> seth: I appreciate your willingness to help with this.
  63. # [00:17] <lmandel> seth: If this is as large of a collection of fixes as I'm thinking, I do want to take them in the next week or so while 37 is still Aurora.
  64. # [00:18] <seth> lmandel: i'm sorry it got to this point. i wanted to uplift these things within days of aurora being split off, but it was blocked because there was a memshrink regression. if i had realized the complexity of fixing the regression, i'd just have uplifted right away =\
  65. # [00:18] <lmandel> seth: OK. I'm off for real this time. I'll look for your e-mail later and follow up with Jet and you via e-mail.
  66. # [00:18] <seth> lmandel: sounds good. thanks
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  69. # [00:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2e7a9e606aa - Matthew Gregan - Bug 1131788 - cubeb: Unable to use InterlockedAdd64 on MSVC2010 (and mingw). r=padenot
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  74. # [00:24] <Bas> Archaeopteryx: I found out my problem, it took me hours.
  75. # [00:24] <Bas> Archaeopteryx: I'm going to tell you the solution so if you try to help someone again you can tell them :)
  76. # [00:24] <Archaeopteryx> and what was the culprit?
  77. # [00:24] <Bas> Archaeopteryx: The 'I' is only added if you have multiple instances of Bash open.
  78. # [00:25] <Bas> So talos-test just doesn't work if you have multiple terminals open on windows.
  79. # [00:25] <Bas> Archaeopteryx: (I found this out by trying on another computer, and noticing it worked, and I just started eliminating differences from my setup)
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  82. # [00:26] <Archaeopteryx> ah
  83. # [00:28] <Bas> Depressingly simple for something that took me several hours to figure out, really.
  84. # [00:28] <@smaug> gps: do we generate .h files from .idl files before dealing with .ipdl?
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  88. # [00:32] <gps> smaug: i believe the answer is it is undefined
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  90. # [00:32] <@smaug> k
  91. # [00:32] <gps> smaug: unless there is a dependency, we should be building things like that concurrently
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  96. # [00:34] <fitzgen> bz: ping
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  99. # [00:34] <@smaug> gps: can I mark dependency somehow?
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  101. # [00:35] * @smaug has never done anything like that using moz.build stuff
  102. # [00:35] <gps> smaug: it is possible. but why?
  103. # [00:35] <@smaug> gps: one ipdl file would like to use something from a generated .h file
  104. # [00:35] <@smaug> generated from .idl
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  106. # [00:36] <gps> smaug: i'd highly prefer you find a better way
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  108. # [00:36] <gps> can you forward declare a type or something?
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  110. # [00:36] <gps> glandium: ^
  111. # [00:37] <@smaug> gps: well, in this case it would be actually getting the right typedef from .idl
  112. # [00:37] <@smaug> kind of silly case
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  114. # [00:37] <gps> i'm reluctant to add this dependency because it slows down builds
  115. # [00:37] <@smaug> fair
  116. # [00:38] <gps> and all flavors of IDL are already a PITA in the build system
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  118. # [00:38] <glandium> smaug: you needn't do anything
  119. # [00:38] <@smaug> ?
  120. # [00:39] <glandium> smaug: except if you're talking about ipdl parsing itself needing the generated .h
  121. # [00:39] <glandium> smaug: idl -> h is done in export ; ipdl -> cpp/h is done in export ; *building* ipdl cpp is done in compile
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  123. # [00:40] <gps> did i misinterpret the question?
  124. # [00:40] <@smaug> using Foo from "my/file.h"
  125. # [00:40] <@smaug> something like that in ipdl
  126. # [00:40] <glandium> smaug: i doubt the ipdl -> cpp/h thing reads headers
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  129. # [00:41] <@smaug> ah, right
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  131. # [00:41] <@smaug> it might not
  132. # [00:41] * @smaug tries
  133. # [00:41] <@smaug> thanks
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  135. # [00:41] <dholbert> off-topic CLOBBER-file question: since .idl-file removal requires a clobber, should we also touch CLOBBER for patches that *add* an IDL file? (so that backouts will Just Work, since a hypothetical backout will remove the IDL & also be modifying the clobber file)
  136. # [00:42] <gps> dholbert: you are thinking too hard. i believe the idl removal clobber issue patch is in my review queue
  137. # [00:42] <gps> dholbert: but your thinking has merits :)
  138. # [00:42] <dholbert> gps, it is indeed. my question is premised on stuff landing before that lands, though in my case that likely won't happen, so it probably doesn't matter
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  141. # [00:43] <dholbert> gps, the patch is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114669 FWIW, though I'm not claiming it needs to jump to the front or anything
  142. # [00:43] <dholbert> anyway, I'm satisfied with the "you're thinking too hard" answer :) seems like it will become a non-issue soon
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  145. # [00:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/383609472929 - Jim Blandy - Bug 1124754: Use approximate object counts when testing takeCensus, to avoid being flummoxed by SpiderMonkey implementation details. r=shu
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  151. # [00:50] <KWierso> mrbkap: bustage
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  153. # [00:51] <mccr8> KWierso: bug 1083952 looks like it has started happening fairly frequently. It might be worth seeing if you can track down what caused it, with some retriggers.
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  158. # [00:54] <mrbkap> KWierso: er
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  160. # [00:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7d0685f13f2 - Wes Kocher - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 1117337) for b2g build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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  199. # [01:14] <diyack> Good evening, I just due to the announcement of the need for validation of firefox extensions that will be put in place.
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  201. # [01:15] <diyack> why not provide a simple way to disable this security?
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  204. # [01:15] <diyack> the about:config is done for!
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  211. # [01:24] <dholbert> diyack, #security or #amo is probably a better place to ask about that
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  213. # [01:25] <dholbert> diyack, (this channel is broadly about hacking on gecko itself)
  214. # [01:25] <Fallen> diyack: if its simple to disable, there is no need for security in the first place. But #amo is better, yes. There is a big thread on mozilla.addons.user-experience
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  216. # [01:27] <dholbert> (jorgev also provided a bit of an explanation here: http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/02/10/extension-signing-safer-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-212608 )
  217. # [01:27] <dholbert> ( diyack, ^ )
  218. # [01:30] <diyack> thx all :)
  219. # [01:30] <dholbert> np
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  223. # [01:32] <mrbkap> seth: ping?
  224. # [01:33] <seth> mrbkap: pong
  225. # [01:33] <mrbkap> seth: Hey, is there a decent place in image/ for me to unconditionally stick the nsMozIcon CID?
  226. # [01:34] <mrbkap> oops
  227. # [01:34] <mrbkap> nsMozIconURI
  228. # [01:35] <seth> mrbkap: i'm not sure i understand. aren't CID's usually associated with a class? so are you asking where to put the class, or is this just a question of where to put a constant?
  229. # [01:35] <mrbkap> seth: Would it be bad for me to move nsIIconURI.idl to image/public, for example and include it there?
  230. # [01:35] <diyack> ( it's still strange to say an idiot user could change settings that affecterais firefox security while with about: config has hundreds of easily accessible settings! )
  231. # [01:35] <seth> mrbkap: i don't think that would be bad
  232. # [01:36] <mrbkap> seth: ok, I'll do that.
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  234. # [01:36] <Unfocused> there are no idiot users, only stupid software. if someone screws up their firefox install, that's entirely on us
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  247. # [01:45] <NeilAway> Mossop: it's quite fortunate that we do pack them because the build system would try to consolidate their manifests otherwise :s
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  249. # [01:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2db20a9e01b9 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1127167 - Backout 825f6ee63f7f for causing massive regressions on a CLOSED TREE
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  260. # [01:57] <fitzgen> mrbkap: ping
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  264. # [02:00] <fitzgen> mrbkap: ah, its fine then, nvm
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  293. # [02:19] <DGMurdockIII> why did you guys backpeddel on making the html5 player on youtube the mandtory player
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  296. # [02:19] <jdm> pretty sure that's not up to us
  297. # [02:19] <nalexander> DGMurdockIII: stability. The crash rate was just too high.
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  299. # [02:19] <jdm> oh, my mistake I suppose
  300. # [02:19] <nalexander> jdm: we worked with Youtube to make sure we didn't push the player to Firefox users.
  301. # [02:20] <nalexander> DGMurdockIII: nobody wanted to slip a release -- (!) -- but I believe we just were too crashy with it.
  302. # [02:20] <nalexander> DGMurdockIII: but I really have no more context than that, and I may be wrong. Sorry :/
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  305. # [02:20] <DGMurdockIII> i did notice
  306. # [02:21] <DGMurdockIII> that it was slow
  307. # [02:21] <DGMurdockIII> you now you could make a sepret branch of firefox for people that to help just provied feedback for that
  308. # [02:22] <Unfocused> i think that's called "developer edition"
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  310. # [02:24] <mattwoodrow> DGMurdockIII: it’s still enabled on nightly/aurora/developer edition (firefox 37+), so if you want to use one of those and report any problems you have, that’d be awesome
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  317. # [02:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2db20a9e01b9 - Brian Hackett - Bug 1127167 - Backout 825f6ee63f7f for causing massive regressions on a CLOSED TREE
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  384. # [03:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/235d3fa4cd14 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1120144 - Disable test_bug641198.html until it can be rewritten. r=me a=testonly
  385. # [03:18] <seth> KWierso: that's ok, right? ^
  386. # [03:19] <seth> KWierso: i.e., i don't need approval for changes that only touch the test manifest?
  387. # [03:19] <seth> (argh, and it should've been DONTBUILD too...)
  388. # [03:19] <KWierso> seth: sounds right to me
  389. # [03:19] <seth> thanks
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  393. # [03:21] <cirocosta> hi, i've just got an r+ for a bug (my first!), now how should i submit the new patch with the new changes? Should i create a new patch on top of the one i've provided (hg qnew on top of the applied patch), or just refresh it with the new content (just work on top of it and then hg qrefresh) ?
