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# [00:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/bc294677d64c - Richard Newman - Bug 1135900 - Add ReadingListItems.ALL_FIELDS.
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# [00:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4609e3416015 - Robert Strong - Bug 1135563 - Fix several javascript warnings for xpcshell app update tests and cleanup style. r=spohl
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# [00:21] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/eb6ee2f081b1 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset 42269ccaf982 (bug 1107695) for bc1 orange
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# [00:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d472aa32cecf - Markus Stange - Bug 1123019 - Shrink clipped stroked rectangles and stroked lines. r=jrmuizel
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# [00:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3de841d2574d - Robert Strong - Followup to Bug 1135563 - uiUnsupportedAlreadyNotified.js doesn't use httpd.js. r=me
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# [00:34] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2bbb4ac2a49e - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 1134443 - Update Readability.js from shared library on github. r=bnicholson
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# [00:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b03d751ecd0 - Brian Smith - Bug 1135407: Factor out duplicate logic in tests, r=keeler
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# [01:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9aa1baf04e80 - Eddy Bruël - Bug 1129834 - Store BreakpointActors by original location;r=jlong
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# [01:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c1d72213f4b2 - Jared Wein - Bug 1047040 - Add browser-specific graphic of GUM prompt to the media-wait message. r=dmose
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# [01:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e62f5232484a - Wes Kocher - Merge fx-team to m-c a=merge
# [01:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=368c62292249 - 46 changesets
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# [01:16] <xidorn> how can I enable a pref on FxOS?
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# [01:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f92594c0d0a - Brian Smith - Bug 1077864, Part 3: update nsserrors.properties so error message gets localized.
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# [01:21] <@roc> xidorn: modify the prefs file and reboot I think
# [01:22] <xidorn> roc, via adb?
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# [01:24] <fabrice1> xidorn: no need for a full reboot. Just do adb shell stop b2g && adb shell start b2g
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# [01:26] <xidorn> fabrice1, thanks, I meant I should modify the prefs file via adb, right?
# [01:27] <fabrice1> xidorn: you can just push a new pref file to /system/b2g/defaults/pref/
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# [01:27] <fabrice1> or modify the existing user.js that is there
# [01:28] <xidorn> fabrice1, ok, thanks very much
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# [01:44] <heycam> can someone please remind me how to get debug builds out of the tryserver that aren't stripped?
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# [01:46] <edwin> heycam: MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_UPLOAD_FULL_SYMBOLS=1 ?
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# [01:47] <edwin> oops, not that one
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# [01:47] <heycam> edwin, yeah I think that one just uploads a bigger separate symbols file
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# [01:48] <heycam> it's something to do with removing PKG_SKIP_STRIP somewhere
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# [01:49] <heycam> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/developers/20140728#l-163
# [01:49] <heycam> thanks nthomas-of-the-past :)
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# [01:50] <nthomas> heh
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# [01:51] <nthomas> there's quite a lot of stuff on https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
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# [01:52] <heycam> I wonder if there's a tool that lets you use crashreporter-format symbols in gdb
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# [01:54] <seth> if i don't see any crashes for a certain signature on 36, but i see hundreds on 35 in the last few days, is that decent evidence that the crash is fixed in 36?
# [01:54] <seth> or is the release audience so much larger that it doesn't prove much?
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# [01:55] <heycam> edwin, would like something that lets me gdb usefull though
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# [02:40] <heycam> what does it mean when I click the retrigger button on treeherder and it tells me "Unable to send retrigger: Authentication credentials were not provided."
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# [02:41] <philor> heycam: it might mean that today's prod push broke retriggering when you aren't already logged it through persona - are you aren't?
# [02:41] <heycam> philor, no. but I just did log in with persona, and now it works.
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# [02:41] <heycam> although presumably it's not using that persona login for the auth, as it pops up the usual HTTP auth dialog
# [02:42] <nigelb> ,prmomg
# [02:42] <heycam> when I click retrigger
# [02:42] <nigelb> er
# [02:42] <nigelb> morning
# [02:42] <philor> nigelb: shift a little to the left in your chair
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# [02:45] <philor> heycam: yeah, what I was thinking of was https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077053 which is miles from actually being deployed, so something must have just accidentally broken it
# [02:46] <heycam> ok
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# [03:12] <seth> froydnj: quick question if you're around
# [03:13] <froydnj> seth: what's up?
# [03:13] <seth> froydnj: i want to write a patch to change the definition of NS_IMPL_QUERY_BODY_CONDITIONAL here: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsISupportsImpl.h#833
# [03:14] <seth> froydnj: what i want is to check that |this| is non-null before checking the condition
# [03:14] * froydnj is kind of scared now
# [03:14] <seth> froydnj: so if the code generated by this macro runs on a null pointer, it doesn't crash
# [03:14] <froydnj> wait, what?
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# [03:14] <froydnj> you want to be able to call foo->method() and have everything be OK if foo is null?
# [03:14] <seth> froydnj: i was going to ask "does this seem reasonable?", but perhaps i have my answer? =)
# [03:15] <seth> froydnj: my expectation is that passing nullptr to do_QueryInterface is safe
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# [03:15] <froydnj> it is indeed
# [03:15] <seth> froydnj: that's usually true, but not if QI is defined with NS_INTERFACE_MAP_ENTRY_CONDITIONAL
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# [03:16] <seth> froydnj: i observe that situation causing a null dereference crash
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# [03:17] <seth> froydnj: it would be possible to check this in the condition, but it seems to me that you'd want to do it everywhere, and people would forget
# [03:17] <froydnj> seth: that's because the null check is done before QI is even called: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCOMPtr.cpp#13
# [03:18] <seth> froydnj: hmmm... odd!
# [03:18] <froydnj> at least...hm, let me look
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# [03:18] <dmajor> that was my understanding as well
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# [03:20] <dmajor> for QI in particular, wouldn't you blow up on the vtable access?
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# [03:20] <froydnj> seth: so yeah, nsCOMPtr::operator= cooperates with do_QueryInterface/CallQueryInterface/nsQueryInterface: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCOMPtr.h#1038
# [03:20] <froydnj> seth: and the right thing happens for null pointers
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# [03:22] <froydnj> dmajor: yeah, I guess you'd never even get to the QI body in that case, wouldn't you?
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# [03:23] <seth> froydnj: hmm, very odd. i think you've successfully debunked that theory, so something else must be happening. thanks!
# [03:23] <seth> dmajor: heh, that's true
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# [03:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb3723075149 - John Daggett - Bug 1135567 - disable printing reftests that fail with downloadable font cache disabled. r=m_kato
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# [04:17] <dmajor> Waldo: for a nonvirtual function, it can happen (in practice at least. dunno about the spec's stance)
# [04:18] <Waldo> dmajor: the spec says if it's "happened" you've triggered UB already, so compilers can perfectly well assume it never happens and elide all handling code
# [04:19] <Waldo> with the exception of unevaluated contexts, of course, like sizeof(this != nullptr) :_)
# [04:19] <Waldo> s/_/-/
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# [04:19] <Waldo> clang at least warns if you null-check this, or null-check the address of a reference, etc.
