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# [00:02] <bz> gw280: Manually walk the proto chain?
# [00:05] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e606119f9513 - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 1123579 - Search Widget preview for the Beta channel has the icon from the release channel.r=mfinkle
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# [00:13] <mhoye> dmajor: Thanks, I'll take a look. Right now my settings are as per our getting started docs.
# [00:14] <mhoye> enable-debug, disable-optimize
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# [00:27] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da8e7a594541 - Jean-Yves Avenard - Bug 1096089: Make end argument an unrestricted double as per spec. r=cajbir r=bholley
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# [00:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/08e62ceb672b - Mahdi Dibaiee - Bug 858038 - Allow moving elements in the markupview by drag/drop; r=pbrosset
# [00:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/44bc0ab3e491 - Jordan Santell - Bug 1134876 - Clicking an in-progress recording snapshot will no longer throw an error. r=vp
# [00:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/35a84923b632 - Jordan Santell - Bug 1135403 - Test that canvas debugger handles scenario where there is an animation cycle, but no draw calls or canvas. r=vp
# [00:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/e13b8f21939b - Jordan Santell - Bug 1135752 - Add tracking params in the dev edition doorhanger promo URL. r=jwalker
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# [00:46] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/a606a0c2c2bc - Wes Kocher - Bug 1135403 - Add files that apparently didn't get added when I imported the patch CLOSED TREE r=me
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# [01:17] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da80a09d5b4e - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 1136397 - Ensure OSR frame scripts have debug instrumentation. (r=jandem)
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# [01:22] <gandalf> How can I rethrow an exception that has been originally emitted in a Promise?
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# [01:22] <gandalf> I tried catch(function(e){throw e;});
# [01:22] <gandalf> but that doesn't seem to work
# [01:22] <jib> gandalf: it is working, it’s being rethrown in the promise chain (you’re inside a .then function)
# [01:23] <jib> gandalf: where did you expect it to get thrown to?
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# [01:25] <gandalf> jib: so, originally it was breaking the app
# [01:25] <gandalf> with an Error
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# [01:25] <gandalf> now I had to run the code that was breaking the app inside the Promise, and I don't know how to make it break the app again
# [01:25] <gandalf> (I'm working on gaia build system right now)
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# [01:27] <jib> gandalf: not sure what “breaking the app” means. Is there another way out other than throw?
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# [01:27] <jib> exit or something? I don’t know the build system sorry
# [01:27] <gandalf> jib: oh, sorry. So I'm here: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/build/post-app.js
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# [01:28] <gandalf> line 29
# [01:28] <gandalf> if I put "throw new Error('foo');"
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# [01:28] <gandalf> it will break the make build with Error: 'foo'
# [01:28] <gandalf> exiting the app
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# [01:28] <gandalf> if I will put the code in Promise().catch(function(err){});
# [01:28] <gandalf> now I have the Error('foo') in err
# [01:28] <gandalf> but I don't know how to exit from the app and throw this error
# [01:29] <gandalf> to get the same output
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# [01:30] <sunfish> anyone around know how webapprt is built, on Windows?
# [01:30] <jib> gandalf: right, well they’re doing different things. throw new Error(‘foo’); causes the exports.execute function to throw rather than return, whereas
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# [01:31] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=b63c9a4dc8f6 - 56 changesets
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# [01:32] <jib> gandalf: when you’re calling a function that returns a promise (your code is odd there btw) then whatever function you pass to .catch (or .then, same thing) executes later after exports.execute has returned, so you’re not in the original function anymore and there’s nobody to throw to
# [01:33] <jib> gandalf: what are you attempting to accomplish with a promise?
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# [01:33] <gandalf> jib: agh, true
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# [01:33] <gandalf> so, I just got a piece in this chain that is async, so I need to make the whole require("multilocale").execute async and yet I need to be able to throw somehow
# [01:34] <gandalf> I guess it will just not be exit
# [01:34] <gandalf> but console.error style stuff
# [01:34] <gandalf> thanks for the explanation
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# [01:34] <jib> gandalf: if all you want is for both things to happen, then I would (without understanding what they are) do the promise first and then on the following line throw instead of return, then the throw will happen before the thing in the promise chain but it will hopefully still happen
# [01:34] <gandalf> yeah, I think I know what to do
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# [01:35] <gandalf> thanks jib :)
# [01:35] <jib> np
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# [01:40] <mhoye> dmajor: fwiw our introductory docs suggest --enable-debug
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# [01:40] <dmajor> mhoye: /me cries, but understands
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# [01:40] <mhoye> So, I'm told that this is 100% wrong.
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# [01:40] <dmajor> ?
# [01:40] <mhoye> Yeah,
# [01:40] <mhoye> so
# [01:40] <mhoye> I'm not qualified to evaluate this, though I'm testing it now.
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# [01:41] <mhoye> But AFAICT at some point in the last two months we broke the ability to build on 32-bit windows.
# [01:41] <mhoye> At least, as per our docs.
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# [01:42] <dmajor> My money is on the libxul mergers
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# [01:42] <mhoye> That would be where it fails, yeah
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# [01:42] <mhoye> xul.dll
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# [01:42] <mhoye> If it saves developer time, great, fantastic, that's awesome.
# [01:42] <mhoye> I am pro that.
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# [01:43] <mhoye> But it screws some unknown number of our contributors.
# [01:43] <dmajor> It probably makes developer lives worse :) since re-links take longer
# [01:43] <dmajor> I think it was primarily a user benefit
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# [01:43] <mhoye> I'm pro those too!
# [01:44] <mhoye> But telling contributors they need to upgrade their OS to keep contributing is kind of a kick in the head.
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# [01:44] <dmajor> Yeah :-(
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# [01:45] <mhoye> I'm pretty sure that if you're trying to contribute from your family computer in Hyberabad or a school in argentina or something, that's like, we're done here.
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# [01:45] <mhoye> We've accidentally just told those people to fuck off.
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# [01:46] <dmajor> mhoye: Looks like GKMEDIAS_SHARED_LIBRARY (aka undo 922912) support is still in the tree, just not on by default. Can you try enabling it?
# [01:46] <Bas> mhoye dmajor: I really don't like the one big DLL approach anyway, really, but that's just me.
# [01:47] <dmajor> (I'm not sure what the magic incantation is... glandium?)
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# [01:48] <glandium> dmajor: already mentioned it :)
# [01:48] <mhoye> dmajor: That's what I'm trying next. Slow process is slooooowwww....
# [01:48] <dmajor> ah
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# [01:51] <glandium> mhoye: that said, is it actually a problem to say that if you want to build the C++ parts, you need more RAM? Sure, we currently don't have a way to not build those parts, but I'm working on that.
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# [01:54] <glandium> (the main problem being that, even if we do something now, it's bound to happen again, except if we stop adding features)
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# [01:57] <RyanVM> Bas: no crashes so far :)
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# [01:57] <RyanVM> (figures)
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# [01:58] <Bas> RyanVM: Ugh, I guess on to using an opt build and maybe sending me a full dump?
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# [01:58] <RyanVM> Bas: I guess. I may try to bisect exactly what of my optimizations is doesn't like too
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# [01:58] <Bas> RyanVM: It could just be timing, but sure :)
# [01:58] <RyanVM> Bas: I normally use ac_add_options --enable-optimize="-O2 -GL -arch:AVX"
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# [01:59] <glandium> RyanVM: -arch:AVX is likely to break
# [01:59] <RyanVM> glandium: apparently :P
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# [01:59] <Bas> RyanVM: Hrm, try without the arch:AVX
# [01:59] <RyanVM> will do
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# [01:59] <glandium> RyanVM: it breaks on linux, I wouldn't be surprised it breaks on windows
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# [01:59] <mhoye> glandium: If we're going to abandon a platform, it should be an explicit decision.