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  397. # [03:22] <seth> cirocosta: are they changes that the reviewer asked you to make?
  398. # [03:23] <seth> cirocosta: if so, then you can just update the existing patch
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  400. # [03:23] <seth> cirocosta: you can also update the existing patch for "small" changes. fixing some minor bug for example
  401. # [03:24] <seth> cirocosta: if you're making large changes, you can either update the existing patch or create a new patch on top of it, and rerequest review in either case
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  403. # [03:25] <seth> cirocosta: in general just use common sense and try to do whatever's easier to understand for the reviewer and for people in the future who may have to come back and take a look at your patches to fix some bug
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  408. # [03:26] <cirocosta> seth: yes, asked for some minor changes. I think i got it
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  410. # [03:27] <cirocosta> seth: just one more question, when uploading the updated patch, should i rename it for something like bugXXX_desc-(2), indicating that this is a second iteration on the first patch submitted or is this not a common practice?
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  413. # [03:28] <seth> cirocosta: bugzilla will keep all of the old versions of the patch anyway, so people will still be able to refer to them
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  415. # [03:28] <seth> cirocosta: i advise you to mark the old version as obsolete before you upload, and then upload the new one with the same name
  416. # [03:28] <seth> cirocosta: generally keep anything but the latest version of the patch marked obsolete. otherwise you are likely to confuse people
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  418. # [03:29] <cirocosta> seth: hmm, that makes sense. Thanks for your attention! I'll keep that in mind
  419. # [03:29] <seth> cirocosta: happy to help!
  420. # [03:29] <cirocosta> seth: :D
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  440. # [03:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/12dde0274d48 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1128229 - Add fuzzy annotations to CSS image tests that depend on imgFrame::Optimize. r=me a=testonly
  441. # [03:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/8e744fc8972c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1128229 - Add more fuzz on Win8. a=testonly
  442. # [03:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/0eabce4d5b3c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1128229 - Add a bit more fuzz to image-object-position-with-background-2.html on Windows. a=testonly
  443. # [03:41] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/5030d9cf38b3 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1128229 (Followup) - Add more fuzz to layout/reftests/w3c-css/submitted/ui3/box-sizing-replaced-002.xht. r=me a=testonly
  444. # [03:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/1a6b4564e1b6 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1128229 (Followup) - Add even more fuzz to layout/reftests/w3c-css/submitted/ui3/box-sizing-replaced-002.xht. r=me a=testonly
  445. # [03:42] <RyanVM|afk> seth: speaking of box-sizing-replaced-002.xht
  446. # [03:42] <RyanVM|afk> seth: can you please add some more android fuzz for the recent failures?
  447. # [03:42] <seth> RyanVM|afk: i did already
  448. # [03:43] <seth> RyanVM|afk: pushed it a couple of hours ago, i think
  449. # [03:43] <RyanVM|afk> <3
  450. # [03:43] <RyanVM|afk> thank you kindly, good sir :)
  451. # [03:43] <seth> RyanVM|afk: happy to help =) that test has a bazillion images, so it seems to vary a lot in how much fuzz it needs
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  472. # [04:01] <philor> RyanVM|afk: do we have a theory for m-i that involves anything other than "back out blassey"?
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  477. # [04:02] * RyanVM|afk looks
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  479. # [04:03] <philor> the xperf looks particularly good for him, accessing addons.sqlite
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  481. # [04:04] <RyanVM|afk> whoops
  482. # [04:04] * RyanVM|afk is too used to the regular xperf suck
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  484. # [04:04] <philor> curiously, his (no talos) try run shows a ton of other unfamiliar bustage, but not so much the present bustage
  485. # [04:05] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn: I'm trying to reproduce "the" gfx OOM bug and I've come across something mighty strange.
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  488. # [04:05] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: excellent
  489. # [04:06] <RyanVM|afk> philor: his Try runs have the M5 failures at least
  490. # [04:06] <philor> well, does have the win7 m5
  491. # [04:06] <RyanVM|afk> yeah
  492. # [04:06] <KWierso> philor, RyanVM|afk: ugh, back again
  493. # [04:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> when I'm on a background tab I get very strange saw toothing on the "Shareable" memory on Windows VMMap
  494. # [04:06] <philor> KWierso: his patch? yeah, it is, looks a tiny bit familiar, too, doesn't it?
  495. # [04:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> cycling up to 2.5GB then back down again over the period of 5 or so seconds
  496. # [04:07] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> it doesn't happen with the tab in foreground
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  498. # [04:07] <KWierso> philor: his push didn't have the results when I first looked at failures further up the page, so I thought it was some weird needs-clobber thing from the m-c merge
  499. # [04:07] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: does VMMap tell you anything about what's responsible?
  500. # [04:07] <KWierso> then didn't notice they finally showed up on his push
  501. # [04:07] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: could that be an OMTC bug?
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  503. # [04:08] <philor> KWierso: no, I mean familiar from when you backed it out of fx-team in January, it had the win7 m5 then too
  504. # [04:08] <RyanVM|afk> new ASAN leaks by the looks of it too
  505. # [04:08] <philor> and the xperf access
  506. # [04:08] <philor> and the asan devtools leak
  507. # [04:09] <philor> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=fx-team&revision=f84850059d9e for those who might want to compare and constrast
  508. # [04:09] <KWierso> philor: pushing a backout
  509. # [04:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ed69c4d2c15 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset fe5c25b8b675 (bug 1071880) for various test failures on a really CLOSED TREE
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  513. # [04:11] <philor> probably the non-asan devtools leak too, seems to have been a bit of that last time around
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  515. # [04:12] <philor> and the Mac Moth
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  519. # [04:14] <philor> and after another three or four thousand failures of Android's testOSLocale, I'm going to find myself getting tired of it
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  522. # [04:16] <RyanVM|afk> philor: funny, I was thinking the same thing today
  523. # [04:16] <philor> RyanVM|afk: any time nobody stomps on me changing a summary to "or any other failure at all in that test" it's a red flag
  524. # [04:17] <RyanVM|afk> :)
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  527. # [04:18] <RyanVM|afk> philor: just fired the last warning shots for it
  528. # [04:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/90c5e93f6eef - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 1 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
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  530. # [04:19] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: disabling OMTC appears to fix the sawtoothing issue
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  536. # [04:24] <philor> http://mozilla-releng-blobs.s3.amazonaws.com/blobs/mozilla-inbound/sha512/1efea6a2f99f8b6ccfa62d8cca1fcd8171b328c436a8ec36b558008fe97ebfd4a121be10e8ad73d21a8128d8c8f58a133baf6b5a0ae694af9979c848ca4e7e3a
  537. # [04:25] <philor> "Special Powers might be making Nightly run slowly. [Disable Special Powers]"
  538. # [04:25] <philor> don't click the button, test automation, you won't like what happens!
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  541. # [04:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn: how often does cycle collection run?
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  544. # [04:27] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: depends on workload, but if you enable javascript.options.mem.log in about:config you can see it in the browser console
  545. # [04:27] <@njn> or is it the error console
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  547. # [04:27] <RyanVM|afk> seth: seen this before? https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=264533&repo=mozilla-beta
  548. # [04:27] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: the one you get with ctrl-shift-j
  549. # [04:28] <RyanVM|afk> seth: oh, probably just a variant of bug 1119518
  550. # [04:28] <RyanVM|afk> nvm me
  551. # [04:28] <dmajor> njn: re "what's responsible" - vmmap doesn't tell us much. we know that those allocations come from the gfx stack, not from us directly.
  552. # [04:28] <@njn> dmajor: that's a familiar story
  553. # [04:28] <@njn> :
  554. # [04:28] <@njn> :/
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  557. # [04:29] <dmajor> xperf may be able to reveal more. gpuview would very likely reveal more.
  558. # [04:30] * dmajor trying to set up a similar machine to reproduce
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  561. # [04:31] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn: the sawtoothing doesn't seem to match the CC
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  563. # [04:32] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: I can believe that
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  565. # [04:33] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> njn: it doesn't happen without OMTC... shareable sits at about 40MB instead of being about 300M
  566. # [04:34] <@njn> kentuckyfriedtakahe: I don't think OMTC and the cycle collector have much interaction
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  572. # [04:40] <dmajor> ooh, it repros on my mac mini (0x8086/0x0166)
  573. # [04:40] <dmajor> (in bootcamp)
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  584. # [04:48] <dmajor> njn: kentuckyfriedtakahe: xperf isn't capturing the allocations :\
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  586. # [04:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2483a2d08384 - Steven MacLeod - Bug 1107609 - Implement ContentTask.spawn; r=Gijs r=mconley
  587. # [04:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8e3476364f4c - Steven MacLeod - Bug 1107609 - Simplify test_pushstate_replacestate with ContentTask. r=ttaubert r=mconley
  588. # [04:49] <@njn> dmajor: does xperf trap VirtualAlloc?
  589. # [04:49] <dmajor> njn: yes
  590. # [04:49] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: The memory leaking?
  591. # [04:49] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: yes
  592. # [04:49] <mattwoodrow> sweeeet
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  596. # [04:50] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: do you speak gpuview?
  597. # [04:50] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: Is it d3d9-shared-textures accumulating?
  598. # [04:50] <mattwoodrow> I do not
  599. # [04:50] <dmajor> I remember a while back jrmuizel was able to pinpoint some allocations that xperf missed
  600. # [04:50] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: yes
  601. # [04:51] <mattwoodrow> I know exactly where that allocation is then :)
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  603. # [04:51] <mattwoodrow> I want to know why it’s not being deallocated
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  605. # [04:51] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: so, they are getting deallocated, at an inconvenient time
  606. # [04:51] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: ^
  607. # [04:51] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: a toooon of these things pile up until we're basically out of address space, and suddenly they all go away
  608. # [04:52] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: and it continues like that in a sawtooth pattern
  609. # [04:52] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: Are you using a background tab to repro it?