# [04:20] <dmajor> Waldo: okay, sure. the spec can say whatever it wants. I still deal with real-world stuff :)
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# [04:20] <froydnj> haha
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# [04:20] <dmajor> in a previous codebase I found |if(this == nullptr)| being used deliberately. (Though I did clean it up, of course)
# [04:20] <Waldo> dmajor: real-world compilers? :-P
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# [04:21] * Waldo frowns upon, the use of undefined behavior, IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT :-)
# [04:22] <dmajor> I frown upon it because it means somebody's probably doing something dumb. Not (necessarily) because it's UB :)
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# [04:23] <Waldo> well, it's both
# [04:23] <Waldo> and it's not gonna work, either
# [04:25] <philor> heycam: I was sort of close, you now have to log in because retriggering non-buildbot jobs wants to have a pulse message sent that includes who you are, so bug 1113281
# [04:25] <philor> the message could use a bit of improvement, though
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# [04:27] <philor> useless annoyance to you that will be useful for someone else in the near future, instead of useless annoyance to you that will be useful to you in the far future
# [04:28] <heycam> assuming I don't get logged out of treeherder, an annoyance I've dealt with until then
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# [04:29] <heycam> if I want to push a patch on top of mozilla-b2g37_v2_2 to try, and have it run just like it would if I landed the change on that branch, do I need to do anything special?
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# [04:29] <philor> quite likely, yes
# [04:30] <philor> (as is getting logged out of treeherder, but I won't mention that part)
# [04:30] <heycam> might explain why I'm having trouble reproing this failure
# [04:30] <heycam> do you know what change I need to make or where I can find out?
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# [04:32] <philor> actually, maybe it should just work, but how to find out is to ask 20 minutes earlier, before RyanVM quit
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# [04:33] <philor> in theory, everything should be pinned by the in-tree sources file, so you should be getting a build off the same things, but that's just theory
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# [04:40] <Unfocused> one small step for UnifiedComplete, one giant leap for not pissing people off
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# [04:42] <heycam> that solves the issue of the autocompletion not being ready before I hit enter?
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# [04:42] <Unfocused> heycam: yep (if you have unifiedcomplete enabled)
# [04:42] <heycam> Unfocused, oh, I don't :p
# [04:43] <heycam> Unfocused, what is unifiedcomplete then?
# [04:43] <Unfocused> still a couple of showstopper bugs to fix before i can re-enable it by default though. gonna be awhile til i can get to those :\
# [04:44] <Unfocused> heycam: oh, it's the new urlbar autocomplete component. lets us do a bunch of things, but the main visible change at the moment is that the first result always shows what happens when you hit enter without manually selecting a result
# [04:44] <heycam> Unfocused, ok, makes sense
# [04:45] <heycam> Unfocused, I think I remember that being enabled briefly in the past...
# [04:45] <Unfocused> yep
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# [08:58] <whimboo> flod: good morning
# [08:58] <flod> whimboo: hi, so you still exist :-) (lost track of you in #running)
# [08:59] <whimboo> yeah. irc decided to not join this channel
# [08:59] <whimboo> flod: mind having a look at http://mozmill-release.blargon7.com/#/functional/failure?app=Firefox&branch=37&platform=Win&from=2015-02-23&to=2015-02-24&test=%2FtestTabbedBrowsing%2FtestNewTab.js&func=testNewTab
# [08:59] <whimboo> we have a couple of locales faiing with 37.0b1
# [09:00] <whimboo> looks like that for those we do not show the correct new tab title
# [09:00] <whimboo> here a better link
# [09:00] <whimboo> http://mozmill-release.blargon7.com/#/functional/failure?app=Firefox&branch=37&platform=Linux&from=2015-02-23&to=2015-02-24&test=%2FtestTabbedBrowsing%2FtestNewTab.js&func=testNewTab
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# [09:02] <flod> I really suck at understanding Mozmill
# [09:02] <flod> this string seems right http://transvision.mozfr.org/?sourcelocale=en-US&locale=xh&repo=beta&search_type=entities&recherche=browser/chrome/browser/newTab.dtd:newtab.pageTitle
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# [09:04] <whimboo> flod: can you do a reverse search for 'Isilungelelanisi Semigca Esitsha'?
# [09:04] <flod> you're comparing two different strings
# [09:04] <whimboo> oh its tabs.emptyTabTitle
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# [09:05] <flod> http://transvision.mozfr.org/?recherche=New+Tab&repo=beta&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=xh&search_type=strings&case_sensitive=case_sensitive&perfect_match=perfect_match
# [09:05] <flod> sorry, right link: http://transvision.mozfr.org/?recherche=New+Tab&repo=beta&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=xh&search_type=strings&case_sensitive=case_sensitive&perfect_match=perfect_match
# [09:05] <whimboo> i might have an idea why we are failing
# [09:05] <flod> you're mixing the 2nd and 3rd
# [09:05] <flod> I agree that's an issue in the localization (lack of consistency), but it shouldn't probably fail a test in mozmill
# [09:07] <whimboo> flod: what we do is to get the entity like "getEntity(tabBrowser.getDtds(), "newtab.pageTitle"
# [09:08] <whimboo> and compare it
# [09:08] <flod> whimboo: but clearly, where the test is failing the code is actually using 'tabs.emptyTabTitle'
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# [09:09] <flod> so you try to compare tabs.emptyTabTitle with newtab.pageTitle, and find a consistency error in the localization, not a code error
# [09:09] <whimboo> flod: lemme test such a locale
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# [09:09] <whimboo> flod: that's what our test is for
# [09:10] <flod> wait, isn't the text about checking that the correct label is displayed? That's not what you're currently doing
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# [09:10] <flod> s/test
# [09:10] <whimboo> why not?
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# [09:11] <flod> scope of the test: open a new tab, check that the correct label is displayed
# [09:12] <flod> if 'xh' fails, it's because you're testing 'newtab.pageTitle', while you should be testing 'tabs.emptyTabTitle'
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# [09:12] <whimboo> i can repro the fialure locally. lemme see
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# [09:12] <flod> all the other locales pass because they consistently translate "New Tab" in the same way
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# [09:23] <whimboo> flod: we clearly show the wrong title
# [09:23] <whimboo> it works the first time but fails for all the other opening methods
# [09:24] <whimboo> i will find a manual repro case here
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# [09:31] <whimboo> flod: compared with latest beta for 36 and its clearly a regression in firefox
# [09:31] <flod> :-\
# [09:31] <whimboo> no clear steps yet but workign on it
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# [09:40] <whimboo> flod: got it. for manual steps simply start the build and open a new tab
# [09:41] <whimboo> you will see that the wrong label is shown
# [09:41] <whimboo> with about:newtab preloading turned off you have to open two tabs
# [09:42] <whimboo> i will file a bug
# [09:42] <whimboo> most likely a regression with about:newtab
# [09:43] <flod> please CC me ;-)
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# [09:49] <whimboo> flod: bug 1136042
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# [09:51] <whimboo> flod: i will skip this test for now
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# [09:52] <flod> ok
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# [10:15] <anirudhgp> Hi! Can anyone help me with this bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118741
# [10:15] <anirudhgp> How do I run the tests mentioned in comment 0?
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# [10:32] <darktrojan> anirudhgp, looks like you should be able to run "mach web-platform-tests"
# [10:32] <darktrojan> (I don't really know, just thought I'd try to help)
# [10:35] <anirudhgp> darktrojan: Ok I'll try that :) Waiting for Ms2ger to come online!
# [10:35] <darktrojan> he's usually here by now
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# [10:43] <anirudhgp> How do I check which version of gaia is built on my PC?