# [01:59] <RyanVM> glandium: always reassuring
# [02:00] <mhoye> glandium: For development same as for target.
# [02:00] <glandium> RyanVM: although i think the fix landed for linux
# [02:00] <glandium> mhoye: it's not that easy
# [02:00] <RyanVM> Bas: I'll drop it and let you know how it goes
# [02:00] <Bas> RyanVM: Thanks!
# [02:01] <RyanVM> glandium: what would it take to support optionally not folding libs into libxul?
# [02:01] <glandium> mhoye: dropping a target platform is a concious decision
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# [02:02] <glandium> RyanVM: that already exists but a) how long does that buy, b) what happens when that happens again? and c) we need to ensure it doesn't break for other reasons than resources
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# [02:05] <glandium> mhoye: I'll note that nobody seems to care about disk space, but building Firefox on windows probably requires 20GB, between msvc, the source tree, and the build tree. That's a *lot* of disk space for those machines that can barely build in their amount of RAM
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# [02:06] <mhoye> glandium: It requires at least 30, afaik
# [02:06] <glandium> mhoye: that's even worse
# [02:06] <mhoye> yes, but it's incremental.
# [02:06] <glandium> mhoye: memory usage growth is too
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# [02:07] <mhoye> not in this case.
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# [02:07] <mhoye> In this case we are crossing a threshold that cuts off a category of contributors.
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# [02:07] <mhoye> I'm not even say we shouldn't do that, if we've considered it and we think it's the right move.
# [02:08] <glandium> mhoye: you forget that before gkmedias was split off xul.dll because *our* builders couldn't PGO it, everything was in xul.dll
# [02:08] <RyanVM> glandium: mhoye: agreed that it might not last forever, but it might end the immediate pain anyway
# [02:08] <RyanVM> mhoye: maybe experiment with doing that if the build system still supports it?
# [02:08] <RyanVM> biab
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# [02:09] <mhoye> glandium: All I'm saying is: if we woke up one morning and suddenly we couldn't build _for_ win32, whatever was causing that would be backed out directly.
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# [02:09] <glandium> mhoye: so, in fact, it has been an incremental progression hidden by the fact that we've split things up because MSVC 2010 couldn't PGO
# [02:09] <mhoye> How we got here _does not matter_.
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# [02:09] <mhoye> What matters is we crossed a line _accidentally_
# [02:10] <glandium> mhoye: and it will happen again
# [02:10] <mhoye> And my argument is that if we decide to make it harder for our community to participate, that this decision should be _explicit_.
# [02:10] <mhoye> That's all.
# [02:10] <mhoye> Not that we can't do it.
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# [02:11] <mhoye> Just that we can't do it by accident.
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# [02:11] <glandium> mhoye: if you don't want accidents to happen, you try to prevent them. Unless you do that, accidents *will* happen
# [02:11] <mhoye> Well, can't. Clearly we can do it by accident, because here we are.
# [02:11] <mhoye> Just that we shouldn't.
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# [02:12] <mhoye> I'm not sure what I should take away from your argument here?
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# [02:12] <glandium> point being, yes, you can fix it now, but unless you make it so that it doesn't happen again unnoticed, it will happen again
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# [02:12] <mhoye> ok
# [02:12] <mhoye> I agree.
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# [02:15] <dmajor> if a small change can buy us (wild guess) 6-12 months, it still sounds worthwhile even if we don't know the exact date of the next failure. we would at least have more warning than the most recent surprise.
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# [02:15] <glandium> mhoye: my other point is that, to me, it seems the root problem is that those people have to compile at all.
# [02:16] <glandium> seriously, how many C++ contributors are building on a) windows b) with not enough RAM
# [02:16] <mhoye> glandium: Don't get me wrong, I am _super excited_ about the idea of shipping precompiled C++ and having a whole class of JS problems constrained contributors can work on.
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# [02:16] <mhoye> That would be amazing!
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# [02:16] <mhoye> We should _definitely have that_.
# [02:17] <mhoye> But it doesn't address the problem I have today.
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# [02:17] <glandium> RyanVM|biab: btw, you might like what i landed earlier
# [02:18] <dmajor> glandium: in this case it's an address space limitation due to OS bitness
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# [02:19] <glandium> dmajor: due to msvc using lots of memory to link
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# [02:19] <mhoye> dmajor: fwiw we've shown that it's an available-address-space problem, not a physical-ram problem.
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# [02:20] <glandium> mhoye: fwiw, last time I suggested that we support disabling features, the idea was shot down
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# [02:21] <glandium> because, you know, wasting time building webrtc is so important
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# [02:42] <froydnj> hm, editing comments on amazon wishlists doesn't work with nightly
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# [02:42] <sfink> glandium: I was skimming backscroll, so this is with the caveat that I know nothing about the latest problem so don't really understand the problem in the first place. But rather than disabling components, can you just disable PGO?
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# [02:46] <bkelly> KWierso: do we need to make any particular requests to get the backout uplifted to aurora on bug 1133939
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# [02:47] <KWierso> bkelly: ehsan already backed it out on aurora, no?
# [02:47] <bkelly> KWierso: oh... you are correct!
# [02:47] <bkelly> sorry, I thought those were two inbound revs
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# [02:51] <RyanVM|biab> sfink: the issue is that MSVC2013 runs out of address space on 32-bit Windows even on non-PGO builds
# [02:51] <RyanVM|biab> we've got a contributor hitting that problem
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# [03:06] <RyanVM> Bas: If we do narrow it down to arch:AVX as the culprit, would it still be worth trying to get a dump for an upstream bug?
# [03:06] <Bas> RyanVM: That's really hard for me to tell.. but I guess... perhaps.
# [03:07] <RyanVM> fair enough
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# [03:12] <Caspy7> dmajor: ping
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# [03:14] <Caspy7> dmajor: in this comment you asked me about vsize... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1132594#c17
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# [03:14] <dmajor> Caspy7: Hi, yes
# [03:15] <Caspy7> dmajor: in my process display thing, is that directly correspondent with the Virtual Size column?
# [03:15] <dmajor> Caspy7: what is your process display thing?
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# [03:16] <Caspy7> dmajor: I'm currently using "Process Hacker" which iirc is supposed to be more detailed/powerful than the default process manager that comes with Win7
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# [03:17] <dmajor> Caspy7: I am not familiar with that one, so I don't know. My guess is yes. You can experiment by comparing it to the 'vsize' in about:memory to see whether they agree.
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# [03:18] <Caspy7> ok
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# [03:19] <Caspy7> dmajor: yeah, they seem to correspond
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# [03:20] <dmajor> Caspy7: ok, good.
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# [03:20] <Bas> Interesting, all google services seem to be unreachable from the Netherlands for the last half an hour or so.
# [03:21] <froydnj> the dutch are disassociating themselves from american companies after gemalto :p
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# [03:21] <Caspy7> dmajor: I'll have to retest. I haven't been keeping track of the vsize
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# [03:22] <dmajor> Caspy7: I expect it to grow after the first couple rounds. I'm mostly curious whether it keeps growing after that.
# [03:22] <Caspy7> gotcha
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# [03:26] <Caspy7> dmajor: part of the reason for all this is once I get a little over 2 GB, things go downhill becoming unusable or crashing. I restart probably once a day
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# [03:28] <dmajor> Caspy7: yeah, I've been wrestling with memory issues for like a year :/
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# [03:35] <Caspy7> dmajor: my GPU really sucks, things get hot and the fan comes on as soon as a video plays. High GPU pages & such will make it hot and even crash the system. It's often high video or image consumption that pushes Firefox over to a crash when memory has gotten too high.
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# [03:43] <@roc> efaust: I'm guessing you didn't mean bug 106229
# [03:43] <efaust> roc: you know, you're right.
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# [03:45] <@roc> no biggie :-)
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# [03:47] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffceda31c4e1 - Eric Faust - Bug 1066229 - Follow up: Push args to callVM in correct, reversed, order. (r=me) on a CLOSED TREE
# [03:48] <efaust> OK, that's enough flailing at the tree for me for a while :P
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# [03:51] <efaust> KWierso: if, for some reason, that doesn't clean up the issue, then 1066229 should go, and I'll clean it up the hard way.
# [03:51] <KWierso> efaust: okay
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# [03:58] <cpearce> I get an error running `hg bzexport` "abort: No module named Queue!"... anyone seen this or got ideas how to solve it?
# [03:59] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/6b70def56608 - Erik Vold - Bug 1134759 - Uplift the Add-on SDK to Firefox a=me
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# [04:05] <@roc> I thought I'd implement a trivial DOM/CSSOM feature the lack of which is breaking some sites
# [04:05] <@roc> two hours later, I've discovered that the spec is underspecified and Chrome's behavior is totally bogus
# [04:05] <@roc> why am I surprised
# [04:05] <glob> \o/
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# [04:07] <@roc> on the bright side, I was gearing up to complain about how writing the mochitest took longer than writing the code, but my test found a bug
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# [04:13] <@njn> oh, nice; the static analysis job caught a constructor I wrote that was missing |explicit|
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# [04:20] <dmajor> njn: heh. you may be the only person who has had a positive reaction to that verifier. :)
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# [04:30] <bz> Anyone here understand C++ templates?