  610. # [04:52] <jrmuizel_> hello
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  612. # [04:52] <jrmuizel_> I speak gpuview
  613. # [04:52] <dmajor> but, I suspect, if by unlucky timing some other code needs an allocation right at the critical point, it might not succeed
  614. # [04:52] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: yes it's in a bg tab
  615. # [04:53] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: you can reproduce the problem?
  616. # [04:53] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: we have two machines that repro the WC stuff
  617. # [04:53] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: \o/
  618. # [04:54] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: have we learned anything yet?
  619. # [04:55] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: so it doesn't happen with omtc off
  620. # [04:55] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: that's interesting
  621. # [04:55] <mattwoodrow> that’s expected, omtc off won’t use dxva
  622. # [04:55] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: and on kentuckyfriedtakahe's dual gpu machine, it only happens on the intel not the nvidia
  623. # [04:55] <mattwoodrow> so we won’t be allocated shared d3d9 textures
  624. # [04:55] <mattwoodrow> *allocating
  625. # [04:55] <dmajor> and it only happens when the video is in a background tab
  626. # [04:55] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> jrmuizel_: having get.webgl.org in the foreground tab fixes it.
  627. # [04:56] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> or at least fixes the sawtoothing in vmmap
  628. # [04:56] <mattwoodrow> kentuckyfriedtakahe: What about just scrolling the foreground tab around?
  629. # [04:56] <jrmuizel_> very interesting
  630. # [04:56] <mattwoodrow> on bugzilla
  631. # [04:56] <jrmuizel_> how much does it sawtooth?
  632. # [04:56] <jrmuizel_> in MB?
  633. # [04:56] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: 2.5GB
  634. # [04:56] <jrmuizel_> that's great
  635. # [04:56] <dmajor> as much as it can, I think
  636. # [04:57] <mattwoodrow> but it releases them eventually
  637. # [04:57] <mattwoodrow> so sounds like the driver is holding refs, but gets a low memory notification and clears them
  638. # [04:57] <dmajor> I suspect the trigger for release is "couldn't allocate"
  639. # [04:57] <dmajor> yea
  640. # [04:57] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: hard to test. have you got something that scrolls itself?
  641. # [04:57] <mattwoodrow> or it’s our code’s low memory notifications, but that seems less likely
  642. # [04:58] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: does the sawtooth show up in about:memory?
  643. # [04:58] <mattwoodrow> kentuckyfriedtakahe: I’m trying to distinguish between an entirely static page, and something that still composites sometimes
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  645. # [04:58] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: hard to say, can't capture that fast
  646. # [04:58] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: can you send me a gpuview?
  647. # [04:58] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> jrmuizel_: karl's hypothesis is that gc is normally done in the refresh driver so no refreshes means no gc for the background tab
  648. # [04:59] <mattwoodrow> kentuckyfriedtakahe: The objects we’re leaking shouldn’t be attached to gc at all
  649. # [04:59] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: which objects are we leaking?
  650. # [04:59] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: IDirect3DTexture9
  651. # [04:59] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: sure
  652. # [04:59] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: if we do happen to capture about:memory when it's high, there is a ton of d3d9-shared-texture
  653. # [04:59] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8686778
  654. # [05:00] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: the shared one that we create?
  655. # [05:00] <mattwoodrow> yep
  656. # [05:00] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: ok that's good
  657. # [05:00] <mattwoodrow> this still doesn’t explain the other reporters old bug, where we saw the TextureClients being leaked too
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  659. # [05:00] <mattwoodrow> I have absolutely no clue what was going on there
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  661. # [05:01] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: one at a time I suppose
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  663. # [05:01] <mattwoodrow> yeah indeed
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  667. # [05:02] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: kentuckyfriedtakahe: Can you try scrolling the foreground tab around a bit and see if that prevents (or flushes) the accumulation
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  669. # [05:04] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: it doesn't go so high with a 1 second counter in the foreground tab http://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/20160101120000am/w4870/1/
  670. # [05:05] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> it goes up even less with a stopwatch in the foreground ta
  671. # [05:05] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> tab
  672. # [05:06] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: I guess compositing is flushing the pipeline and causing them to be released?
  673. # [05:06] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: hard to know, we need to find out who's holding the final reference
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  675. # [05:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: yes. compositing the foreground window seems to do the trick. I tried with 5s, 1s and 0.01s intervals
  676. # [05:06] <mattwoodrow> any suggestions on doing that?
  677. # [05:06] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> and it seems to track them
  678. # [05:06] <jrmuizel_> kentuckyfriedtakahe: so you can reproduce it as well?
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  680. # [05:07] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: gpuview has shown me in the past, it may not work as well with d3d9 textures though
  681. # [05:07] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> jrmuizel_: yes. on intel but not nvidia on my dual gpu
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  686. # [05:08] <jrmuizel_> setting a breakpoint on the d3d9 destruction function would do it
  687. # [05:08] <jrmuizel_> I'm not sure how practical that is though
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  690. # [05:09] <karlt> know any quick tricks to test the theory that the pipeline has the final reference?
  691. # [05:10] * karlt doesn't know when a good time to flush would be
  692. # [05:10] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: kentuckyfriedtakahe: do either of you have a build env handy for these machines?
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  694. # [05:10] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: I do.
  695. # [05:10] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: not on mine
  696. # [05:10] <mattwoodrow> kentuckyfriedtakahe: Can you try commenting this line out - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/layers/d3d11/TextureD3D11.cpp#506
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  698. # [05:11] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> I'll just try reproducing with my own build.
  699. # [05:11] <mattwoodrow> ok
  700. # [05:12] <mattwoodrow> actually, you’ll need to replace it with
  701. # [05:12] <mattwoodrow> mSize = aDescriptor.size();
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  703. # [05:13] <jrmuizel_> I'm heading out to lunch
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  706. # [05:15] <markh> what's the best way to add a note to a sherrif in a bug that has approval for aurora uplift? I'd like to request that 2 different bugs be uplifted simultaneously.
  707. # [05:15] <markh> will a normal comment be noticed?
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  709. # [05:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/857055f5c6a9 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 1117067 - Destroy toolbox before disconnect. r=ochameau a=lmandel
  710. # [05:16] <dmajor> kentuckyfriedtakahe: when I use about:newtab as the foreground page, it doesn't sawtooth very much, just goes up and stays there. no compositing I guess?
  711. # [05:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/0b12195e1e05 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 1117067 - Harden toolbox cleanup paths, async promises for WebIDE tests. r=ochameau a=lmandel
  712. # [05:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/8a7929c589d1 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 1117067 - Don't wait for tab.detach to complete. r=ochameau a=lmandel
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  717. # [05:19] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: problem goes away
  718. # [05:19] <mattwoodrow> I thought it might
  719. # [05:20] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> but playback looks sluggish
  720. # [05:20] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> (could be my build config)
  721. # [05:20] <mattwoodrow> so, my current theory is that when we call OpenSharedHandle() to convert a d3d9 texture into a d3d11 texture, the driver decides to do the work lazily
  722. # [05:20] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: it uses a lot less shareable memory... about 60MB
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  724. # [05:21] <mattwoodrow> so it adds a ref to the d3d9 texture, and puts a task in the pipeline
  725. # [05:21] <mattwoodrow> but with the foreground tab not doing anything, we never actually composite and flush that pipeline
  726. # [05:21] <mattwoodrow> so we just accumulate ref’d textures
  727. # [05:21] <mattwoodrow> eventually the low memory triggers the driver to flush itself, and it all goes away
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  729. # [05:22] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: so the fix is not to bother?
  730. # [05:22] <mattwoodrow> my change makes the d3d9 -> d3d11 conversion also lazy, so that it only happens when we’re actually going to use it immediately (and know that we’ll flush as part of that)
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  732. # [05:22] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: interesting.
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  736. # [05:23] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: correct me if I'm wrong but more generally the problem is that we should be calling flush on background tabs?
  737. # [05:24] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> because other operations could also be waiting for a flush
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  739. # [05:25] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> either way you've definitely found *a* way to fix the problem. it uses a lot less shared memory even in foreground.
  740. # [05:25] <mattwoodrow> well, there’s only one device to flush, irrespective of tabs
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  742. # [05:25] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: right. but we should flush it even if we don't have anything to composite
  743. # [05:25] <mattwoodrow> but if things are allocating resources, then we might need to be flushing every so often, rather than only when we composite
  744. # [05:25] <mattwoodrow> yes
  745. # [05:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> although doing the conversion lazily may still be a good thing for video.
  746. # [05:26] <mattwoodrow> I think the lazy conversion is the right thing regardless
  747. # [05:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> because you don't actually need to do it at all for background tabs
  748. # [05:26] <mattwoodrow> we might want more flushes as well
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  750. # [05:26] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> yes. I'm guessing we want both
  751. # [05:27] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> because no flushes could be problematic for accumulating other operations.
  752. # [05:27] <mattwoodrow> I’m not entirely convinced this fixes all our issues unfortunately
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  755. # [05:27] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: time will tell. if there are further issues they'll be more visible without this blocking us.
  756. # [05:28] <mattwoodrow> kentuckyfriedtakahe: I believe bug 1128170 had a repro without background tabs, which this wouldn’t explain
  757. # [05:28] <mattwoodrow> but I’ve just added a comment to clarify
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  759. # [05:29] <mattwoodrow> ok, i’m going to go grab some food, lets see what jrmuizel_ thinks when he’s back from lunch
  760. # [05:29] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: I am thinking the low memory notifications may be a red herring
  761. # [05:29] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: what do you mean?