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# [10:50] <edmorley> darktrojan: yeah you just can't get the staff nowadays :-)
# [10:50] <darktrojan> heh
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# [11:22] <jya> past: ping
# [11:22] <past> jya: pong
# [11:22] <jya> past: I see no video with autoplay on that page http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/03/truecaller-brings-smarter-features-to-its-phonebook-app-as-it-passes-100m-registered-users/
# [11:22] <jya> there’s only an ad at the top, and that’s flash
# [11:22] <past> oh, it's not autoplay
# [11:23] <past> there is a video at the end of the article
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# [11:23] <jya> the youtube one?
# [11:23] <past> yes
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# [11:23] <past> I'm doing a debug build now to get you your detailed log
# [11:23] <jya> does it crash immediately when you start playing it ?
# [11:23] <jya> thanks
# [11:23] <past> yep
# [11:23] <jya> much appreciated
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# [11:24] <jya> this is a plain youtube, should be fairly stable…
# [11:24] <jya> past: what mac do you have?
# [11:25] <jya> oh, and you’re running 10.10.1
# [11:25] <past> 3-yo 17'' MBP with 10.10
# [11:25] <jya> I’m running 10.10.2 :(
# [11:25] <jya> any reasons you’re not upgrading ?
# [11:25] <past> err, what?
# [11:26] <jya> to 10.10.2
# [11:26] * past looks at software update
# [11:26] <jya> it’s the Apple’s framework that’s crashing here.
# [11:26] <jya> not much we can do :( need to identify what video characteristic causes the crash
# [11:27] <jya> and without access to that machine / OS version will be hard :(
# [11:27] <past> I hadn't been notified that an update was ready
# [11:27] <jya> been a few :)
# [11:27] <past> do you want me to get the logs first, then update?
# [11:27] <jya> yes..
# [11:28] <past> ok, I figured so
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# [11:28] <jya> though quite honestly, may not get good log, as it crash too early for me to tell what’s going on
# [11:29] <jya> luckily that crash stat has been rather low so far,
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# [11:29] <jya> seems that the Apple Framework has an internal null derf
# [11:29] <jya> deref
# [11:29] <past> it's weirs because I've been having such a shitty experience I was sure it would have been a big deal already
# [11:29] <past> *weird
# [11:30] <jya> I see some crashes with 10.10.1 too
# [11:30] <jya> there’s been 23 reports of that crash so far on the link I’m using
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# [11:31] <jya> ah no, that’s the trace depth :)
# [11:31] <past> I bet have of them were mine :)
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# [11:31] <past> half, jeez
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# [11:46] <past> jya: posted teh log
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# [11:47] <past> I can't type today
# [11:47] <jya> thanks
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# [11:51] <jya> past: may have to log a bug with apple :(
# [11:52] <past> jya: ok, but I was unclear on whether you can reproduce the crash on 10.10.2
# [11:52] <jya> i can't
# [11:52] <jya> and I’m using youtube *a lot* :)
# [11:52] <past> cool, I will upgrade to verify then
# [11:53] <past> if it's fixed in 10.10.2, then I guess the bug is known and fixed
# [11:53] <jya> I see some folks at Qt hitting the same bug
# [11:53] <jya> with more details in the crash trace:
# [11:53] <jya> 2014-10-23 21:42:10.733 qlcplus[32575:5271658] *** -[__NSArrayM objectAtIndex:]: index 3 beyond bounds [0 .. 2]
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# [11:57] <jya> past: how many screens do you have?
# [11:58] <past> virtual screens? 3 I think
# [11:58] <past> the default
# [12:00] <jya> past: can you run nightly in gdb/lldb and gives me a full backtrace?
# [12:00] <jya> when it crashes that is ?
# [12:00] <past> jya: I've already installed updates and rebooting, so not sure if it will manifest itself again :/
# [12:00] <jya> well if it doesn’t that mean Apple knew about it
# [12:00] <past> yeah
# [12:00] <jya> if you do get it, then getting them to fix it would be good
# [12:00] <jya> and they will ask for a backtrace
# [12:01] <past> ok
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# [12:07] <past> jya: you mean the model identifier in System report?
# [12:07] <jya> yes
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# [12:07] <past> MacBookPro8,3
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# [12:08] <jya> and 17” you said ?
# [12:09] <past> yes
# [12:09] <past> and good news, tc no longer crashes after the update
# [12:10] <past> neither does tweetdeck, so woo!
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# [12:12] <jya> huhu.. bug 19935496, Apple beats us big time with bug numbers :)
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# [12:12] <jya> past: excellent, can you update the bug report ?
# [12:12] <past> coz they're more buggy rite?
# [12:13] <past> just did
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# [13:02] <Yoric> And is it very expensive to have a 128bit Atomic<T>?
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# [14:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e243a8f61b70 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1085283 - Patch 1 Implement FormData manipulation methods. r=baku
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# [15:01] <Wes> smaug: ping
# [15:01] <@ted> wtf: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/raw-file/tip/config/milestone.txt
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# [15:02] <@ted> yeah
# [15:02] <@ted> i was looking at http://whattrainisitnow.com/
# [15:02] <@ted> (which pulls milestone.txt)
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# [15:02] <@ted> oh
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> Oh
# [15:02] <@ted> gps' hijinks made some old relbranch tip
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> default vs tip
# [15:03] <@ted> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/file/default/config/milestone.txt
# [15:03] <@ted> yep
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# [15:05] <@smaug> Wes: pong
# [15:06] <@ted> ok, better
# [15:07] <Wes> smaug: Hey, you seem to be involved in every bug I've read recently - was hoping you could clarify the state of multi-touch Firefox on Ubuntu. Should it work? Should we be writing future code for Pointers?
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# [15:07] <@smaug> we don't have touch backend on linux
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# [15:09] <@smaug> Wes: the future of pointer events is unclear... MS and we like them, so do web developers are various script library devs (so there will be polyfills), but blink folks don't like pointer events
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# [15:09] <@smaug> Wes: you have some touch screen laptop and would like to use touch events there?