# [04:30] <bz> I'm trying to do a template whose one template argument is a function
# [04:30] <bz> Unfortunately, I don't know the exact signature of the function
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# [04:31] <bz> So I can do this:
# [04:31] <bz> template<typename GetterOutParamType,
# [04:31] <bz> JS::SavedFrameResult PropGetter(JSContext*,
# [04:31] <bz> JS::Handle<JSObject*>,
# [04:31] <bz> GetterOutParamType)>
# [04:31] <bz> static inline bool
# [04:31] <bz> etc
# [04:31] <bz> But then I'll have to explicitly instantiate with the right GetterOutParamType, no?
# [04:32] <bz> Whereas it's really deducible from the function argument to the template...
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# [04:32] <bz> Any sane way to do this?
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# [04:36] <@roc> decltype?
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# [04:38] <@roc> oh, the function argument, right
# [04:38] <bz> yeah
# [04:38] <bz> It's ridiculous
# [04:38] <bz> _I_ know what I want the code to look like... ;)
# [04:38] <bz> Why can't the compiler?
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# [04:43] <cajbir> bz: why do you have to explicitly instantiate it with the right argument type? Shouldn't it infer it?
# [04:43] <cajbir> bz: ie. PropGetter(foo,bar,baz) should work. No need for PropGetter<GetterOutParamType>(foo,bar,baz).
# [04:44] <bz> cajbir: no, it's like this:
# [04:46] <bz> template<typename GetterOutParamType,
# [04:46] <bz> JS::SavedFrameResult PropGetter(JSContext*,
# [04:46] <bz> JS::Handle<JSObject*>,
# [04:46] <bz> GetterOutParamType)>
# [04:46] <bz> static inline bool
# [04:46] <bz> FooFunction(JSContext* aCx, JS::Handle<JSObject*> aObject, GetterOutParamType aValue)
# [04:46] <bz> {
# [04:46] <bz> PropGetter(aCx, aObject, aValue);
# [04:46] <bz> return true;
# [04:46] <bz> }
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# [04:46] <@bz> cajbir: and now I want to do FooFunction<SomeGetter>(cx, obj, &whatever);
# [04:47] <@bz> cajbir: where "whatevr" has different types depending on the SomeGetter
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# [04:50] <Bas> bz: Would this work? #define FooFunction(a, b, c) FooFunction<__decltype(c)>(a, b, c) <-- although it'd be butt ugly..
# [04:50] <Bas> Oh never mind.
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# [04:50] <Bas> Right
# [04:51] <Bas> What you said to roc :p
# [04:51] <@bz> My real issue is that I have N getter functions I want to call
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# [04:51] <@bz> N-1 of them all have the same return type, which I can ignore
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# [04:51] <@bz> The last one returns book and I have to pay attention to it
# [04:51] <@bz> So I was hoping to shim the others to always return true and then have a bunch of function that return bool
# [04:51] <@bz> But it's simple to hand-instantiate the template in that one case....
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# [04:52] <@bz> simple enough
# [04:52] <@bz> not as much code sharing
# [04:52] <@bz> but things were getting a bit complicated the other way. ;)
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# [04:58] <dmajor> bz: maybe if you can get it to just resolve one thing at a time
# [04:59] <dmajor> like: template<blah> struct foo { template<bar> ... }
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# [04:59] <@bz> dmajor: It just got to be not worth it
# [04:59] <dmajor> heh
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# [05:03] <cajbir> bz: How can it work out what PropGetter to call? It's a template paramater by value but you don't pass that function value anywhere?
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# [05:04] <cajbir> Oh, that's what the 'SomeGetter' is in the call?
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# [05:05] <@bz> cajbir: yes
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# [05:20] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c010b941832 - Eric Faust - Bug 1066229 - Follow up: Enable |let| in ecma_6/Class/ in browser JS reftests. (rs=bz)
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# [05:22] <glandium> dmajor: we don't have anything in place that validates that we don't blow up support for XPSP2, do we?
# [05:23] <dmajor> glandium: we have some GetModuleHandle asserts
# [05:23] <dmajor> it is not a perfect solution, I admit
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# [05:24] <glandium> dmajor: can you remind me where those are?
# [05:25] <dmajor> glandium: WindowsCrtPatch::Init
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# [05:29] <glandium> dmajor: it strikes me we should use MSVC_C_RUNTIME_DLL
# [05:30] <dmajor> glandium: /shrug. we are probably screwed with the next compiler anyway :)
# [05:30] <glandium> dmajor: so anyways, we check that none of the libraries we know would pull the problematic symbol is loaded
# [05:30] <glandium> i guess that's good enough
# [05:30] <glandium> at least i guess it should catch any problem with the changes I'm about to make
# [05:31] <dmajor> glandium: uh oh, what are you changing?
# [05:31] <glandium> dmajor: I'm folding mozalloc into mozglue
# [05:32] <glandium> dmajor: and that requires plugin-container to depend on mozglue
# [05:32] <dmajor> uh oh
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# [05:33] <dmajor> glandium: I ran into this recently at 1132663#c4
# [05:34] <dmajor> but maybe your link fu is better than mine :)
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# [05:35] <glandium> dmajor: I guess it's time to do things in a more subtle way than run it from wmain
# [05:36] <glandium> although I'm not sure if that actually works on executables
# [05:36] <glandium> that would suck big time :(
# [05:36] <dmajor> ?
# [05:37] <glandium> dmajor: you can run code before wmain by placing it in some special section, but I'm not sure if it's not a feature limited to dlls
# [05:38] <dmajor> is that early enough? you'd need to come before whatever CRT init magic happens
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# [05:38] <glandium> dmajor: I'll have to try
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# [05:39] <dmajor> brave man
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# [05:40] <glandium> "bravely bold Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot"
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# [05:43] <philor> oh, that's why I suddenly heard coconuts clopping
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# [05:44] <glandium> philor: hey, you might like the last thing I landed on inbound
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# [05:46] * philor doesn't get it
# [05:47] <glandium> philor: aren't you one who gets upset when we reach beta and the sdk doesn't build?
# [05:47] <glandium> now you can make the sdk at the same time you push things to try "as beta"
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# [05:48] <philor> glandium: ah! I told RyanVM how to do those when I went on vacation last July, and I er um I might not have um er actually ever taken the job back :)
# [05:48] <glandium> ha
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# [05:51] <philor> though I don't think he took over remembering to look at the xulrunner builds at random intervals, so probably nobody's doing that now
# [05:51] <glandium> philor: I unfucked them recentlyish
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# [05:51] <glandium> and they had been fucked for a long time
# [05:51] <glandium> haven't looked since
# [05:51] <glandium> they might be fucked again
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# [05:54] <glandium> dmajor: heh, I actually can't link mozglue anyways since we need to use the static crt
# [05:55] <glandium> I need to find something else
# [05:55] <glandium> fun times
# [05:55] <philor> looks like only Mac is fucked on aurora
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# [05:57] <philor> same for the trunk, createprecomplete.py
# [06:00] <glandium> philor: what's the complete error?
# [06:00] <philor> cd ../../dist && (cd universal/xulrunner/XUL.framework/Contents/Resources && /builds/slave/m-aurora-osx64-xr-ntly-0000000/build/obj-firefox/i386/_virtualenv/bin/python /builds/slave/m-aurora-osx64-xr-ntly-0000000/build/config/createprecomplete.py) && etc.
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# [06:01] <philor> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: universal/xulrunner/XUL.framework/Contents/Resources: No such file or directory
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# [06:03] <glandium> philor: file a bug and cc stephen pohl?