  762. # [05:29] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: I can get memory to stay high if the foreground is about:newtab
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  764. # [05:29] <mattwoodrow> dmajor: but it doesn’t crash?
  765. # [05:30] <mattwoodrow> why would it stop allocating at that point?
  766. # [05:30] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: no, it doesn't
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  768. # [05:30] <dmajor> mattwoodrow: kft's repro had bugzilla as the foreground, maybe that does something every few seconds that we can't see
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  770. # [05:31] <mattwoodrow> possibly
  771. # [05:31] <mattwoodrow> but if the video is still going, we should run out of address space pretty quickly
  772. # [05:31] <mattwoodrow> I guess maybe those allocations just start failing
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  774. # [05:31] <dmajor> yeah I guess at that point it tolerates the failed allocations but doesn't release what's built up so far
  775. # [05:32] <mattwoodrow> and the rest of the world manages to stay alive since nothing else is doing big allocations
  776. # [05:32] <mattwoodrow> ok, cool. I shall revise my conclusion to include that, most of it still holds
  777. # [05:34] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> dmajor: it tops out at 3GB and then crashes with GreaseMonkey disabled.
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  780. # [05:36] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> dmajor: most of the bug reports show youtube in the url but that doesn't mean a video is necessarily playing in the foreground window.
  781. # [05:37] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: in theory anything could OOM if left painting in the background long enough with an inactive page in the foreground
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  783. # [05:38] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> consider when the browser is sitting with the screensaver on and not compositing at all.. some tab is generating paint calls until we crash.
  784. # [05:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ea50fe927fda - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  785. # [05:38] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ca489109e5c8 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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  788. # [05:38] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: we still have some mysteries to resolve
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  793. # [05:42] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7462142c1322 - Eddy Bruël - Bug 1131609 - getOriginalLocation should take a sourceActor;r=jlong
  794. # [05:43] * dmajor will comment on the bug for the sake of everyone else watching
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  796. # [05:45] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: at least I can go home knowing we have identified one important problem.
  797. # [05:46] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> mattwoodrow: is it possible that on machines with very little memory we're just queueing too many operations before doing a flush?
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  822. # [06:07] <zeller> Anyone dealt with xpcom at all?
  823. # [06:07] <zeller> How would I go about getting access to the window object from an xpcom component?
  824. # [06:07] <zeller> Specifically, the window that calls my component via navigator.somename
  825. # [06:08] <zeller> Currently, I am trying to use the getMostRecentWindow("navigator:browser") function of nsIWindowMediator, but it is returning null
  826. # [06:08] <zeller> is this a permissions thing?
  827. # [06:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/411fdc70f98c - Mike Habicher - Bug 1131782 - add vendor-specific feature-detection to GonkCameraParameters, r=aosmond
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  829. # [06:10] <Unfocused> zeller: most recent windows isn't necessarily what used your api
  830. # [06:11] <Unfocused> iirc, webidl gives you the source document
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  833. # [06:12] <Unfocused> you can traverse the docshell tree from that, if need be... but i doubt that's e10s safe
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  852. # [06:26] <zeller> Unfocused: do you mean some specific webidl?
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  854. # [06:26] <zeller> I'm a bit new to gecko, so forgive any noobery
  855. # [06:27] <Unfocused> zeller: it's been awhile since i used webidl, so my memory is really fuzzy on this.... but IIRC, if you have a webidl interface, you get given the source document for every function call
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  857. # [06:28] <markh> but webidl != xpcom component. I believe there's no general solution for xpcom components in general
  858. # [06:28] <markh> other than have it manually passed in obviously
  859. # [06:28] <Unfocused> no, but you need webidl to provide interfaces on navigator, i think
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  862. # [06:30] <markh> right - so yeah, you *should* use webidl for that :) But it's *possible*, but not recommended, to add stuff to navigator without that, and I guess you could just use a closure in that case
  863. # [06:30] <markh> eg, the social API does it at https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/social/MozSocialAPI.jsm#225 - there is a bug n file to use webidl though
  864. # [06:31] <markh> but if you were doing it manually, you'd have access to the window when you added it to navigator
  865. # [06:31] <Unfocused> surprised that's not considered a high priority security bug at this stage :\
  866. # [06:31] <markh> (as that code does)
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  868. # [06:32] <markh> I think it was reviewed carefully and pre-dates webidl, but yeah :/
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  871. # [06:32] <zeller> My current webidl for the api looks like this
  872. # [06:32] <zeller> http://zeller.pastebin.mozilla.org/8688325
  873. # [06:33] <zeller> I've seen other APIs get access to the window, seemingly through a variable called aWindow
  874. # [06:33] <zeller> which they all individually implement
  875. # [06:33] <zeller> I assume there is a change needed in the webidl there to access to that from the caller
  876. # [06:33] <zeller> er, have it passed in
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  878. # [06:33] <Unfocused> markh: (just going of experiences with the install manager's InstallTrigger API, which we had to convert to webidl)
  879. # [06:34] <markh> yeah, that's what Unfocused was saying IIUC - that the implementation of the interface should get extra params
  880. # [06:34] <Unfocused> zeller: are you implementing this in JS or C++?
  881. # [06:35] <zeller> Unfocused: JS, this is the helloWorld version of what I am doing
  882. # [06:35] <zeller> https://github.com/JohnLZeller/FxOSUPrototypeService
  883. # [06:35] <zeller> the only difference is now I have more functions
  884. # [06:35] <zeller> ^ that adds navigator.mozFxOSUPrototypeService.helloWorld
  885. # [06:35] <Unfocused> zeller: ok, then have a look at how InstallTrigger does this - https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/amInstallTrigger.js
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  888. # [06:36] <markh> Unfocused: if you feel strongly about it, maybe needinfo gavin on bug 1015106
  889. # [06:36] * markh has no insights into how much of a problem it really is in practice
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  892. # [06:36] <Unfocused> good idea
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  898. # [06:39] <Unfocused> markh: socialapi provides an api that takes a callback, yes?
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  901. # [06:40] <Unfocused> ... yep, found it
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  914. # [06:46] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: did you manage to get a gpuview trace?
  915. # [06:47] <zeller> Unfocused: hmmm, so it seems like this is where InstallTrigger gets access to window: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/amInstallTrigger.js#114
  916. # [06:47] <zeller> Am I mistaken?
  917. # [06:47] <Unfocused> zeller: yep (my memory failed me)
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  919. # [06:48] <zeller> hmm
  920. # [06:48] <zeller> so then is init an expected function in components?
  921. # [06:48] <zeller> or is the window parameter being defined as DOMWindow somewhere?
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  923. # [06:49] <zeller> It's not in the webidl: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/webidl/InstallTrigger.webidl
  924. # [06:49] <Unfocused> it is for components that provide a webidl interface (which is what you should be using for exposing an API to content)
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  926. # [06:49] <Unfocused> i think it's a kind of magical method that the webidl machinery uses
  927. # [06:50] <Unfocused> there's quiet a bit of magic involved when you implement this stuff in JS
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  929. # [06:50] <zeller> as I am slowly learning haha
  930. # [06:50] <Unfocused> :)
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  932. # [06:51] <zeller> Thanks for the help :) I may ping again if I am lost (fair warning)
  933. # [06:51] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: where can I upload it without a login?
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  935. # [06:52] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: why does it need to be without a login?
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  937. # [06:52] <Unfocused> zeller: no worries :)
  938. # [06:54] <dmajor> jrmuizel_: it's my malware test machine
  939. # [06:54] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: ah
  940. # [06:54] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: how big is it?
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  943. # [06:56] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: https://rtccopy.com/#oom?
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  951. # [06:58] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: using chrome
  952. # [06:59] <dmajor> ...
  953. # [06:59] <Unfocused> on osx. in the us.
  954. # [06:59] <dmajor> can I just call you and read the bytes?
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  956. # [07:00] <jrmuizel_> dmajor: that probably won't be faster
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  1071. # [08:35] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: Did you see the patch that fixed it?
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  1074. # [08:39] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: removing OpenSharedHandle?
  1075. # [08:39] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: making it lazy, yeah
  1076. # [08:39] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: does it make sense to you?
  1077. # [08:39] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: it does
  1078. # [08:40] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: explain
  1079. # [08:40] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: the driver decides to do some of the work of opening the handle lazily, so it just grabs a reference to the d3d9 texture, and puts something in the pipeline
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  1081. # [08:41] <mattwoodrow> without any composite, we never flush the pipeline, so they just back up
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  1085. # [08:41] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: I don't think that makes sense
  1086. # [08:41] <mattwoodrow> as soon as the foreground tab starts animating, then we get the pipeline flushed, and the memory usage drops
  1087. # [08:41] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: how would OpenSharedHandle grab a reference to the d3d9 texture?
  1088. # [08:42] <mattwoodrow> the handle is just an integer id, the driver has to look up the real object internally
  1089. # [08:42] <mattwoodrow> why can’t it addref?
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  1091. # [08:43] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: afaik it looks up the kernel object
  1092. # [08:43] <mattwoodrow> I am open to other explanations that match the observations
  1093. # [08:43] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: it's not obvious to me how it would map that back to the d3d9 texture and add ref it
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  1095. # [08:44] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: when are the DXGITextureHostD3D11's being destroyed?