# [15:09] <Wes> smaug: That explains why touch doesn't work then - it wasn't clear to me whether it should or not. I could have sworn I had guys here going touch on Firefox last year.
# [15:10] <Wes> smaug: Pointers are definitely interesting. We're agnostic, but all our stuff is currently Chrome and Safari compatible. Have been thinking about trying to polyfill Pointer into touch by override addEventListener somehow
# [15:10] <@smaug> Touch works on Android and FFOS and Metro, and there is work to make it work on Windows
# [15:10] <Wes> smaug: we're building a web app for deployment on touch-screen PCs actually
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# [15:11] <@smaug> Safari on desktop naturally doesn't have touch events
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# [15:12] <Wes> smaug: Yeah, we are using only Google Chrome on the desktop for touch these days. It basically works fine, although (puzzlingly) browser chrome doesn't work with touch, you have to use the mouse. But web content works really well, even 10-finger-touch stuff
# [15:13] <@smaug> Wes: so touch works there even on linux?
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# [15:13] <Wes> smaug: Oh, yeah! WebRTC, too!
# [15:14] <jesup> hmmmmmm Something that changed "recently" has made DOM(?) updates (or at least painting of them) get deferred until other actions happen, when the browser is "busy". I see this in chatzilla (messages sometimes don't appear until I scroll or switch tabs), and I'm seeing it in a debug build when I'm in a loopback webrtc call when playing around expanding/contracting stuff in an about:webrtc...
# [15:14] <jesup> ...rewrite patch
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# [15:14] <@smaug> Wes: how is webrtc related? and that works on FF too ;)
# [15:14] <jesup> Might(?) also explain some "stuff doesn't get painted immediately during startup" issues, especially on debug builds
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# [15:15] <Wes> smaug: It's the "other thing" that's been giving us compatibility grief. :) I wrote our initial WebRTC code around Chrome Canary 19, was totally elated this year when I fired it up in firefox and it "just worked". Yay for standards!
# [15:15] <jesup> perhaps OMTC??
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# [15:15] <@smaug> Wes: "standard" in case of WebRTC.
# [15:16] <@smaug> but yeah, good to see webrtc work somewhat compatible manner in various browsers
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# [15:17] <jesup> Wes: and the standard has changed a *lot* since then, as well as the impls. all-trickle-ICE broke some people, and mandating supplying success and error callbacks (always there in the spec, but Chrome didn't (doesn't?) mandate and so we didn't initially) broke others when we locked that down
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# [15:17] <Wes> smaug: Yeah. We are using it for web cam input (can even twist it using the touch screen), pretty neat. I remember having to make some code changes due to standards changes in ... summer 2012? ... but ever since, the code has been dormant and "just works". ISTR that Firefox was less of a PITA than Chrome in managing to make camera permissions/selection sticky, too. But I forget those details.
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# [15:18] <Wes> jesup: Sounds like I should make a point to revisit this code before calling it "production ready" - thanks for that note
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# [15:20] <jesup> Wes: Chrome auto-saves your permission (if it's from https domain). Which is not always clear to users.... we didn't allow saving initially (since we wanted a way to revoke it); we allow it now ("Allow always") from https domains, but we never default to "Allow always" like Chrome effectively does; the user has to make a purposeful selection to do so
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# [15:22] <grobinson> When you click the "Browse..." button for an <input type=file>, how does Firefox choose which directory to open initially in the File Upload dialog?
# [15:22] <Wes> jesup: Right! That's why I asked to get us over to https sooner rather than later. In our case, we don't want the prompt at all for that app, but that's just a one-time configuration thing, so I was just planning on rolling a duplicated user profile (with saved preferences somehow) across machines.
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# [15:23] <jesup> Wes: except for the "error callback is mandatory" bit, the items I mentioned were mostly about peerconnections; the big changes to getUserMedia is constraints (which we've been closer to the spec than Chrome, especially lately with jib's work
# [15:25] <jesup> Wes: we're also going to land "device ID" support soon in getUserMedia
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# [15:25] <Wes> jesup: excellent. "getUserMedia" really opened up some interesting capabilities from our POV. Flash support was starting to look like a problem at one point (we currently do not use it)
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# [15:28] <Wes> jesup: That is potentially useful for us. As it stands, many of our platforms have two web cams. We need external cams, but it's hard to buy computers without them. We also maintain audit trails with snapshots. If there is enough unguessability in your implementation, that makes something useful for us to track too.
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# [15:32] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/796f28ded767 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - Backed out changeset 7ff335be2c49 (bug 1047529) for causing spidermonkey test failure on a CLOSED TREE
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# [15:37] <Kwan> grobinson: I believe it either uses the last directory you used _for that domain_, if such a thing is known to Fx, or else just uses the last directory you used
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# [15:37] <Kwan> but that might just be saving behaviour
# [15:38] <grobinson> Kwan: it appears to use the last directory you used for that domain. Where does FX keep track of that info? And what does it do if it's the very first time you open the file upload dialog?
# [15:39] <Kwan> grobinson: I'm afraid I don't know the answer to either of those questions. My previous knowledge was based purely on observation in use
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# [15:39] <Yoric> I have a test that is expected to have distinct behaviors depending on whether we're running e10s or not. What's the best way to find out whether we're running with e10s?
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# [15:40] <grobinson> Kwan: thanks anyway! i'm poking around the code now, trying to find it
# [15:40] <Kwan> grobinson: though launching with a temp profile, it appears the default first-run location is the user's desktop, at least on windows
# [15:40] <grobinson> Kwan: yeah, I think that's the default behavior everywhere. Trying to figure out how to change it :)
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# [15:46] <grobinson> Kwan: found it :) http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/html/HTMLInputElement.cpp#278
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# [15:48] <grobinson> Kwan: the nsIContentPrefService2 is how the per-domain settings (including last download/upload dir) are stored
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# [15:53] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26cc212192fa - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 1135753 - Mark some overridden virtual functions in WebRTC as MOZ_OVERRIDE; r=mt
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# [15:56] <jesup> Wes: the device id stuff is in bug 1046245. The ID's are per-domain, opaque, stored in the profile, and get flushed on a cookie clear (or time-based clear if they were set in that time)
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# [15:57] <Wes> jesup: Thanks. That actually sounds like a good way to handle the device IDs from a don't-track-me POV.
# [15:59] <jesup> Also, you can't access device IDs until the user has granted access to you. You can use them to (on the next run, or while running) to request the same device again, or to put up a list of available devices in the app's UI (and then add a constraint when calling getUserMedia that says "I want this one")
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# [16:00] <jesup> Wes: http://w3c.github.io/mediacapture-main/getusermedia.html#enumerating-devices
# [16:01] <Wes> jesup: "Use them on the next run" -- that's exactly my proposed use-case. :)
# [16:01] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> anyone have every seen a build error like 9:27.64 Error in script "webapp-uninstaller.nsi" on line 52 -- aborting creation process when building from m-c tip ?