# [06:04] <philor> heh, it might have been broken since last September, then?
# [06:04] <glandium> it's not impossible
# [06:05] <philor> I'd think that'd be on release by now, and thus not the release blocker they claimed, back when I cared about keeping it green
# [06:06] <philor> oh, except it was green on aurora before the merge on Monday
# [06:06] <glandium> philor: haha
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# [06:10] <philor> maybe "scroll back, see that it was green on the run before bug 1123990 landed and red on the landing" would work :)
# [06:11] <glandium> philor: haha, one more thing this bug broke, then
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# [06:15] <philor> yeah, if I hadn't completely lost interest in xulrunner, I probably would have thought about that and looked at it after the second or third bustage
# [06:15] <qDot> So is OS X just like, not happening on try now?
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# [06:18] <glandium> qDot: looks like so, I have builds pending since 5 hours ago
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# [06:19] <philor> qDot: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1137047
# [06:20] <philor> heck, yesterday we got 7% of them started within 15 minutes!
# [06:20] <philor> rounding up
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# [06:23] <philor> sonofabitch, I was going to apologize to the pusher over having to kill their build, but it's mine
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# [06:29] <philor> we'd have a lot less backlog if people would bloody well kill things like https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=26ebfefe8539 though
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# [06:32] <philor> heycam: sorry, gotta kill your opt build, after all the time you waited for it to finally start
# [06:33] <philor> or not, apparently I can't count
# [06:34] <heycam> the f5973860cf37 one?
# [06:34] <heycam> yeah I don't mind
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# [06:34] <philor> da45b3e03de3 and I don't need to
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# [06:36] <philor> yours isn't stuck, I thought I was looking at the build that slave did before yours, and converted the times wrong and thought it had been sitting stuck for an hour when really it had only been running for a minute
# [06:36] <heycam> probably was waiting for an hour tho
# [06:36] <heycam> before starting
# [06:37] <heycam> (more like 4)
# [06:37] <philor> nah
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# [06:37] <philor> more like 6
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# [06:38] <philor> another thing I'm only partly right when I do :)
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# [06:40] <philor> jgilbert_: given the general bustedness so far in https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=cea9a82c86e7 do you really need those Mac builds that you'll have to wait 6 or 8 hours for anyway?
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# [06:44] <philor> whoever's in charge of onboarding new hires by teaching them to use trychooser and self-serve: you suck at doing your job, you're doing it terribly poorly
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# [06:51] <philor> dropped the pending from 162 to 106, anyway
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# [06:57] <nigelb> ah, you're around.
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# [06:59] <nigelb> oh. ew. at treeherder change with starred failures.
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# [07:01] <nigelb> philor: woops, sorry, crossed paths
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# [07:03] <philor> nigelb: seems unlikely you'd get in my way, I rarely even care when people star things wrong, much less when they star them right
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# [07:05] <nigelb> hah
# [07:06] <nigelb> On the plus side, this new CSS is great. Much better view of unstarred trees.
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# [07:09] <jgilbert_> philor: yes, we need those
# [07:09] <philor> jgilbert_: both sets, the one on the previous push and the one on the later push?
# [07:09] <jgilbert_> philor: the mac builds will come through
# [07:09] <jgilbert_> oh, right
# [07:09] <jgilbert_> kill the older one
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# [07:09] <jgilbert_> or I can do it, sec
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# [07:10] <jgilbert_> oh, it's basically done anyways
# [07:10] <jgilbert_> cancelled anyways
# [07:10] <jgilbert_> but we need that most recent one to run to completion
# [07:11] <jgilbert_> I'm surprised you're hunting down in Try runs
# [07:11] <jgilbert_> are we really constrained all of a sudden?
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# [07:11] <philor> we are
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# [07:12] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1137047
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# [07:14] <philor> can't remember whether anyone has mentioned that the warranty on the disks has literally expired, but it has certainly figuratively expired, but for try slaves nobody ever says anything when they get an infra-ish failure, so they just go merrily along taking 3 hours for 1 in 10 jobs
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# [07:15] <philor> which is apparently enough to take barely-enough slaves over the edge to nowhere-near-enough slaves
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# [08:43] <markh> I seem unable to retrigger treeherder jobs - I just get a panel "Unable to send retrigger: Authentication credentials were not provided." rather than the http-auth prompt I usually get
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# [08:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> markh: hm i guess we have seen this yesterday also
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# [08:46] <markh> I then tried good-old tbpl, but it doesn't even *show* the orange as it's not showing any e10s builds
# [08:47] <markh> s/builds/tests/ obviously :)
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# [08:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> markh: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1113281#c19
# [08:48] <markh> wait - yes it is - just not showing *my* orange - m-e10s(bc1)
# [08:48] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> :)
# [08:48] <markh> ah, thanks
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# [09:17] <glandium> holy crap, the community version of MSVC is actually a 30 day trial
# [09:17] <Ms2ger> !
# [09:18] <Ms2ger> glandium, do you happen to know things about virtualenvs and mach?
# [09:19] <glandium> depends what
# [09:19] <glandium> http://i.imgur.com/h979PgV.png
# [09:20] <Ms2ger> I've got a mach command that runs a shell script that runs a python script in Servo, and wondering if I can cut out the middleman
# [09:20] <Ms2ger> https://mxr.mozilla.org/servo/source/tests/wpt/run.sh
# [09:20] <glandium> i guess you can get a license... if you sign in
# [09:20] <glandium> (for free, that is)
# [09:21] <glandium> Ms2ger: mach python
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# [09:21] <glandium> Ms2ger: look what it does
# [09:21] <Ms2ger> Ok, thanks
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# [09:23] <glandium> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27939437/visualstudio-community-2013-prompts-to-update-trial-license great
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# [09:40] <Dexter> glandium, yep, you will get a license by signing in :)
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# [10:10] <darktrojan> 200mb of heap-unclassified probably isn't good, right?
# [10:11] <glandium> darktrojan: depends. how many percents is it?
# [10:11] <darktrojan> 44
# [10:11] <glandium> that's a lot
# [10:11] <darktrojan> that's what I thought
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# [10:38] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> glandium: do you know what cause https://tomcat.pastebin.mozilla.org/8823406 ?
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# [10:38] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: no
# [10:39] <glandium> Tomcat|sheriffduty: presumably, nsis version problem?
# [10:39] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
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# [11:30] <edmorley> Gijs: I see jobs on https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=f8217fb0d3da ? (or is it fine for you since?)
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# [11:31] <Gijs> edmorley: yeah, I'm just impatient, it turns out :)
# [11:31] <Gijs> sorry!
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# [11:37] <edmorley> don't be :-)
# [11:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/7ec0b8ca6b63 - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia revision(s) a=gaia-bump
# [11:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/70452b8af88f - B2G Bumper Bot - Bumping manifests a=b2g-bump
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# [11:40] <anirudhgp> Hey guys I changed some code in the SMS app of gaia and now I need to change the test file. Can anyone help me as to how I can change the test file ?
# [11:41] <gfritzsche> Hm, apparently the nightly downloads for osx are broken?
# [11:41] <gfritzsche> Can anyone confirm?
# [11:41] <nigelb> gfritzsche: the page itself?
# [11:42] <gfritzsche> the app bundle
# [11:42] <gfritzsche> after download / unpacking from dmg
# [11:42] <nigelb> ah, I can't help (I'm on linux)
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# [11:42] <gfritzsche> http://imgur.com/ntzpEXD
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# [11:43] <gfritzsche> Who would take that on? #releng?
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# [11:44] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56534e335e86 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 1122021 - make number_constants internal to js_InitNumberClass; r=jorendorff
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# [11:52] <edmorley> gfritzsche: re the survey email - do you mean the colours/contrast of the job result symbols in the main content area, or something else?
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# [11:54] <gfritzsche> edmorley: yes, the job results
# [11:54] <edmorley> gfritzsche: great, ty - you're not the only one to say that, I'll file a bug
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# [11:55] <gfritzsche> edmorley: good to know it's not just me :)
# [11:55] <edmorley> (someone else also commented on the commit list font/colour, wanted to see if you meant that)
# [11:56] <edmorley> (and I also think the job details panel isn't as readable at the moment)
# [11:56] <gfritzsche> agreed that the commits could be more contrasty too, but there's always the pushlog link
# [11:57] <edmorley> gfritzsche: they were actually intentionally faded out to emphasise the results, amusingly
# [11:57] <gfritzsche> oh, heh
# [11:57] <gfritzsche> well, pushlog link gives better overview anyway
# [11:57] <gfritzsche> and is actually complete
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# [11:58] <edmorley> agreed (bug 1079989 for context on the revision colour)
# [11:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=276c0389ec96 - 19 changesets
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# [12:00] <edmorley> I'd love to have some UX people look at the UI at some point (us wrt UI design -> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/305/224/3e1.jpg hehe)
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# [12:01] <gfritzsche> haha... it actually seems rather usable now :)
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# [12:05] <edmorley> gfritzsche: there's a button for that on the toolbar (left of the filter input field)
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# [12:07] <gfritzsche> edmorley: oh, ok, i guess i was looking for some "<<<" around the revision list
# [12:07] <gfritzsche> that's useful
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# [12:18] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: i see bug 1136082 & bug 1136082 in the fx-team -> m-c merge, but they are not resolved yet
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# [12:18] <gfritzsche> Delayed or something up there?