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  1097. # [08:45] <mattwoodrow> should be straight after we tear down the texture client
  1098. # [08:45] <mattwoodrow> which would be when we produce the next video frame
  1099. # [08:46] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: we could do an experiment where we check if the reference count on the d3d9 texture goes up after calling OpenSharedHandle
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  1101. # [08:46] <mattwoodrow> jrmuizel_: Yeah, that’d be interesting
  1102. # [08:46] <mattwoodrow> I’m going to be in the auckland office next week, so I can probably borrow one of the machines and run tests
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  1106. # [08:47] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: yeah, and I can see if I can reproduce locally when I get back to toronto
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  1109. # [08:47] <jrmuizel_> mattwoodrow: it's nice we have a stopgap now though
  1110. # [08:48] <mattwoodrow> I don’t *think* it’s the same as bug 1128170 though
  1111. # [08:48] <mattwoodrow> since he had a video playing in the foreground tab too
  1112. # [08:48] <mattwoodrow> my theory doesn’t cover that
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  1234. # [10:14] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/789b7b94a5ce - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 1126720: Use |int32_t| for |Channel| in Bluetooth Socket HAL (under bluetooth2/), r=btian
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  1236. # [10:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/39ca2a6127a8 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 1126720: Listen for socket connections when starting Bluetooth (under bluetooth2/), r=btian
  1237. # [10:15] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2cdf7ddcfc45 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 1126720: Support random postfix for Bluetooth daemon socket name (under bluetooth2/), r=btian
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  1250. # [10:21] <mgoodwin> hi past. I have (more) webconsole questions (sorry!)
  1251. # [10:22] <mgoodwin> There's a test for certificate messages:
  1252. # [10:23] <mgoodwin> https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser_webconsole_certificate_messages.js
  1253. # [10:23] <mgoodwin> in which, a test is performed that a) a set of substrings is present in messages and b) another set is not:
  1254. # [10:24] <mgoodwin> e.g.
  1255. # [10:24] <mgoodwin> https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser_webconsole_certificate_messages.js#17
  1256. # [10:24] <mgoodwin> we clear output at the start: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/test/browser_webconsole_certificate_messages.js#56
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  1258. # [10:26] <mgoodwin> and yet, since a recent change (bug 1087726), we sometimes get messages related to the previous test in the webconsole causing failures
  1259. # [10:26] <mgoodwin> (but only on windows)
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  1262. # [10:27] <mgoodwin> now I can fix the symptoms and make the test pass - but I'm wondering if there's a deeper issue
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  1273. # [10:38] <past> mgoodwin: we should definitely not get messages from a previous test, unless we reuse the same window
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  1275. # [10:39] <past> and that doesn't seem to be the case here
  1276. # [10:39] <past> (we load a new tab)
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  1278. # [10:39] <mgoodwin> past: well here's the proof: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/mgoodwin@mozilla.com-3e88d62a7bf4/try-win32-debug/try_win7-ix-debug_test-mochitest-devtools-chrome-3-bm109-tests1-windows-build3532.txt.gz
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  1282. # [10:41] <mgoodwin> I can make this happen reliably... but only on win7
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  1285. # [10:42] <mgoodwin> past: so there are two possible problems. One relates to how the loadinfo gets on the channel
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  1287. # [10:42] <mgoodwin> the other is something to do with how we decide if a message belongs to this top level window
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  1289. # [10:43] <past> the log indicates that we get the expected warning, but there is an error while doing a conversion
  1290. # [10:43] <mgoodwin> past: I can discount that being the problem; I have the same issue on this machine now that the fix for that conversion is in
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  1292. # [10:44] <mgoodwin> so we make the decision on whether a message belongs in this webconsole based on outer window id
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  1294. # [10:44] <past> oh, so no conversion error, the warning gets logged, but the test still times out?
  1295. # [10:44] <mgoodwin> yeah
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  1297. # [10:45] <past> ok, so I think you were about to describe your theory
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  1300. # [10:45] <mgoodwin> ahhh, hang on
  1301. # [10:45] <mgoodwin> we're reusing the tab for the loop
  1302. # [10:45] <mgoodwin> so it is the same window
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  1304. # [10:46] <past> so it's a message from the previous check in that same test file?
  1305. # [10:46] <mgoodwin> yes
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  1307. # [10:47] <past> ok, that would make more sense
  1308. # [10:47] <past> you mentioned that you had a fix/workaround?
  1309. # [10:47] <mgoodwin> so there are two ways to fix this. One use a new tab each time. Two, ensure subresource loads don't happen for this test (use a data: favicon, in this case)
  1310. # [10:48] <mgoodwin> the latter was my workaround
  1311. # [10:48] <mgoodwin> I suppose races with clearOutput are unavoidable
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  1314. # [10:49] <past> https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/webconsole/webconsole.js#3860
  1315. # [10:50] <past> clearOutput emits a notification
  1316. # [10:50] <past> what if we waited for that before reloading?
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  1318. # [10:50] <mgoodwin> past: that's a better solution. I'll do that. Thanks
  1319. # [10:51] <past> otherwise both of your solutions sound good to me
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  1383. # [11:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11b4c8d470ab - Tim Chien - Bug 1122463 - Don't blur the input when submit is cancelled. r=yxl
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  1387. # [11:47] <mgoodwin> past: ugh, even waiting for messages-cleared isn't enough. We still lose the race on Windows
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  1389. # [11:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2338f0e2a520 - Mike de Boer - Bug 1130356: Support the screensharing doorhanger in Social API chat windows and allow for mutiple independent notification icons per type. r=florian
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  1391. # [11:47] <mgoodwin> I guess the data: favicon will have to do
  1392. # [11:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6a6bb80ab896 - Mike de Boer - Bug 1130356: Allow multiple anchors for multiple notifications without using an iconbox. r=florian
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  1435. # [12:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/8db110f4c10a - Gijs Kruitbosch - Backed out changeset c11a0930afc2 (bug 1044600) for still making the change_app test go orange half the runs
  1436. # [12:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/4cafbb821d67 - Stefan Plewako - Bug 494210 - dialog.width entity should not be shared between the two sanitize dialogs, r=gijs
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  1438. # [12:21] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: fwiw, see backout above... may want to keep that in mind when merging fx-team. :(
  1439. # [12:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: yeah so this needs to be merged over first or ?
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  1441. # [12:22] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: you will save yourself a lot of starring if you merge the backout together with the original landing
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  1444. # [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: ok :)
  1445. # [12:22] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: it's not green yet, right, and there were some other landings in the middle, too, so it's probably not ready to be merged yet :(
  1446. # [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
  1447. # [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> needs a green pgo run
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  1464. # [12:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a76b4f207fa7 - Jan Odvarko - Bug 1130318 - Send also header source from the backend. r=vporof
  1465. # [12:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2ec6877bd567 - Mike Taylor - Bug 1125340 - Gather telemetry on H.264 profile & level values from canPlayType. r=cpearce
  1466. # [12:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bfc486042129 - Mike Taylor - Bug 1125340 - Collect h264 profile & level telemetry from decoded SPS. r=jya
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  1469. # [12:33] <mihaelav> Hi! Does anyone here know if there is any way to make the OpenH264 plugin download quicker? I need it for an automated test...
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  1477. # [12:41] <jdm> mihaelav: quicker as in start downloading sooner, or just faster download speeds in general?
  1478. # [12:43] <mihaelav> jdm: any would be great, though I think the second depends on the network. The idea is to have the plugin installed sooner
  1479. # [12:44] <jdm> mihaelav: I think it's automatic if you visit content that requires it
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  1483. # [12:45] <mihaelav> jdm: well... I know that it installs automatically when you go to about:addons > plugins, but you have to wait for a while
  1484. # [12:45] <jdm> huh
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  1544. # [13:48] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29d8651d0083 - Randell Jesup - Bug 1132193: Re-enable AEC debug logging in getUserMedia r=pkerr
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  1560. # [14:05] <gfritzsche> mihaelav: what kind of test? you could e.g. trigger the explicit update via the addon manager
  1561. # [14:06] <gfritzsche> mihaelav: or you could just install it into the profile yourself (a little fragile to future changes though)
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  1563. # [14:07] <mihaelav> gfritzsche: a mozmill test which check some related prefs before and after installing it
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  1567. # [14:09] <gfritzsche> mihaelav_mtg: how about serving the plugin from localhost? i assume you shouldnt depend on external network resources for mozmill anyway?
  1568. # [14:09] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d7181998022 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 11b4c8d470ab (bug 1122463) for b2g test failures
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  1589. # [14:17] <whimboo> gfritzsche: its not allowed to redistribute the plugin
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  1595. # [14:18] <gfritzsche> whimboo: i'm not sure how that applies to testing setups
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  1597. # [14:19] <gfritzsche> and if you want to download it faster speedwise...
  1598. # [14:19] <whimboo> gfritzsche: not faster but earlier
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  1602. # [14:19] <gfritzsche> whimboo: ok, so just triggering the download early via UI or chrome?
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  1604. # [14:19] <whimboo> we cant wait about 1min or so in our tests
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  1606. # [14:20] <whimboo> exactly
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  1611. # [14:20] <whimboo> i'm sure there is a tweak somewhere
  1612. # [14:20] <gfritzsche> whimboo: ui or chrome preferred?
  1613. # [14:20] <gfritzsche> no, the initial delay is not preffable
  1614. # [14:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6aad679bbbc0 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 1132395 - URL.createObjectURL must be able to work with workers without parents, r=smaug
  1615. # [14:20] <whimboo> gfritzsche: XPCOM is better for sure
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  1621. # [14:22] <gfritzsche> whimboo: just this then: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#1386
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  1627. # [14:23] <nemo> huh. weird. Safari nagged me on shutdown to shift my default browser from Firefox to Safari
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  1630. # [14:24] <nemo> bet if MS did that w/ IE people would have a fit
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  1676. # [14:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b94e871cfe12 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1112161 - IonMonkey: Pad fun.apply(...) stack. r=bbouvier
  1677. # [14:53] <RyanVM> Tomcat|sheriffduty: how we looking for merges?