# [16:02] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/8823089 is the build failure log
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# [16:02] <jesup> Wes: Note that once you can enumerate them, they have label attributes with things like "Logitech 615 camera"
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# [16:02] <Wes> jesup: Hey! That's perfect!
# [16:03] <jesup> that bug is ready to land except for the last clearing part
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# [16:04] <jib> jesup: patch up on clearing device ids!
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# [16:05] <jib> jesup, Wes: actually you can access device id’s before the user has granted access, it is only the labels you can’t get to initially.
# [16:06] <Wes> jesup: Nice. Now all I have to do is figure out how to get Linux multi-touch support landed and I will have my "two-vendor" solution in the bag. ;)
# [16:06] <Wes> jib: does that include enumeration numbers? (and are they predicatable)
# [16:06] <jib> Wes: yes
# [16:06] <jesup> jib: yeah, though that's really no different than saying "I have N devices".
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# [16:07] <Wes> jesup: Interesting point, that's fingerprintable
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# [16:07] <jib> yes, per spec
# [16:07] <jesup> jib: important question: if someone enumerates without permission grant, are the enumerated values saved? If so, they become a cookie. They should only be saved if permission is granted, right?
# [16:08] <jesup> IMHO - what does the spec say?
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# [16:08] <jib> jesup: no from my reading of the spec they are always persistent, that’s why all the effort to make them origin-unique
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# [16:08] <jib> so they’re a cookie, jsut not a supercookie
# [16:09] <jesup> Ok, so that means they're no different than the site setting a cookie (and get cleared like cookies)
# [16:09] <jib> right
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# [16:09] <jib> jesup: I still need to include a patch about what you said yesterday though, about respecting some additional cookie setting, looking
# [16:10] <jesup> ok, thanks
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# [16:11] <jib> See http://w3c.github.io/mediacapture-main/getusermedia.html#attributes-8
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# [16:13] <jib> Wes: so when I said yes to them being fingerprintable, no more so than regular cookies, since each origin sees a value different from other origins
# [16:14] <jib> i.e. first-party cookies
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# [16:14] <jib> but the enumeration bits are fingerprintable
# [16:14] <Wes> jib: No, the number of cameras is fingerprintable
# [16:14] <jib> number of devices
# [16:14] <jib> right
# [16:14] <Wes> Not a big deal, fonts are way more specific :)
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# [16:15] <jib> and the label of course to sites you grant persistent permissions
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# [16:16] <jib> or during times of active gUM use
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# [16:16] <jib> with a particular site
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# [16:19] <jesup> jib: might be network.cookie.cookieBehavior == BEHAVIOR_REJECT -- check with dveditz
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# [16:22] <jesup> Wes: right; the compromise was that the number of devices are a low amount of additional fingerprinting info (given the distribution of systems, in most cases only a fractional bit probably). There was *much* boiling of oceans over this starting 3 years ago this month to get to this agreement... ;-)
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# [16:23] <jib> “oh you with the one camera and one microphone, not you again!”
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# [16:23] <jib> “desktop-user you”
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# [16:24] * jib realizing most people have phones with probably two cameras
# [16:24] <jib> jesup: thanks!
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# [16:25] <Yoric> Mmh...
# [16:25] <jesup> cameras are a very poor indicator; mic devices is mostly "what OS to you run, and are you on a laptop" which they mostly know already
# [16:26] <Yoric> Any idea what can have caused https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=5165078&repo=try ?
# [16:26] <Yoric> That code builds nicely on all other platforms.
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# [16:26] <Yoric> There must be some conflict with some Windows macro here, but I have no clue which source file is involved.
# [16:26] <Yoric> (nor do I have minwinbase.h at hand to check)
# [16:27] <jesup> cameras is mostly "are you on Android/B2G" (2 vs 1 (laptops, some desktops) vs 0 (some desktops))
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# [16:40] <Ms2ger> jwatt, welcome to the exquisite club of people who have touched th.js :)
# [16:40] <jwatt> Ms2ger: why thank you
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# [16:58] <bz> Gotta be possible.
# [16:58] <bz> The hard part is making it work across editors.
# [16:59] <jesup> bz: file access watcher... see what process accessed?
# [16:59] <glob> there is only one true editor
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# [17:38] <Mossop> NeilAway: Well if it makes assumptions about its install location, like it looks for its files in the profile or tried to modify its own files then that would be an issue
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# [18:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: so maybe going forward, we should stop repurposing SM jobs all the time and just bite the bullet and add a new job type?
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# [18:26] <sfink> "new job type"?
# [18:26] <sfink> wazzat?
# [18:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: I feel you for, but this seems like a problem of your own team's making?
# [18:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I mean, how many different configs has SM(ggc) tested now?
# [18:26] <sfink> just 2, afaik
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# [18:27] <sfink> and if I squint, it reads as SM(gc), which has always been accurate :-)
# [18:27] <sfink> but tell me more about this new job type
# [18:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ISTR an older change too around the time that ggc was enabled by default across the board
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# [18:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i mean, actually adding an SM(cgc) job instead of repurposing/renaming SM(ggc)
# [18:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> etc
# [18:28] <terrence> RyanVM|sheriffduty: no, SM(ggc) has only ever tested ggc and cgc
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# [18:28] <terrence> I agree that we should have separate jobs for those though
# [18:28] <sfink> RyanVM|sheriffduty: oh. Yeah, that's what I was intending to do.
# [18:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sfink: but don't waste your time doing things with the existing jobs
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# [18:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> leave them separate and shut them off if they aren't relevant anymore
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# [18:29] <sfink> oh, you mean shut them off on aurora/beta/whatever?
# [18:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, or even trunk
# [18:30] <sfink> oh, I'll definitely kill them from trunk
# [18:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> instead of changing the meaning of an existing job
# [18:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if you want an SM(v) job (or whatever), great
# [18:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but yeah, don't steal SM(e) and use it for something it isn't
# [18:30] <sfink> right, that's what I was trying to say in my comment
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# [18:31] <sfink> my takeaway: RyanVM|sheriffduty says I should make an SM(ch) build
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# [18:31] <sfink> maybe SM(chs) for the _s_prinkles part
# [18:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> if that means turning off SM(e) on Windows (unless someone actually cares about Werror on Windows), ++
# [18:32] <sfink> that reminds me: *why* doesn't --enable-warnings-as-errors do anything on Windows?
# [18:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> IIRC, it's because nobody wanted to own keeping it green
# [18:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> since hardly any JS devs actually develop on Windows
# [18:33] <sfink> oh, so they neutered the flag
# [18:33] <sfink> ugh
# [18:33] <sfink> somebody's lying even more than I am
# [18:33] <terrence> sfink: ping
# [18:33] <sfink> and yes, as part of this I would be turning off SM(e) on Windows and creating a new SM(p) job
# [18:34] <sfink> terrence: oh, right
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# [18:50] <gps> ted: and i already filed a pull request to fix whattrainisitnow
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# [18:51] <@ted> gps: heh, i just pushed a fix
# [18:52] <@ted> gps: FYI, https://github.com/luser/whatthetrain
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# [18:53] <gps> that was exactly my pull request
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# [18:53] <gps> i guess i should have just pushed
# [18:53] <@ted> hah
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# [18:53] <@ted> where did you file a PR?