# [12:19] <gfritzsche> 1131544 & 1136082
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# [12:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hmmmmmm
# [12:20] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: mcmerge told me its fixed
# [12:20] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Oddly those are the only two of what i landed yesterday that weren't resolved
# [12:21] <gfritzsche> Should i just fix manually?
# [12:21] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> ah i see
# [12:21] <gfritzsche> The other ones were resolved fine by the merge
# [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: ping
# [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: you marked bug 1062305 fixed but seems it not fixed
# [12:22] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: see above the bug gfritzsche mentioned i guess its because in bugzilla its @mozilla.com and he pushed with @gmail.com
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# [12:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: i think its a mcmerge bug
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# [12:23] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: do you want resolve the bug or shall i do ?
# [12:23] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Go ahead, thanks :)
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# [12:23] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: could you file a new bug, to the best of my knowledge bug 1062305 is fixed, this must be something else
# [12:24] <gfritzsche> Hm, there were some in the merge though that were assigned to me too and resolved fine
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# [12:24] <gfritzsche> Tomcat|sheriffduty, edmorley ^
# [12:24] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: yeah will do
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# [12:29] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: edmorley filed bug 1137149
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# [12:31] <edmorley> ty
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# [12:42] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jgraham: ping
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# [12:46] <jgraham> Tomcat|sheriffduty: hi
# [12:46] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> hey jgraham i have a quesiton for you as expert :)
# [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jgraham: we have some test failures like https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=1088553&repo=mozilla-central on mozilla-central
# [12:47] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> are this web-platform-tests-2 on os X just enabled on osX ?
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# [12:48] <jgraham> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Yeah, known issue. I thought that RyanVM hid the job, but maybe only on inbound. https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=183aaefcf2a3 is the fix which I will land as soon as I get an OSX machine on try
# [12:48] <jgraham> Which might happen before the end of the year
# [12:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jgraham: so i need to hide that tests on m-c ?
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# [12:49] <jgraham> Tomcat|sheriffduty: Well it will permafail until that patch lands, yes
# [12:49] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jgraham: ok will do
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# [12:50] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> jgraham: and super thanks :) was about to search what regressed that test :)
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# [13:07] <edmorley> Tomcat|sheriffduty: actually the GETs won't be there since the console needs to be open at the time of them; only errors would, but I doubt it's the problem in this case
# [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> yeah
# [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> edmorley: yeah noticed the same
# [13:08] <Tomcat|sheriffduty> too bad :(
# [13:12] <NeilAway> glandium: yeah, that was annoying when I discovered that about community edition
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# [15:29] <capella> roc ping? I'm looking at possibly integrating the new TouchCaret/SelectionCarets into mobile ... wondering who I ca n run some initial background questions past on irc? you/ehsan ? other devs in #b2g?
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# [15:31] <@ehsan> capella: what's up?
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# [15:33] <nemo> woah. how does uneval even work? seems like magic
# [15:33] <Yoric> Advanced technology.
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# [15:33] <nemo> even does whitespace
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# [15:33] <nemo> is FF like keeping a cached copy around?
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# [15:34] <nemo> either magic or something super inefficient
# [15:34] <capella> ehsan hey :) Didn't see you active ... not sure of your workload / free time, but if I wanted to ask project status / context questions ... for example, a quick hack to enable Seelction in mobile gets results such as : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hlo7siu26s12rny/demo.mp4?dl=0
# [15:34] <capella> Is this the current state in #b2g? I don't have a device to compare to so I'm a little blind atm
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# [15:35] <@ehsan> capella: no
# [15:35] <@ehsan> capella: you need to talk to someone who knows how the zooming stuff on mobile works
# [15:35] <@ehsan> someone familiar with apzc
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# [15:36] <capella> ok ... I know who that is then :) so that'll be apzc specific issue ... I have others but that's good for now
# [15:36] <@ehsan> we need to make sure that the carets work properly with zooming and panning, that's probably different on Android vs b2g
# [15:36] <padenot> nemo: I think we keep a compressed copy around
# [15:36] <@ehsan> cool
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# [15:37] <capella> ehsan - and the question of control is interesting next, our SelectionHandler wants to be a in the middle of the selection lifecycle for controlling the actionbar
# [15:37] <@ehsan> capella: you basically need to delete all of the existing code ;)
# [15:38] <capella> This I already believe :D
# [15:38] <@ehsan> capella: and from within gecko add notifications for whatever you need to be notified of which currently doesn't exist
# [15:38] <nemo> padenot: huh... jsfunfuzz says it does uneval(eval("stuff")) - that doesn't seem very meaningful if the string is there already
# [15:38] <nemo> padenot: and. while uneval is kinda cool, I hope you aren't keeping compressed copies around for *everything* - that seems a bit of a waste.
# [15:39] <nemo> you'd think the memshrink people might have an opinion on that
# [15:39] <capella> ehsan: and by "from with gecko" you mean add .cpp hooks to issue appropriate messages?
# [15:39] <padenot> nemo: I'm pretty sure it's what is done, but you'd have to ask the js team for the specifics
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# [15:39] <padenot> nemo: and iirc, this is not true on fxos, source is discarded there
# [15:40] <capella> and #ANDOID_MOZ_WIDGET guards or such
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# [15:41] <nemo> padenot: wonder if this can be flagged off in about:config
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# [15:42] <nemo> could see if it results in any memory savings on crazy-heavy JS sites like gmail
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# [15:42] <@ehsan> capella: yeah, specifically I need from within the selection code, for example, but hard to say more precisely without knowing exactly what you will end up needing, feel free to ask when you know more
# [15:42] <padenot> nemo: I don't think it's worth it, ram is cheap and zlib is efficient on text
# [15:42] <@ehsan> capella: (and no need to make such notifications Android specific)
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# [15:43] <capella> ehsan: thanks! Perfect!
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# [15:44] <nemo> padenot: efficient on large bodies of text ☺ and "ram is cheap" is I bet something you wouldn't want the memshrink guys to hear 😝
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# [15:45] <nemo> padenot: since no one else supports it, it would have to be pretty useful to keep around in general release?
# [15:45] <@ehsan> capella: you're welcome!
# [15:45] <nemo> padenot: (as opposed to, oh, developer edition or something)
# [15:45] <padenot> nemo: addons depend on it
# [15:45] <nemo> ah
# [15:45] <@ehsan> capella: fwiw the Android selection code has been on my personal kill list for a few years now :)
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# [15:46] <capella> ehsan: heh - it's been on my maintenance list for a couple years ;)
# [15:46] <nemo> padenot: and they can't make do w/ toSource and stringify?
# [15:46] <nemo> not same thing, yes, guess it depends on the addon
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# [15:47] <padenot> nemo: toSource uses the same zipped source mecanism
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# [15:47] <nemo> padenot: O_o
# [15:48] <nemo> padenot: I assumed toSource was decompiled
# [15:48] <nemo> huh.
# [15:48] <nemo> eh. in that case...
# [15:48] <capella> ehsan: fwiw - we've improved it a lot, but it's still strapped on vs. integrated like the new bits are ... I'm expecting it'll seemlys fix issue we have like iframes and such
# [15:49] <padenot> nemo: source compression has been implemented to kill the decompiler, because it was realistically impossible to maintain, iirc
# [15:49] <@ehsan> capella: yeah, the issue is with the basic approach of doing things behind gecko's back... one of our goals for designing the new carets for b2g was to make them usable on Android eventually too
# [15:49] <nemo> padenot: wow. no one else has toSource! TIL
# [15:49] <nemo> padenot: (I've used it so incredibly rarely, hadn't noticed)
# [15:50] <capella> ehsan: yep : I've been on the component watch for awhile :)
# [15:50] <nemo> padenot: so that jsfunfuzz thing I guess was from a time when decompiling was used? 'cause otherwise seems pretty meaningless.