  1678. # [14:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7154cb4aad2 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1112161 - Assert that Ion's fun.apply calls are correctly aligned. r=bbouvier
  1679. # [14:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2eca2e88f8e3 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1112160 - Baseline Stubs: Align Jit frames before calling any jitted code. r=jandem
  1680. # [14:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25c0f57abbdb - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 1112160 - Baseline Stubs: Align the stack when the number of argument is statically known. r=jandem
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  1689. # [14:57] <nemo> So, I was reading the DMO canvas page, which was the first I'd ever heard of "moz-opaque"
  1690. # [14:58] <nemo> is this a useful attribute to use? does it have any chance of being standardised? It seems not that terribly useful when you'd think the browser could flag a canvas with no transparent pixels
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  1693. # [14:58] <nemo> so if I did an initial floodfill, could achieve the same effect
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  1696. # [15:00] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/canvas#Attributes ← here
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  1734. # [15:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> Gijs: in about 35 minutes i can merge fx-team with your backout included \o/
  1735. # [15:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> btw thanks for the notice before :)
  1736. # [15:23] <Gijs> Tomcat|sheriffduty: great, thanks :)
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  1799. # [16:00] <Honza> Can I somehow force the toolbox to be opened before the first web page is loaded? (to track HTTP network activity from the very beginning)
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  1801. # [16:00] <Honza> ah, wrong room ...
  1802. # [16:00] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1816. # [16:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/fef1003fe34b - Mark Finkle - Bug 1130694 - Attempt to load thumbnails from DB if thumbnail is empty r=rnewman
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  1819. # [16:06] <froydnj> RyanVM: have I said how fantastic it is that you do all these uplifts?
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  1821. # [16:07] <RyanVM> :)
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  1828. # [16:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/fe7cf0796f85 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1123620 - Disable the one-time intro popup for the new searchbox UI for Firefox 37. r=Mossop, a=gavin
  1829. # [16:10] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/52263e093c85 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 1131788 - cubeb: Unable to use InterlockedAdd64 on MSVC2010 (and mingw). r=padenot, a=sledru
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  1834. # [16:14] <RyanVM> mayhemer: that Try push of yours has a ton of [@ mozilla::::RunWatchdog] crashes
  1835. # [16:15] <RyanVM> oh hai 13:33:03 INFO - 19 libxul.so!mozilla::net::CacheFileIOManager::Shutdown() [CacheFileIOManager.cpp:eb4fb9d0b230 : 1142 + 0xa] on the stack
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  1838. # [16:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/c5a75d4964d0 - Mike de Boer - Bug 1121210: notify UITour when the active tab changes and don't show the get started info panel when the rooms tab is not selected. r=MattN, a=sylvestre
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  1840. # [16:18] <RyanVM> mikedeboer++
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  1844. # [16:19] <mikedeboer> RyanVM: I made a mistake though, backing out and relanding :/
  1845. # [16:19] <RyanVM> mikedeboer--
  1846. # [16:19] <mikedeboer> haha
  1847. # [16:19] <mikedeboer> only human
  1848. # [16:19] <RyanVM> so I should cancel the builds on that push?
  1849. # [16:20] <mikedeboer> RyanVM: yes, that'd be great!
  1850. # [16:20] <froydnj> the sheriff giveth and the sheriff taketh away
  1851. # [16:21] <RyanVM> boy, I always love checkin-needed requests that involve adding a new test where the Try run only ran builds
  1852. # [16:22] <RyanVM> what could possibly go wrong
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  1856. # [16:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/26753029dbf5 - Mike de Boer - Backed out changeset c5a75d4964d0 (bug 1121210). a=backout
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  1858. # [16:23] <RyanVM> mikedeboer: in the future, backing out and relanding in one push is preferred
  1859. # [16:23] <RyanVM> to save resources
  1860. # [16:23] <mikedeboer> RyanVM: ah ok. I
  1861. # [16:23] <mikedeboer> *I'll remember that
  1862. # [16:24] <mikedeboer> RyanVM: would it save resources the cancel the backout build as well?
  1863. # [16:24] <RyanVM> yup, already on it
  1864. # [16:24] <mikedeboer> s/the/to
  1865. # [16:24] <RyanVM> you can also add a DONTBUILD in the future
  1866. # [16:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6da2e0fa5e15 - James Cowgill - Bug 1130434- xpcom: add support for mips n64 abi. r=froydnj
  1867. # [16:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9c9b41f58c4 - James Cowgill - Bug 1130438 - ipc/chromium: copy mips64 atomic patches from upstream chromium. r=froydnj
  1868. # [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/187c64254f7b - Heiher - Bug 1130909 - IonMonkey: MIPS: Fix compiling break in jsapi-tests with debug. r=rankov
  1869. # [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb18a5bf3a1c - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1131326 - Part 0: Implement the Debugger.Memory.prototype.allocationsLogOverflowed getter. r=shu
  1870. # [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67532392e5c2 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 1131326 - Part 1: Test Debugger.Memory.prototype.allocationsLogOverflowed. r=shu
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  1873. # [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/595dce3556ff - Julien Pagès - Bug 1132076 - [mozlog] Incorrect skip count in HTML log summary. r=davehunt
  1874. # [16:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e17fb71357c - JW Wang - Bug 1132366 - Correct place to call MediaKeys::Release() during shutdown. r=edwin
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  1885. # [16:31] <RyanVM> froydnj: Is adding a new IDL supposed to work OK, or should I just clobber preemptively on this checkin-needed push?
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  1889. # [16:34] <froydnj> RyanVM: um. it didn't work the other day, right?
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  1891. # [16:34] <RyanVM> well, that was adding an existing one to XPIDL_SOURCES
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  1893. # [16:34] <RyanVM> but yeah, fair enough
  1894. # [16:34] <RyanVM> i'll just clobber
  1895. # [16:34] <RyanVM> wheeee
  1896. # [16:34] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
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  1898. # [16:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=fff3275b879f - 11 changesets
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  1931. # [16:56] <RyanVM> froydnj: you learned to tie your tuples?
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  1933. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/d2fad87c4e02 - Mike de Boer - Bug 1121210: notify UITour when the active tab changes and don't show the get started info panel when the rooms tab is not selected. r=MattN, a=sylvestre
  1934. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/d28a934ef786 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 1112519 - Clear mDropVideoUntilNextDiscontinuity when we do not seek. r=cpearce, a=lmandel
  1935. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/ae9e003dc9c4 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1130231 - Properly logicalize the implementation of padding on button contents. r=smontagu, a=lmandel
  1936. # [16:56] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/70ec858b085e - Jonathan Kew - Bug 1130231 - Reftest for left/right padding on button contents with direction=rtl. r=smontagu, a=lmandel
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  1953. # [17:02] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Nice what?
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  1955. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> Yoric, the sync xhr thread on webapps
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  1960. # [17:04] <Yoric> Yeah, I liked the thread that somehow shifted from "anybody who deprecates Sync XHR is a criminal because it's going to break some websites" to "we need to access the DOM from workers, and if we need to completely break the DOM for all existing users, so be it" :)
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  2002. # [17:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/eb77152f1233 - Seth Fowler - Bug 1130328 - Part 1: Add support for an optional frame-space damage rect to nsIFrame::InvalidateLayer. r=mattwoodrow, a=sledru
  2003. # [17:24] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/95d83f3422fc - Seth Fowler - Bug 1130328 - Part 2: Update nsImageFrame to always use InvalidateLayer when handling FRAME_UPDATE. r=tn, a=sledru
  2004. # [17:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/57f79302248f - Matthew Gregan - Bug 1131788 - cubeb: Unable to use InterlockedAdd64 on MSVC2010 (and mingw). r=padenot, a=sledru
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  2008. # [17:26] <froydnj> Yoric: where is this?
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  2013. # [17:28] <Yoric> froydnj: "Do not deprecate synchronous XMLHttpRequest" thread on public-webapps.
  2014. # [17:28] <Yoric> @w3.org
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  2016. # [17:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/f8df147bfc8a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 70ec858b085e and ae9e003dc9c4 (bug 1130231) for bustage.
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  2019. # [17:32] <nemo> hm...
  2020. # [17:33] <nemo> was Touch Events simulation removed from Responsive Design Mode in nightlies?
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  2022. # [17:33] <nemo> oh. that's e10s only
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  2040. # [17:46] <padenot> Is the S job on treeherder something that uses clang?
  2041. # [17:46] <froydnj> yes
  2042. # [17:46] <padenot> cool
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  2054. # [17:57] <jesup> What's the tree closure for? ETA?
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  2068. # [18:04] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ^
  2069. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> buildbot not starting jobs for a long time
  2070. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> followed by mass-coalescing
  2071. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no ETA
  2072. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "when it's caught up and green"
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  2074. # [18:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> note that inbound tip has builds requested 90+min ago that are still pending
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  2078. # [18:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and 8 pushes with mass test pending backlogs
  2079. # [18:07] <jesup> Tomcat|afk: ping
  2080. # [18:07] <jesup> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ouch
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  2083. # [18:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: he's gone, what do you need?
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  2092. # [18:12] <jesup> weird issues with flash blocklists (see #security)
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  2094. # [18:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ah
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  2097. # [18:12] <jesup> np
  2098. # [18:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that said, didn't he get out of that game?
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  2173. # [18:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/b6a819d64147 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1124494 - Disable testOSLocale on Android 2.3 due to frequent failures.
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  2179. # [18:49] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/f1c5ebda7ecf - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1124494 - Disable testOSLocale on Android 2.3 due to frequent failures. a=test-only
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  2232. # [19:14] <bz> Do we have any sort of ETA on tree opening?