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# [18:54] <gps> good question
# [18:54] <gps> https://github.com/indygreg/whatthetrain/pull/1
# [18:54] <gps> apparently i submitted it against myself
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# [18:55] <gps> derp
# [18:55] <froydnj> dat github pull ui
# [18:55] <gps> i did everything via the web ui, including the commit
# [18:55] <gps> maybe the "make pull request from web commit" ui is wonky
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# [19:07] <froydnj> this is one of my least favorite things about e10s
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# [19:15] <froydnj> Mossop: and tabs feel like (objectively, too, perhaps?) they restore faster under non-e10s
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# [19:16] <jib> Hi group, looks like I can’t call PK11_GetInternalKeySlot() in an e10s content process, can someone confirm?
# [19:18] <@khuey> jib: IIRC NSS is not active in the content process
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# [19:18] <jib> khuey: ok, so how do I generate an hmac?
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# [19:19] <sfink> Mossop: during a restart with e10s, there's this tense moment (ok, 10 seconds?) when all of my tabs are labeled "New Tab" before they are slowly filled it with titles and icons. It makes me tense, especially since one of the early e10s versions never did succeed in restoring any of them.
# [19:19] <jib> I tense up whenever I see the spinner of death myself
# [19:19] <Mossop> sfink, froydnj: Interesting, not seen this myself but then I don't run with many tabs in general
# [19:20] <sfink> Mossop: it's probably more obvious with tree style tabs (and lots of tabs, of course)
# [19:20] <@khuey> jib: I have no idea
# [19:21] <jib> I guess I need to invent something
# [19:21] <froydnj> jib: time to rewrite NSS! :p
# [19:21] <jib> froydnj: don’t look at me!
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# [19:22] <jib> I suppose there are reasons for NSS to not be active in the content process?
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# [19:23] <jib> I would imagine this breaks ICE as well in e10s then? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/mtransport/nricectx.cpp#138
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# [19:24] <jib> or is that on master perhaps, hmm
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# [19:24] <abr> bz / smaug / khuey / bholley / ehsan -- I'm looking for a DOM peer to lateral a very small review over to. Who has a couple of minutes to look at a seven-line change in MediaManager.cpp?
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# [19:25] <@smaug> abr: link to the patch?
# [19:25] <abr> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=1110973&attachment=8568182
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# [19:26] <jib> bwc: ping
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# [19:28] <bwc> jib: pong
# [19:28] <jib> bwc: hi, do you know if we do ICE in the content process? ^
# [19:28] <bwc> nICEr runs in the content process, yes.
# [19:29] <jib> bwc: so how can it call PK11_GetInternalKeySlot() ? see conversation above
# [19:29] <@smaug> abr: seems to be fine
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# [19:30] <abr> smaug: So I can add an r+ on your behalf?
# [19:30] <@smaug> sure
# [19:30] <abr> smaug: Thanks.
# [19:30] <bwc> jib: From what I can tell, that code is never used.
# [19:31] <jib> bwc: ugh, I stole a non-working car
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# [19:31] <bwc> That nss_hmac function is used only here: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/mtransport/nricectx.cpp#199
# [19:32] <bwc> That crypto vtbl is used only here: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/mtransport/nricectx.cpp#399
# [19:32] <jib> bwc: no it does get called, I know that from the debugger, hold on
# [19:32] <abr> bwc: I'm a little confused. Doesn't nICEr run on the STS thread? Or did that change while I wasn't watching?
# [19:32] <bwc> abr: It runs on STS, within the child process.
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# [19:33] <abr> bwc: Interesting. I thought child processes needed to go through the parent for network access.
# [19:33] <bwc> jib: And that |nr_crypto_vtbl| is used nowhere: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?q=%2Bvar-ref%3Anr_crypto_vtbl
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# [19:33] <bwc> abr: They do. STS is mostly a stub.
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# [19:34] <abr> bwc: Aha, okay. I haven't looked at how that worked. I figured that, since STS was mostly a construct to fiddle with descriptors, it would be gone in e10s child processes.
# [19:35] <bwc> jib: It may be that there is a bug in dxr. I'll have to grep to be sure.
# [19:35] <jib> bwc: you have to go through the vtables
# [19:35] <jib> so the names don’t match
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# [19:36] <bwc> jib: The problem was that a macro was being used to handle the vtbl indirection.
# [19:37] <josh> are people aware of the bug in m-c and thus nightly builds right now in which browser chrome is offset by 50+ pixels?
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# [19:37] <jib> bwc: here you go https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8823134
# [19:37] <bwc> jib: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/mtransport/third_party/nICEr/src/crypto/nr_crypto.h#48
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# [19:38] <jib> right, it’s called nr_crypto_hmac_sha1
# [19:38] <bwc> jib: dxr doesn't handle macro indirection like that quite correctly.
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# [19:38] <jib> called here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/mtransport/third_party/nICEr/src/stun/stun_codec.c#802
# [19:39] <jib> see pastebin
# [19:40] <bwc> So, this is extremely strange. Any failure in that function would cause nICEr to flat out not work, which is not what happens on e10s.
# [19:40] <jib> bwc: that is strange
# [19:41] <jib> maybe NSS is enabled in content then, and the error I’m getting is something else
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# [19:42] <jib> let me see if I can verify that it fails
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# [19:43] <josh> gavin: Do you know why tabs are incorrectly offset in m-c right now on OS X?
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# [19:44] <josh> mstange: ^
# [19:44] <bwc> jib: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/webrtc/signaling/src/peerconnection/PeerConnectionImpl.cpp?from=InitNSSInContent&case=true#271
# [19:44] <@gavin> josh: no; have a screenshot?
# [19:44] <bwc> jib: That is what ensures we have NSS, I suspect.
# [19:44] <josh> gavin: will make one
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# [19:45] <bwc> jib: Called here: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/webrtc/signaling/src/peerconnection/PeerConnectionImpl.cpp#664
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# [19:47] <bent> wow, did someone change something with mouse wheel scrolling acceleration/multipliers in today's nightly?