# [15:50] <@ehsan> capella: happy to see some traction here, keep up the good work!
# [15:50] <padenot> nemo: I don't know anything about jsfunfuzz, sorry
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# [15:52] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=jsfunfuzz
# [15:52] <nemo> the bug was filed in 2006 tho, so I guess the decompiler round trip thing is no longer true as you noted
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# [15:53] <padenot> nemo: source compression was implemented two something years ago by benjamin
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# [15:54] <padenot> I think the main goal was to remove the decompiler
# [15:54] <nemo> padenot: and, can also I suppose cache stuff like compiled asm.js - and maybe optimisation hints for regular js
# [15:55] <nemo> mm
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# [16:02] <RyanVM> Yoric: Part 1 and 3 are non-obsolete, you have a comment about landing w/o part 2, but part 3 doesn't have review?
# [16:03] <Yoric> Ah, I meant without part 3.
# [16:03] <Yoric> RyanVM: Sorry about that
# [16:03] <RyanVM> so just part 1?
# [16:03] <RyanVM> there's no non-obsolete part 2 attached
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# [16:04] <Yoric> Indeed, I have folded it in part 1.
# [16:04] <RyanVM> ok, thanks
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# [16:05] <RyanVM> should it be leave-open for part 3 or are you taking that to a follow-up?
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# [16:06] <RyanVM> Yoric: and it's bitrotted
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# [16:08] <bz> nemo: so....
# [16:08] <bz> nemo: we used to implement toSource() via serialization
# [16:08] <bz> nemo: instead of just storing the original source
# [16:08] <bz> nemo: assuming you mean functions
# [16:08] <bz> nemo: We kept getting bug reports about people not getting back the original string
# [16:09] <bz> nemo: Plus maintaining the serializer was actually a huge pain
# [16:09] <bz> nemo: in that any time you added a new bytecode feature you had to go fix the serializer
# [16:09] <bz> nemo: So eventually we ripped all that gunk out and just started doing what everyone else does: storing the original string
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# [16:10] <Yoric> I guess I'll move part 3 to a followup.
# [16:11] <Yoric> I'll unbitrot, thanks.
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# [16:14] <nemo> bz: \o/
# [16:14] <nemo> bz: since you're answering something of mine. Any thoughts as to what that DannyFritz guy could do? he's still idling...
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# [16:16] <nemo> bz: anyway. was just surprised 'cause, yeah, in other languages is explicit serialisation. I guess if expectations had been managed from the getgo it wouldn'tve been necessary )
# [16:17] <nemo> oh well no biggie. and yeah, didn't realise everyone was doing that. I wonder why toSource and uneval aren't generally available then
# [16:17] <nemo> JSON.stringify obv is
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# [16:43] <julienw> I'm trying to find where the resource:// URL are defined (eg: where do we decide that gre points to this directory, etc)
# [16:43] <julienw> any pointer ?
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# [16:43] <julienw> especially for Cu.import :)
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# [16:45] <jesup> glandium: (if/when you're awake) - just did some clobber builds (with ccache -C) with and without --disable-webrtc to see how much time it's adding. 13:31 --disable-webrtc, 13:51 --enable-webrtc (linux64, XEON/16GB SSD, debug build)
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# [16:48] <froydnj> jesup: yeah, but what does that look like on a old core2 with a mechanical hard disk + windows?
# [16:49] <froydnj> jesup: 'cause that's kind of the interesting case for contributors
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# [16:54] <RyanVM> froydnj: I'd bank on ICU saving a legit amount of time
# [16:55] <RyanVM> not sure if we can realistically disable that anymore, though
# [16:55] <froydnj> RyanVM: we can, because *san is built that way
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# [16:56] <RyanVM> oh, interesting
# [16:56] <RyanVM> and kinda scary :P
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# [16:59] <jesup> froydnj: true and I can't easily test that (well I could test a spinning disk with some minor extra work) - but likely it's roughly proportional (i.e. around 3%ish)
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# [17:04] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh joy, and it seems to have started on merge
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# [17:13] <yash_> Hi,
# [17:13] <yash_> I am working on this bug 1003457, but am stuck on how to handle what is mentioned in comment #25. Can anyone please help
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# [17:13] <jimm> bsmedberg: hey. what are our plans for 'dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode'? is that pref going to roll out at some point enabled?
# [17:16] <jimm> bsmedberg: the current answer might simply be "we don't know yet" :)
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# [17:19] <NeilAway> wow, the call to init NSS is really hidden away well, I would never have guessed to look for it there
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# [17:23] <wlach> RyanVM|sheriffduty: jmaher|afk is in meetings this morning
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# [17:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> linux32/linux64 debug
# [17:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> bz: scratch that, it predates your push
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# [18:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert|sf: you have no idea how much I laugh when I get "Wow, this test is terrible" as the first response to a needinfo? on an orange bug
# [18:29] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: lol
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# [18:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: so, speaking of throwing you under the bus for things
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# [18:29] <ttaubert|sf> RyanVM|sheriffduty: well :D we had different standards back then so it's not super surprising that an acient test is fragile, not really blaming anyone
# [18:29] <froydnj> oo, that sounds promising
# [18:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab9f361648bd shouldn't affect anything in automation, right?
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# [18:30] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: AFAIK, it should be a no-op
# [18:30] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok, thanks
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# [18:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: ok, thanks
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# [18:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm trying to track down a spike in mochitest-bc timeouts on linux debug (32 and 64)
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# [18:34] <mhoye> booo. GKMEDIAS_SHARED_LIBRARY=1 delays the problem, but doesn't fix it.
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# [18:34] <mhoye> We can no longer build on Win32 AFAIC
# [18:34] <bz> mhoye: not enough CAPS
# [18:34] <mhoye> T
# [18:34] <mhoye> <-- pro
# [18:34] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mhoye: did you do the same for JS?
# [18:35] <Pike> do we have a recommended way to call a mach command from a make file? (I know that we're doing it the other way around more frequently)
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# [18:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: bleh, it gets worse - it's merged around too :(
# [18:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> *sigh*
# [18:35] <mhoye> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I don't know what that means?
# [18:35] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1c87ca5d769 - James Graham - Bug 1076786 - Fix some broken wpt metadata on OSX, r=try
# [18:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mhoye: js is folded into libxul too
# [18:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> the bug I linked you to covered that
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# [18:35] <jgraham> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Just pushed the wpt metadata fix that should green up W2/10.8
# [18:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jgraham: cool
# [18:36] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/d40e3d27f8e1 - Richard Newman - Bug 1137259 - Don't send Campaign:Set for distribution referrer intents. r=mfinkle
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# [18:53] <sfink> mccr8: ping
# [18:53] <mccr8> sfink: pong
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# [18:53] <sfink> mccr8: what's the "Security-Sensitive JavaScript Bug" categorization for, again? Or more specifically, why is it set for bug 1120655?
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# [18:54] <sfink> I'm forking off bugs, and I want to know if I need to set it too
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# [18:54] <mccr8> sfink: that's for JS bugs that are sec-high or sec-critical, I think.
# [18:55] <sfink> so any s-s JS bug should have it set? I thought it was for some limited purpose
# [18:55] <mccr8> sfink: the idea is that for more severe bugs, only people who work on JS bugs should be able to see them, not anybody who can see general sec bugs.
# [18:55] <mccr8> sfink: for ones that are sec-high or sec-critical, that's not all bugs. ones that are unfixed or something.
# [18:55] <sfink> bleh. Fine, I'll keep it.
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# [18:56] <mccr8> This is just what I've inferred. You'd have to ask Dan for a more precise description. ;)
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# [18:56] <mccr8> sfink: feel free to just ignore it and dan can set it as he wants. ;)
# [18:57] <sfink> ok, thanks. I don't think it really matters either way for this bug, so I'll just take the path of least resistance
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# [18:59] <Ms2ger> froydnj, didn't I see that land before?