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  2236. # [19:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: no
  2237. # [19:15] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok, thanks
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  2250. # [19:18] <rstrong> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Just a heads up that I'll be re-enabling the consumerNotificaton.js xpcshell test under unit_timermanager for Android sometime today since it passed multiple try runs.
  2251. # [19:18] <mccr8> jmaher: is mochitest browser-chrome currently run-by-dirs?
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  2254. # [19:18] <rstrong> RyanVM|sheriffduty: via bug 1128005
  2255. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> k
  2256. # [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mccr8: yes
  2257. # [19:19] <mccr8> ok, thanks.
  2258. # [19:20] <jmaher> mccr8: yes- all browser-chrome and devtools are
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  2262. # [19:20] <jmaher> rstrong: thanks for fixing the 0999 test case for run-by-dir; btw, there are a couple other issues in the same updates directory while running --run-by-dir
  2263. # [19:21] <rstrong> jmaher: bug numbers?
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  2265. # [19:21] <rstrong> or details on irc?
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  2268. # [19:22] <jmaher> rstrong: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1131290
  2269. # [19:23] <jmaher> rstrong: and a couple other instances in a try run (linux debug): https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=2052fea1dc91&filter-searchStr=debug
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  2274. # [19:26] <rstrong> jmaher: I'll look into them. How would I enable run-by-dir on try?
  2275. # [19:27] <jmaher> rstrong: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/diff/2052fea1dc91/testing/mochitest/runtests.py; likewise I could do a variety of suggestions you might have
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  2277. # [19:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jmaher: btw, you do realize that bug 1081354 basically conditions us to ignore failures in xperf?
  2278. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> We don't yet?
  2279. # [19:28] <jmaher> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hmm, I didn't realize it was a big problem- I can probably fix a few of the common issues
  2280. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: pretty much defaults to "star it as the usual failure" and then worry if you see two in a row
  2281. # [19:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh hey, /me does that now
  2282. # [19:29] <jmaher> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok- it is bumped up on my list
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  2334. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: at what point in time is WMFDecoderModule::Init typically called?
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  2336. # [19:57] <cpearce> bsmedberg: every time we start decoding an MP4 video
  2337. # [19:57] <@bsmedberg> ah it's per-video, not per browser instance...
  2338. # [19:57] <cpearce> bsmedberg: correct, it's a factory pattern.
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  2340. # [19:57] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: why is it setting static variables?
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  2344. # [19:59] <cpearce> bsmedberg: to cache prefs it needs on the main thread, since we can't access those prefs off main thread, where the rest of the video stack runs.
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  2347. # [20:00] <cpearce> bsmedberg: they could be non static
  2348. # [20:01] <poiru> RyanVM|sheriffduty: On which branches do we want to enable the UUID bump hook?
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  2352. # [20:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> everything but Try sounds good to me :)
  2353. # [20:02] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: so if we were dynamically changing the value of media.windows-media-foundation.use-dxva while a video was being watched, that wouldn't harm the system?
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  2355. # [20:02] <poiru> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Cool, thanks.
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  2359. # [20:02] <cpearce> bsmedberg: that's right, you'd need a restart for that pref to take effect
  2360. # [20:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> poiru: though I guess the correct answer is "Whatever other branches we run all the usual hooks on" i.e. bug number in the commit message, no Try syntax, etc
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  2363. # [20:03] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: hrm I don't understand. If we're reading the pref every time we start decoding a video...
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  2369. # [20:03] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> poiru: thanks again for doing that - it'll be a huge help
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  2372. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> the goal really is to honor the pref dynamically, since that's how experiments typically start
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  2374. # [20:04] <bz> So if I want to have a mochitest
  2375. # [20:04] <bz> which dispatches a click event
  2376. # [20:04] <bz> How do I actually do that?
  2377. # [20:04] <bz> Doing it off onload dispatches the event to the previous document
  2378. # [20:04] <bz> doing it off an executeSoon fron onload, same thing
  2379. # [20:05] <cpearce> bsmedberg: the caller, PlatformDecoderModule::Init() has a sentinel to prevent it running more than once. sorry, we don't call WMFDecoderModule::Init() on every video, only on the *first* video
  2380. # [20:05] <cpearce> startup.
  2381. # [20:05] <cpearce> bsmedberg: these should just be prefcache's rather than pref reads.
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  2383. # [20:06] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: with an atomic, I suppose...
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  2388. # [20:06] <@bsmedberg> assuming WMFDecoderModule::CreateVideoDecoder is off the main thread
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  2390. # [20:06] <cpearce> pref cache's need to be on atomic bools? Oops, didn't know that...
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  2392. # [20:07] <cpearce> yes, every other function there runs off main thread
  2393. # [20:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: maybe mwargers?
  2394. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> cpearce: well, if you're going to read them from a different thread
  2395. # [20:07] <cpearce> indeed.
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  2401. # [20:08] <mwargers> bz, use an iframe to dispatch the click event into instead of the test document itself?
  2402. # [20:09] <mwargers> I don't understand how a click event can be dispatched to the previous document, btw
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  2406. # [20:09] <froydnj> bsmedberg: we already have races from cached prefs being shared between threads =/
  2407. # [20:10] <bz> mwargers: well, because it goes through chrome dispatch
  2408. # [20:10] <bz> mwargers: chrome event dispatch
  2409. # [20:10] <bz> mwargers: And at that point we have not yet started painting the new document or something
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  2411. # [20:10] <mwargers> oh, ok
  2412. # [20:10] <bz> mwargers: so it gets dispatched to the previous one.
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  2415. # [20:12] <bz> Wow
  2416. # [20:12] <bz> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=6d1270aefbd3
  2417. # [20:12] <bz> No orange
  2418. # [20:12] <bz> What's wrong?
  2419. # [20:12] <bz> Oh, I know; I didn't run b2g tests....
  2420. # [20:12] * froydnj thought "didn't run tests" was too facile of an answer
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  2427. # [20:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mayhemer: ping
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  2431. # [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: can you help me with a commit message on bug 881830?
  2432. # [20:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or I can just tell mayhemer to land it himself later
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  2435. # [20:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/9d4e384f97c0 - Alfredo Yang - Bug 1127725 - free media element node to release decoder. r=cajbir a=testonly
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  2438. # [20:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6570571&repo=mozilla-inbound looks real
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  2440. # [20:22] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looking
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  2442. # [20:23] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: indeed it does look real. could you back out? i'll need to investigate
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  2444. # [20:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: sure
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  2447. # [20:24] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks
  2448. # [20:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> np
  2449. # [20:24] <bz> froydnj: I totally ran tests
  2450. # [20:24] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: looking
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  2452. # [20:25] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/e081d3fbd502 - JW Wang - Bug 934053 - log media element events for debugging. r=cpearce a=testonly
  2453. # [20:25] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: "Make CORS redirect handling ignore redirects due to an STS upgrade."
  2454. # [20:25] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
  2455. # [20:25] <bz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: You're welcome
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  2460. # [20:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b94fcb274a1 - Honza Bambas - Bug 881830 - Make CORS redirect handling ignore redirects due to an STS upgrade. r=bz
  2461. # [20:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dac58ad1d7f2 - Mark Goodwin - Bug 1092055 - Show security messages for subresources. r=mcmanus
  2462. # [20:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d393df30168d - Mark Goodwin - Bug 1092055 - Test that webconsole messages show up for non-top level security errors. r=past
  2463. # [20:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c067523b4d1a - Aaron Klotz - Bug 1132305 - Ensure that BHR knows when thread activity has resumed in nextEventMatchingMask. r=smichaud
  2464. # [20:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc3dc843772d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 07b8436dc3bb and 9fd1f192c0e8 (bug 1130982) for B2G async-scrolling/nested-1.html reftest failures.
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  2471. # [20:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> janx: jryans: does bug 1090949 need the leave-open anymore?
  2472. # [20:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2b9834775157 - Krzysztof Mioduszewski - Bug 1132007 - Initialise _iccChannelCalback in RilContentHelper.js. r=echen
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  2475. # [20:36] <jryans> RyanVM|sheriffduty: not sure what janx intends, and he may be gone for the day
  2476. # [20:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it was set on earlier checkins
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  2479. # [20:38] <erahm_> smaug: ping
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  2482. # [20:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/632df219369f - Jan Keromnes - Bug 1090949 - Give WebIDE full control over simulator addons. r=ochameau
  2483. # [20:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/35d9b7e0d58a - Jordan Santell - Bug 1130901 - Export patched methods in call-watcher actor with Cu.exportFunctions so that Function.prototype methods can be called without permission errors. r=vp
  2484. # [20:39] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/adc101cabb7f - Jan Keromnes - Bug 1132448 - Don't log CONNECTION_REFUSED errors when they're expected. r=ochameau
  2485. # [20:40] <@smaug> erahm_: pong
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  2487. # [20:40] <erahm_> smaug: do you know of any prefs that impact bfcache behavior?
  2488. # [20:41] <@smaug> just a sec, looking at the pref names
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  2490. # [20:41] <erahm_> smaug: and perhaps more vaguely: ways of loading URLs that would cause different bfcache behavior. I'm looking at some memory regression in our awsy tests related to switching from mozmill to marionette
  2491. # [20:41] <mccr8> smaug: erahm_ found that AreWeSlimYet when run on marionette seems to be keeping alive one more page in the bf cache per tab than with mozmill, is the context here.
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  2497. # [20:44] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#7960 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/shistory/src/nsSHistory.cpp#40 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/shistory/src/nsSHEntryShared.cpp#30
  2498. # [20:44] <@smaug> erahm_: I think those 4
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  2500. # [20:45] <@smaug> erahm_: is it possible that mozmill uses beforeunload/unload event listeners for something?