# [19:47] <bent> my wheel is turbocharged today
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# [19:48] <josh> gavin: http://people.mozilla.org/~josh/ff-screenshot.png
# [19:48] <josh> this has been in m-c for over 24 hours now, you can repro by closing all windows and then opening a non-e10s window
# [19:48] <@smaug> bent: hmm, not aware of anything, unless we enabled apzc. kats ^
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# [19:49] <Mossop> josh: Weird. If you close all windows and restore a previous window it appears with the offset then seems to slide up into place
# [19:49] <@gavin> josh: weird, I can reproduce
# [19:49] <kats> bent: what platform?
# [19:49] <bent> windows
# [19:49] <bent> 64
# [19:49] <kats> smaug: bent: regardless we didn't enable apzc
# [19:49] <kats> dvander: ^
# [19:49] <bent> ok
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# [19:50] <bent> somebody changed something though
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# [19:50] <bent> one wheel click is like half a page
# [19:50] <jib> bwc: Ah! thanks!
# [19:50] <josh> gavin: I'm not finding a bug in bugzilla, but its hard to describe. Do you want me to file one?
# [19:50] <kats> bent: it might be apz-related changes; dvander would know
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# [19:51] <@gavin> josh: sure
# [19:51] <@gavin> josh: mentioning it in #fx-team
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# [19:54] <josh> gavin: bug 1136291
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# [19:57] <jesup> jib: didn't read the entire backscroll, but NSS can *only* be accessed (safely) from STS thread (on child or master), IIRC
# [19:57] <jib> jesup: so I can’t enable NSS in mediaMgr thread by copying the init code bwc linked to?
# [19:57] <dvander> bent, kats i didn't land anything so seems unlikely
# [19:57] <dvander> i was about to though!
# [19:58] <bent> dvander, where should i file a bug?
# [19:58] <@gavin> josh: thanks
# [19:58] <kats> maybe m-c has become prescient and started making changes before we land
# [19:58] <jesup> jib: I don't think so
# [19:58] <jib> jesup: why not? explosions?
# [19:58] <jaws> davidb: i may have someone who can work on bug 887934 in a week or two
# [19:58] <jesup> yes. It's not thread-safe
# [19:58] <jib> jesup: then why does STS work?
# [19:58] <davidb> jaws, thank you
# [19:59] <jib> oh
# [19:59] <jesup> jib: because that's the only thread to use it
# [19:59] <jaws> davidb: you're welcome
# [19:59] <jib> right
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# [19:59] <jib> so
# [19:59] <dvander> bent: either layout or widget/win32, not sure which is better
# [19:59] <dvander> does it happen on 32-bit nightly?
# [19:59] <jib> jesup: how do I generate an hmac for enumerateDevices then?
# [19:59] <bent> dvander, i haven't tried
# [19:59] * jesup wonders why it doesn't have "on same thread I inited on" assertions *everywhere*...
# [19:59] <bent> yet
# [19:59] <jesup> jib: dispatch to STS I presume
# [19:59] <jib> is the STS around for this?
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# [20:00] <jesup> yes
# [20:00] <jib> ok
# [20:00] <jib> ugh
# [20:00] <jesup> yes
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# [20:01] <jib> jesup: wait, how come it works in non-e10s? Aren’t there multiple threads then?
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# [20:01] <jib> or is it a race in waiting?
# [20:01] <jib> intermittent in hiding
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# [20:01] <jesup> who's an NSS person nowadays? briansmith is gone (mostly). rbarnes: ping - is my memory right about NSS and threads?
# [20:02] <jesup> likely so (see my wonderment above)
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# [20:02] <jesup> getting NSS inited and shut down right for webrtc use was ... fun
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# [20:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: keeler?
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# [20:09] <jesup> ekr would know too, though he's not around. But I'm pretty sure.
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# [20:11] <gcp> did we just change scrollwheel behavior on Nightly?
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# [20:11] <mccr8> jesup: yes, keeler.
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# [20:11] <mccr8> gcp: yeah I noticed it is way more sensitive on Windows now. I'm not sure what is going on there.
# [20:11] <mccr8> I hadn't gotten around to filing a bug yet.
# [20:12] <gcp> mccr8: I'm flying ahead like a page per notch
# [20:12] <mccr8> gcp: mine wasn't quite that bad, but something like that.
# [20:12] <mccr8> OSX seems the same, for the track pad scrolling
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# [20:13] <gcp> someone suggest a component?
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# [20:13] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jya: bug 1120741 has spiked horribly
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# [20:16] <mccr8> smaug: where do you think a bug should be filed about mouse wheel scrolling becoming really sensitive?
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# [20:19] <rbarnes> jesup: keeler would be good. what's the issue?
# [20:19] <jimm> mccr8: on windows?
# [20:19] <jimm> mccr8: see bug 1136177
# [20:20] <mccr8> thanks!
# [20:20] <jimm> sure
# [20:20] <mccr8> gcp: ^
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# [20:21] <jesup> discussing with keeler in #security
# [20:21] <keeler> I'm here now - what's the context?
# [20:21] <jimm> I should land that now or it'll miss nightly
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# [20:22] <@smaug> mccr8: is that on all the platforms?
# [20:23] <@smaug> ah, jimm answered
# [20:23] <jesup> bug 1046245
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# [20:23] <mccr8> yep, thanks
# [20:23] <jesup> the last patch (computing hmacs)
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# [20:23] <gcp> "silence GCC warnings" breaking the browser reminds me of Debian OpenSSL
# [20:24] <gcp> or SSH or whatever it was
# [20:24] <shu> who do i talk to to be able to download minidumps from socorro?
# [20:24] <jesup> Could be only the DB-related things in NSS are thread-sensitive; I remember pain when getting mtransport/etc up
# [20:24] <rhelmer> shu: you need to file a bug asking for access, one sec I'll give you an example
# [20:24] <jesup> shu: kairo would know at least
# [20:24] <jimm> shu: file a bug about getting the right access to socorro
# [20:24] <mccr8> shu: bug 1062585 seems like a recent example of such a bug
# [20:24] <shu> rhelmer: okay, thanks
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# [20:25] <jimm> shu: for example bug 1125821
# [20:25] <rhelmer> yep
# [20:25] <rhelmer> thanks jimm
# [20:25] <jimm> heh - too much help in here!
# [20:25] <rhelmer> :)
# [20:26] <keeler> jesup: would https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/nsICryptoHMAC.idl be appropriate?
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# [20:28] <jesup> yeah, we used those for mtransport/etc (nricectx.cpp)
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# [20:29] <jib> keeler: would using nsICryptoHMAC work from the content process?
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# [20:31] <keeler> there might be a small change necessary for it to work in the content process, but that's not a problem
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# [20:31] <keeler> (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114882 )
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# [20:32] <keeler> no problem!
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# [22:11] <@khuey> hmm, some recruiter wants me to join their social gaming company to do front end work
# [22:11] <@khuey> not very well targeted
# [22:12] <froydnj> khuey: I pity those users
# [22:12] <dmajor> there was this one recruiter that kept insisting I had the right skills to be an Aflac sales rep :(
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# [22:13] <dmajor> s/recruiter/bot/
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# [22:15] * bz got at least one recruiter who thought he was a JS front-end dev
# [22:15] <bz> based on my stackoverflow answers
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# [22:16] <dmajor> condolences
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# [22:16] <shu> i mainly want recruiters to respect my "not interested now" answers for more than a month
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# [22:17] <Waldo> for better or worse, I almost completely ignore recruiter mail
# [22:17] <Waldo> can't remember the last one I replied to at all
# [22:17] <huseby> what's the best anti-virus software for windows 8.1?
# [22:17] <huseby> what do mozilla windows users use?
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# [22:20] <shu> huseby: yes, i actually like microsoft security essentials
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# [22:24] <huseby> shu: thanks
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# [22:27] <kats> dholbert: do you see any errors in logcat?