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# [19:05] <mhoye> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Running that through its paces now, but it seems.... unlikely
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# [19:09] <NeilAway> nemo: it actually used to use a decompiler... now it just keeps a copy of the source
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# [19:09] <nemo> NeilAway: yeah, couple of people told me that
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# [19:10] <NeilAway> nemo: sorry, looks like I'm 3.5 hours behind in my scrollback :s
# [19:10] <nemo> NeilAway: what puzzled me was bz saying other browsers do that too. maybe for JSON.stringify - but if they do that too, why not support uneval and toSource
# [19:10] <nemo> ah ☺
# [19:10] <nemo> that happens to me alll the time
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# [19:11] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/600f44fd317c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1126695 - Use tooltool gcc as HOST_CC/HOST_CXX on cross-compiled builds (gonk/android). a=me
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# [19:16] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f70f885338c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound. a=merge
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# [19:18] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/600f44fd317c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 1126695 - Use tooltool gcc as HOST_CC/HOST_CXX on cross-compiled builds (gonk/android). a=me
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# [19:18] <mhoye> I'll be damned, this might even work
# [19:18] <mhoye> Who saw that coming?
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# [19:19] <mhoye> distinguished*
# [19:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> mhoye: you're welcome ;)
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# [19:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> oh great, I think the bc2 timeout spike came from an fx-team merge
# [19:21] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "yay"
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# [19:23] <mhoye> Little footnote at the bottom of the page saying "For the purposes of this award, "distinguished" is a term of art referring only to mhoye's disctinctive cries and distinctive plumage."
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# [19:24] <mhoye> "mhoye is easily distinguished from real engineers."
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# [19:26] <froydnj> mhoye: you have a distinctive way of saying "WTF?!"
# [19:27] <Ms2ger> I am le tired...
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# [19:27] <mhoye> froydnj: it's important to have a skill
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# [19:30] <mhoye> Nope. That's failed too.
# [19:30] <mhoye> Well, so much for that. /me files it
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# [19:32] <mhoye> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Thanks for the attempt, but I don't think we can build on Win32 at all anymore.
# [19:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ouch
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# [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we fold nspr as well I believe
# [19:33] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nss doesn't appear to be
# [19:34] <froydnj> nss + nspr + sqlite is folded into its own special library on win32, not into xul
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# [19:35] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: i see nss dlls in my objdir still
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# [19:35] <froydnj> disclaimer: froydnj only pretends to know what he's talking about
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# [19:36] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: i have this bad feeling that the linux debug mochitest-bc timeouts I've been trying to track down all morning are going to come back to your big push :(
# [19:37] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: nss.dll might be where everything gets squashed
# [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> nss3.dll is ~2MB, so that's believable I guess
# [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> xul.dll is ~55MB for comparison :)
# [19:37] <gfritzsche> RyanVM|sheriffduty: hm, hard to know off-hand
# [19:37] <froydnj> so much for holding down the size of xul.dll
# [19:37] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: i've got retriggers going
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# [19:38] <gfritzsche> RyanVM|sheriffduty: any details like exceptions thrown or whether its shutdown timeouts?
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# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer.html#?job_id=7019335&repo=mozilla-inbound
# [19:38] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> just random "tests are running slowly" crap
# [19:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> and on bc2, bug 1079617 in particular is spiking badly
# [19:42] <gfritzsche> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Hm, no idea really then - note that i'm away starting tomorrow, you probably want to try Dexter or vladan for more when you have details
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# [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
# [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-inbound&filter-searchStr=Ubuntu VM 12.04 x64 mozilla-inbound debug test mochitest-browser-chrome-1
# [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> shows what I'm talking about
# [19:42] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> (add more revs)
# [19:42] <gfritzsche> Overall things looked good on try FWIW
# [19:43] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> gfritzsche: can you link me to your last Try push?
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# [19:43] <gfritzsche> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1069869#c1
# [19:44] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> thx
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# [19:46] <mhoye> RyanVM|sheriffduty: Filed Bug 1137346, thanks for your help.
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# [19:48] <mhoye> glandium: And yours as well.
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# [19:58] <pcwalton> jld: want to review some Rust linux sandboxing code?
# [19:58] <pcwalton> gonna try to get it done today
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# [20:02] <@khuey> dolske++
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# [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: i could have saved you some bug filing there ;)
# [20:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> see m-c tip
# [20:08] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, oh nice
# [20:09] <dholbert> I'll dupe
# [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but there's other bustage under that one that's being worked on (at least on b2g37)
# [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> otherwise, I'll hide the jobs
# [20:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> we're on it ;)
# [20:09] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, (oh you already closed as fixed, NM re "i'll dupe"
# [20:09] <dholbert> )
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# [20:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: the cycle time on these builds is so damn long that it takes awhile to find out what else it broken
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# [20:14] <@bsmedberg> Is there a way to tell whether my mac is using homebrew or macports or both or some combination?
# [20:15] <@bsmedberg> “port” and “brew” are both in the PATH
# [20:15] <@bsmedberg> and I want to know which one installed my python
# [20:15] <kbrosnan> which python?
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# [20:16] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> dholbert: they're hidden across the board now
# [20:16] <kbrosnan> would show the path, might be a clue ther
# [20:16] <dholbert> RyanVM|sheriffduty, \o/
# [20:16] <pcwalton> I think `which python` will work, and if it's a symlink it should be linked to the Cellar on homebrew and to opt for MacPorts
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# [20:16] <@bsmedberg> kbrosnan: /usr/bin/python
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# [20:16] <nalexander> bsmedberg: it's probably a link: ls -al `which python`
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# [20:17] <kbrosnan> as pcwalton any chance it is a symlink
# [20:17] <kbrosnan> said
# [20:17] <hurley> if it's in /usr/bin, it's probably system python
# [20:17] <@bsmedberg> nope, not a symlink
# [20:17] <@bsmedberg> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 58608 May 29 2014 /usr/bin/python
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> this appears to be mac-python
# [20:18] <@bsmedberg> python -V shows /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework import paths
# [20:18] <kbrosnan> i believe there is a which -a python
# [20:19] <kbrosnan> that lists all instances in $PATH
# [20:19] <@bsmedberg> only that one
# [20:19] <@bsmedberg> hrm
# [20:19] <kbrosnan> hm
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# [20:19] <hurley> bsmedberg: that's not from ports *or* homebrew, it's the default apple install (unless something went horribly wrong)
# [20:20] <@bsmedberg> Should I install homebrew python? I want pip to work.
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# [20:21] <hurley> i didn't, i just installed pip manually, and have to use sudo to pip install anything (so kinda annoying/unsafe), but the friction is less than trying to keep multiple pythons straight on my machine :)
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# [20:21] <hurley> (at least i *think* i had to install pip manually)
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# [20:25] <hurley> most python stuff i do i do in virtualenvs anyway, which removes the sudo requirement
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# [20:32] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: could be, but virtualenv doesn’t appear to be in my PATH
# [20:32] * @bsmedberg wonders how long ago he actually did a build on this laptop
# [20:32] <Mossop> You'll have to download it
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# [20:38] <@ted> is there anyone that would profess to understand font internals that isn't jfkthame or nattokirai, neither of whom is around?
# [20:38] <Ms2ger> No
# [20:38] <@ted> figured
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# [20:40] <@khuey> gsvelto: hi
# [20:40] <gsvelto> khuey, hi, I had a quick question about bug 1119277
# [20:41] <gsvelto> khuey, I had to modify a mochitest which I forgot to fix and which was failing in the try run
# [20:41] <gsvelto> khuey, do you think it's worth another round of reviews or shall I land it as it is now that try is green?