  2501. # [20:45] <@smaug> and adds the listeners to the window object
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  2503. # [20:45] <@smaug> and marionette does something else, so we end up actually using bfcache
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  2507. # [20:46] <erahm_> smaug: ok, so you're saying if there are beforeunload/unload event listeners bfcache is bypassed?
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  2509. # [20:46] <@smaug> yes
  2510. # [20:46] <fitzgen> khuey: ping
  2511. # [20:46] <@smaug> if they are in the window object
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  2514. # [20:47] <erahm_> smaug: ok thanks! That's a good start
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  2516. # [20:47] <@smaug> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsDocument.cpp?mark=8790-8790,8793-8793#8778 mScriptGlobalObject is the 'window' object in JS
  2517. # [20:48] <@smaug> and "unload" there means unload or beforeunload
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  2519. # [20:48] <@smaug> erahm_: if unload is currently used, you probably want pagehide event
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  2523. # [20:49] <erahm_> I wonder if I should just keep the "regression" then, it seems we weren't testing bfcache before and now we are, which is probably a good thing
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  2527. # [20:51] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: speaking of the commit message and checkin-needed, isn't there some automation util for this? it's actually what takes lot of the time for me.
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  2529. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mayhemer: how exactly should automation guess a commit message for you?
  2530. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> how hard is commit --amend?
  2531. # [20:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or qref -e
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  2533. # [20:52] <mayhemer> if there is none in the patch, just take the Bug # - bug title, r=reviewer
  2534. # [20:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/2360643e1c2f - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
  2535. # [20:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/749d8f6b07b2 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
  2536. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, except that's a BS commit message
  2537. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities#Checkin_comment
  2538. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and I also need to manually fill in your email address since that can't be gathered over the bmo REST api
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  2540. # [20:52] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> so I have to amend that manually
  2541. # [20:53] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it shouldn't be that difficult to configure hg to generate patches with at least your name and email address properly included
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  2543. # [20:53] <@bsmedberg> reviewers should be reviewing the commit messages to begin with
  2544. # [20:54] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: not a bad idea to include -U by default, but I'm not sure how --amend works
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  2547. # [20:54] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> hg commit --amend opens an editor to change your commit message
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  2550. # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or you can use hg histedit
  2551. # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> or if you're an mq fan, qref -e
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  2553. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> Is ehsan back yet?
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  2555. # [20:55] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> wasn't he gone for like 4wk?
  2556. # [20:56] <froydnj> Ms2ger: another week or so, I thinkl
  2557. # [20:56] <bz> ehsan++
  2558. # [20:56] <jimm> 20th I think
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  2560. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> bz, you should do that ;)
  2561. # [20:57] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I used to use hg qref -U -m "message"
  2562. # [20:57] <mayhemer> kinda more convenient
  2563. # [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> that works fine too
  2564. # [20:57] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> point is, I don't see what's so onerous about that?
  2565. # [20:58] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it takes time to copy paste all the bug#, message, reviewers etc...
  2566. # [20:58] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you're saying that to someone who does that multiple times daily...
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  2570. # [20:59] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yep, and that's why I asked about some tool that could help you (and me :))
  2571. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> qimportbz can sorta do it
  2572. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but like I said, it has limitations
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  2574. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if you give the patch a useful description, it'll use it
  2575. # [20:59] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but it still can't get your bmo email address
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  2578. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and since you can't assume that bmo email address = hg commit address, that means I need to now manually look at what commit info you use for hg
  2579. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and add it manually
  2580. # [21:00] <mayhemer> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I'll check on that and put my patches with ci message since now, thanks
  2581. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but hey, at least you saved a few seconds
  2582. # [21:00] <mayhemer> I added qnew=-U to my .hgrc
  2583. # [21:00] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thanks
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  2588. # [21:01] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (one thing I happen to love about MozReview - much better odds that such info is actually there when a patch is ready to land)
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  2590. # [21:02] <jesup> The tree has not been a happy place today... (or the infra I guess)
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  2593. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: we're past the worst of it now
  2594. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> now it's catch-up time
  2595. # [21:02] <jesup> cool
  2596. # [21:02] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> fresh pushes to each of the integration branches to avoid the coalesced mess below them
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  2601. # [21:05] <erahm_> smaug: so it does look like mozmill was using 'beforeunload' which probably explains the discrepancy
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  2624. # [21:12] <vladan> garvank: pong
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  2631. # [21:14] <garvank> vladan my telemetry probe is in nightly (as of yesterday), but isn't recording any results. But before I ping you with more questions, let me walk through this myself a bit more. There is likely an explanation that I am missing.
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  2637. # [21:16] <garvank> ...and I found it... in about:config, a default setting has changed and the code isn't hit as i expected
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  2642. # [21:19] <vladan> garvank: Telemetry submission was also broken recently by one of the FHR/Telemetry unification patches
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  2647. # [21:19] <garvank> vladan ok good to know
  2648. # [21:20] <vladan> garvank: it's fixed now, but there were outages in the Feb 4-Feb 10 nightlies
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  2653. # [21:21] <vladan> garvank: the telemetry twitter announces this kind of stuff https://twitter.com/MozTelemetry
  2654. # [21:21] <vladan> (for future use)
  2655. # [21:22] <garvank> vladan thanks! i'll check that in future
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  2658. # [21:26] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you happen to know when try will be opened again?
  2659. # [21:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: let me see what the backlog looks like
  2660. # [21:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: thanks for the ping - it's low enough to reopen
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  2662. # [21:27] <@smaug> great
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  2692. # [22:03] <Kwan> OS X 10.6 tests run on the 10.8 build, right? since they don't have their own B on treeherder
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  2698. # [22:06] <mccr8> Kwan: yes
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  2700. # [22:07] <Kwan> sweet, so if I ever want the 10.6 opt test to run, retriggering that infra-fail 10.8 opt build is the right thing to do
  2701. # [22:07] <Kwan> mccr8: thanks
  2702. # [22:07] <mccr8> yeah I think so
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  2708. # [22:13] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: what are the retriggers of the mochitests?
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  2711. # [22:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: be more specific? Not sure what you'rea sking
  2712. # [22:14] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: If this a SIGTRAP in JITted code, you might want to backout Bug 1130481
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  2715. # [22:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: I still don't know what you're referring to
  2716. # [22:14] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I am just currious, and I care that not all these patches are going away too fast :P
  2717. # [22:15] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh, I referring to m-i
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  2719. # [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what retriggers?
  2720. # [22:16] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the OSX one on m-i
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  2723. # [22:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: we've been having infra issues most of the day
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  2725. # [22:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> what you're seeing is almost certainly a result of that?
  2726. # [22:17] * RyanVM|sheriffduty hasn't retriggered anything on your push
  2727. # [22:17] <nbp> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok :)
  2728. # [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nbp: the only issue on my radar right now is Gu orange on b-i
  2729. # [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aside from infra
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  2755. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> gaston, btw, Servo is now on a rustc version that might support openbsd
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  2761. # [22:40] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74f7ada4dcc9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 943863 - MOAR FUZZ on Android for box-sizing-replaced-002.xht.
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  2784. # [22:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/39c0f3dac604 - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1128939: Part2. Make sure we limit read to buffer size and handle error nicely. r=k17e a=abillings
  2785. # [22:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/089b5e6cd72e - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1128939: Part3. Allocate media buffer internal memory dynamically. r=k17e a=abillings
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  2797. # [23:01] <whimboo|away> Mossop: hi. are you around?
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  2816. # [23:06] <Mossop> whimboo|away: Hi
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  2818. # [23:07] <whimboo|away> Mossop: solved my problem. so to install an extension from a host, we have to set the new pref to false and also have to white-list it inside the permissions
  2819. # [23:08] <whimboo|away> i was updating some of the tests but was missing it
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  2826. # [23:10] <Mossop> whimboo: Ok :)
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  2846. # [23:19] <whimboo> chmanchester: k, an updated patch is up for you
  2847. # [23:20] <chmanchester> whimboo, ok (bugzilla requests are usually sufficient)
  2848. # [23:20] <whimboo> i will head to bed in a bit
  2849. # [23:20] <whimboo> so i hope all will be clear to you :)
  2850. # [23:21] <chmanchester> whimboo, should I look at it right away then?
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  2852. # [23:22] <whimboo> if youhave the time
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  2854. # [23:22] <whimboo> those are the p1 failures we have at the moment
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  2856. # [23:23] <gaston> Ms2ger: that's on the "to look at when having free time" list ;)
  2857. # [23:23] <Ms2ger> :)
  2858. # [23:23] <whimboo> chmanchester: ups. wrong channel :)
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  2896. # [23:40] <janx> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hello! could you please back out "Give WebIDE full control over simulator addons" from bug 1090949 ? I messed things up on that apple platform
  2897. # [23:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> janx: sure thing
  2898. # [23:41] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> janx: is https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=1985510&repo=fx-team your doing then? :)
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  2900. # [23:41] <janx> RyanVM|sheriffduty: thanks! not that error doesn't look related sorry
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  2905. # [23:42] <janx> RyanVM|sheriffduty: the tests guarding from mistakes like mine are not landed yet
  2906. # [23:43] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2c97566c3cb7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 632df219369f (bug 1090949) for OSX issues.
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  2908. # [23:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> janx: ^
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  2914. # [23:47] <janx> RyanVM|sheriffduty: cool thanks
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  2918. # [23:50] <@smaug> RyanVM|sheriffduty: will m-i stay closed still a long time?
  2919. # [23:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> no
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  2921. # [23:51] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> smaug: about to do some merges, then will reopen
  2922. # [23:51] <@smaug> k
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  2925. # [23:54] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=f969dd9c7a05 - 31 changesets
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