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# [22:29] <jesup> MSE overall works well, and doesn't do any MITMs.... Doesn't have all the features of some AV setups, but also avoids the performance fubars may AV setups cause
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# [22:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/92a14bc26a45 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
# [22:29] <jesup> huseby: ^
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# [22:30] <jesup> huseby: you can also ask in #security for the most paranoid opinions (with good reason...)
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# [22:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah, windows defender user here too
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# [22:33] <dholbert> kats, lemme see
# [22:33] <jib> keeler: ping
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# [22:34] <keeler> jib: pong
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# [22:34] <dholbert> kats, gah
# [22:34] <dholbert> kats, I quit Nightly, and now after opening it again, I can't reproduce
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# [22:34] <jib> keeler: so I’m using nsICryptoHMAC now, and I get [Child 13739] ###!!! ASSERTION: Trying to initialize PSM/NSS in a non-chrome process!: 'Error', file /Users/Jan/moz/mozilla-central/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp, line 122
# [22:35] <jib> any thoughts?
# [22:35] <jib> were there init steps I should do?
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# [22:36] <keeler> jib: you'll have to change nssEnsure to nssEnsureChromeOrContent at https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSModule.cpp#202
# [22:36] <dholbert> I don't see anything in logcat around when I was hitting this, though'
# [22:36] <dholbert> kats, ^
# [22:37] <keeler> and maybe the same for nsKeyObject and nsKeyObjectFactory as well...
# [22:37] <jib> keeler: ah, thanks!
# [22:37] <jib> keeler: and that’s ok to do?
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# [22:38] <keeler> jib: probably? I'll have a closer look in a bit - I have to go to a meeting, though
# [22:38] <jib> ok np
# [22:38] <bz> it thought "attachment NNNN" in the attachment description was "bug NNNN" and nixed the number
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# [22:38] <Waldo> bz: don't hurt yourself, there's hope!
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# [22:38] <jib> bz: how can you kick something with your initials in it?
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# [22:39] <froydnj> I'm sure bz has reflected many a time on choosing a nick that doubles as the nick for the bug-tracking system
# [22:39] <jmaher> surkov: ping
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# [22:40] <jib> froydnj: a plot by his parents no doubt
# [22:40] <jmaher> froydnj: just be glad our new tbpl replacement isn't call froydnj.mozilla.org
# [22:40] <kats> dholbert: likely something got in a bad state then
# [22:40] <dholbert> kats, yup
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# [22:40] <dholbert> kats, I'll post on the bug if I hit it again
# [22:40] <kats> dholbert: cool, thanks. if you do see it again grab the logcat, there will likely be useful errors there
# [22:40] <dholbert> kats, for now, I removed "regression" & added "sometimes" to bug summary
# [22:40] <dholbert> kats, ok
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# [22:41] <keeler> jib: I think making those changes should be safe - the implementations are in https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/src/nsCryptoHash.cpp and nsKeyModule.cpp for reference
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# [22:42] <jib> keeler: who should review? you?
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# [22:43] <keeler> jib: sure, I can review (I'll actually probably delegate it, but I'd like to have a look either way)
# [22:43] <jib> keeler: hmm, still not working
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# [22:44] <keeler> jib: same assertion?
# [22:44] <jib> yes, clobber?
# [22:44] <keeler> hmmm - that shouldn't require a clobber...
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# [22:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba350d5576df - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1135654 - part 1 - move backtrace conversion scripts to FINAL_TARGET_FILES; r=mshal
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# [22:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45bd6da5c8f7 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1135654 - part 2 - move FINAL_TARGET's .gdbinit to FINAL_TARGET_FILES; r=mshal
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# [22:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e847b1ee714d - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1135654 - part 4 - remove libs:: rule for installing Valgrind suppressions in favor of INSTALL_TARGETS; r=mshal
# [22:48] <jesup> jib: there's a closed bug on that in webrtc (also the initial NSS support bug: 881761)
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# [22:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99af18fdfdfe - David Anderson - Implement GetMaxTextureSize in the basic compositor. (bug 1135883, r=mattwoodrow)
# [22:51] <jib> Do I need to do any setup? I just did the minimum: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8823174
# [22:52] <jib> works in non-e10s
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# [22:52] <surkov> jmaher: pong
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# [22:54] <jmaher> surkov: I had modified the mochitests and pushed to try and what do you know- all the a11y errors I would see in mochitests are no more
# [22:54] <jmaher> surkov: here is the try push: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=050a4b973e8f
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# [22:54] <jmaher> surkov: and here is the a11y related changes: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/7c019ef00a98
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# [22:55] <jmaher> surkov: as from what you mentioned last week, it would be a decent idea to add some better output to mochitests (my attempt in the patch ^)
# [22:56] <jmaher> surkov: maybe we could make it correct and then land it- it would clean up a few of my pending issues :)
# [22:56] <surkov> yeah, I see
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# [22:56] <surkov> jmaher: then we could go with usual review process
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# [22:56] <jib> jesup: does that apply to using nsICryptoHMAC as well?
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# [22:57] <jmaher> surkov: ok, yeah- let me file a bug and attach my patch as a starting point
# [22:57] <surkov> ok, thanks!
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# [22:59] <keeler> jib: looks like you'll need to change nssEnsure to nssEnsureChromeOrContent for nsKeyObject and nsKeyObjectFactory
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# [22:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97c8184c3058 - Markus Stange - Bug 961887 - Make FindOpaqueBackgroundColorFor take a region instead of a PaintedLayerData. r=roc
# [22:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1684d29858e1 - Markus Stange - Bug 961887 - Find uniform opaque background colors under ContainerLayers. r=roc
# [22:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58d13a71c5dc - Markus Stange - Bug 1135912 - Don't repaint vibrant regions on mouseover. r=smichaud
# [22:59] <jib> keeler: ah, of course
# [23:00] <jib> should have thought of that
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# [23:06] <jib> keeler: Ok I think this got it farther! I now get [Parent 90857] WARNING: No docshells for remote frames!: file /Users/Jan/moz/mozilla-central/dom/base/nsFrameLoader.cpp, line 513
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# [23:06] <jib> jib: that may be unrelated, so thanks for your help!
# [23:06] <jib> keeler:^
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# [23:07] <keeler> jib: sure - no problem!
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# [23:14] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dvander: bustage - https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=6932036&repo=mozilla-inbound
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# [23:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yep
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# [23:19] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65e87c0b6aef - David Anderson - Fix build bustage on CLOSED TREE. No bug
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# [23:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ed067076789e - jlal@mozilla.com - Bug 1136020 - Update try decision task to use cache and more recent version of builder r=garndt
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# Session Close: Wed Feb 25 00:00:00 2015

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