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# [20:41] <@khuey> gsvelto: if you're confident in the test change just land it
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# [20:42] <gsvelto> khuey, yes, it's only a couple of lines where I remove the parameter that I've also removed from the underlying code
# [20:42] <gsvelto> khuey, so I didn't want to waste your time with another review
# [20:43] <@khuey> gsvelto: sounds great :D
# [20:43] <@khuey> I don't want to waste my time with another review either
# [20:43] <gsvelto> khuey, thanks, I'll go ahead and land :)
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# [21:02] <jesup> Painting is *so* screwed up lately. about:config; type "getusermedia". 3/4 of screen updates until I run the mouse over it. Type "peerconnection" and none of the data updates until I run the mouse over it (then each line refreshes as the mouse moves over it). This has been going on for days, at least. non-e10s BTW, debug inbound build from a day or two ago linux64
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# [21:03] <jesup> I've seen similar effects in chatzilla when data comes in - have to click or scroll to display new data, especially if the system is busy
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# [21:04] <jesup> And I was scrolling a webpages, and the left and right sides scrolled, and a stripe down the middle didn't until I either scrolled again, or caused a repaint for some reason (mouse, etc)
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# [21:04] <jesup> some of these are m-c builds from a week or so ago, it's not a just-landed thing
# [21:05] <jesup> maybe something right after uplift?
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# [21:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23fb39cb0f97 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1107378 part 1: Create a JS-implemented "CSS Unprefixing Service" that can convert certain -webkit prefixed CSS to an unprefixed form. r=dbaron
# [21:12] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/960037d0fc98 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 1107378 part 2: Make the CSS Parser call out to the unprefixing service, when it detects a vendor-prefixed property name (if pref is enabled). r=dbaron
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# [21:14] <edwin> i just get " Unable to send retrigger: Authentication credentials were not provided. "
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# [21:22] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> jesup: i haven't seen anything like that on Windows
# [21:22] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19f877f9ff68 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 1137408 - Use inner window to create ServiceWorker for Fetch Event. r=jdm
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# [21:23] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c5da72813a - Botond Ballo - Bug 1071018 - Work around an assertion (will be fixed properly in bug 1036967). r=kats
# [21:23] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: when a b2g nightly is kicked off manually, do you have to provide a specific cset for it?
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# [21:23] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: reason i ask is because the nightly at https://pvtbuilds.mozilla.org/pvt/mozilla.org/b2gotoro/nightly/mozilla-central-flame-kk-eng/2014/11/2014-11-24-10-01-36/ seems very suspect to me
# [21:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: yes
# [21:24] <kats> in the sources.xml it says the m-c revision was be4ba3d5ca9a but that's in the middle of a merge
# [21:24] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> suspect in what way?
# [21:26] <kats> it was a base image update so maybe that's why
# [21:26] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> http://git.mozilla.org/?p=releases/gecko.git;a=commit;h=d9a6ed0cf5b6825900ffedcb3ac7a82cfaf6c369
# [21:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> kats: I don't know, sorry
# [21:27] <kats> RyanVM|sheriffduty: ok no worries
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# [21:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> you could try asking in #releng and see if someone with more detailed knowledge of that setup knows
# [21:27] <kats> i just think that the build it created doesn't actually have all the code that was in m-c at that revision
# [21:27] <kats> will do, thanks
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# [21:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2efeca47b3a7 - Joel Maher - Bug 1131110 - Intermittent OSX 10.6 run-by-dir test_bug484459.xul. r=bholley
# [21:37] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93707c1b4edb - Ted Mielczarek - bug 1137228 - use readline instead of iterator for reading mozprocess output. r=ahal
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# [21:39] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> edwin: can you fix test_eme_playback.html on Windows please?
# [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I'm strongly contemplating disabling otherwise
# [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> between bug 1120741 and bug 1134387, it's pain++
# [21:40] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> CC cpearce ^^
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# [21:59] <nathanr> anyone know if there is a way to tell whether a xul label is being cropped?
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# [22:09] <mccr8> RyanVM|sheriffduty: do you know what component I'd use to file a bug in the thing that emails you about your try push?
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# [22:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Dev Services maybe?
# [22:11] <mccr8> thanks
# [22:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> I guess that'd fall under hg hooks
# [22:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> DS: hg.mozilla.org
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# [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aklotz: FYI, bug 1136351 already has discussion about the xperf regression
# [22:15] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> but agreed that it's better to move it to a new bug
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# [22:17] <aklotz> RyanVM|sheriffduty: yup, that was my intention
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# [22:17] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> aklotz: now that we've already hideously defiled our shiny new xperf bug :P
# [22:17] <BenWa> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I forget, for a B2G 2.1 try push to the emulator do I need to do something special?
# [22:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> BenWa: other than being aware of what jobs normally run on it and not panicking when jobs other than those fail miserably, no
# [22:18] <BenWa> ok ty
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# [22:27] <cpearce> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I've been trying to repro the failure, can't, we're going to try to fix it before we ship...
# [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it's nearly permafail on wi7
# [22:27] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> win7*
# [22:27] <@gavin> till: pong
# [22:28] <cpearce> oh, win7.
# [22:28] <cpearce> I was trying on win8
# [22:28] <cpearce> that might help
# [22:28] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cpearce: the timeouts are out of control
# [22:28] <till> gavin: quick review request for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=1137433&attachment=8570104. Just changes the Shumway SWF whitelist to include one more video player
# [22:28] <cpearce> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's in edwin's queue
# [22:28] <cpearce> RyanVM|sheriffduty: number 2 in it I think
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# [22:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> cpearce: per the needinfo? in teh bug, I'll be disabling on Friday - he can still test fixes on Try easily enough
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# [22:32] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> poiru: just hit the IDL hook \m/
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# [22:33] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [22:40] <bz> Whoa
# [22:40] <bz> Does bug 674779
# [22:40] <bz> include UI?
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# [22:41] <@khuey> bz: in about:compartments
# [22:41] <@khuey> iirc
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# [22:42] <bz> khuey: ooh
# [22:42] * bz pulls and tries
# [22:43] <bz> This might be worth updating to a new nightly for
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# [22:58] <Ms2ger> fabrice, why shouldn't I back that out for lack of qualified review?
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# [22:58] <fabrice> Ms2ger: about what?
# [22:58] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d4e5f65253d - Yury Delendik - Bug 1137433 - Add IMDb video player to Shumway's SWF whitelist. r=gavin
# [22:58] <Ms2ger> fabrice, configure changes
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# [22:59] <fabrice> Ms2ger: feel free if you want. So productive
# [22:59] <Ms2ger> fabrice, we've got a review process for a reason, remember?
# [23:00] <Ms2ger> fabrice, ignoring it and then snarking when you're called out on it isn't exactly productive either
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# [23:01] <fabrice> Ms2ger: sure go ahead
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# [23:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert|sf: is it just me, or does 500+ DOMWINDOWs during a debug mochitest-bc run sound like a recipe for disaster?
# [23:05] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: ^
# [23:05] <@khuey> RyanVM|sheriffduty: it's not good
# [23:06] <ttaubert|sf> yeah that's a little too much
# [23:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> might explain why any time we touch gc lately, they get angry
# [23:06] <@khuey> I assume you mean there's a point at which there are 500 live ones
# [23:06] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: as much as I hate to agree with khuey...yeah
# [23:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> yeah
# [23:06] <@khuey> froydnj: there are fates worse than agreeing with me
# [23:06] <@khuey> ;)
# [23:06] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: didn't you have a way of graphing that over the test run?
# [23:06] <froydnj> khuey: like disagreeing with you? ;)
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# [23:06] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I did!
# [23:06] <@khuey> froydnj: indeed :D
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# [23:07] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: where's your bad log?
# [23:07] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: let's start with this one - http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win64-debug/1424972084/mozilla-inbound_win8_64-debug_test-mochitest-browser-chrome-1-bm110-tests1-windows-build44.txt.gz
# [23:08] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/b36ee59d349e - Ms2ger - Backed out changeset 7abf54d96823 for lack of review.
# [23:08] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: kinda dickish to backout without comment in the bug
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# [23:09] <Ms2ger> Hmm? I commented in the bug
# [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> i.e. more than just a URL
# [23:09] <Ms2ger> Oh
# [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> like "Hey, this made build system changes without review from a build peer"
# [23:09] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> at least, I assume that's what you meant
# [23:09] <Ms2ger> Well, we just talked it through here, and the commit message mentions it too
# [23:09] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: apparently my script thing is busted
# [23:10] <Ms2ger> Anyway, I'll comment
# [23:10] <froydnj> oh, loading mixed content, that might be a problem
# [23:10] <froydnj> hm
# [23:10] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: i was wondering about structured logging otherwise
# [23:11] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: https://people.mozilla.org/~nfroyd/domwindow/viewer.html?url=https%3A//ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-inbound-win64-debug/1424972084/mozilla-inbound_win8_64-debug_test-mochitest-browser-chrome-1-bm110-tests1-windows-build44.txt.gz&;
# [23:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> WOAH
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# [23:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> humming along nicely, then the matterhorn shows up
# [23:11] <froydnj> apparently mousing over the graph doesn't work anymore
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# [23:11] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> man, and that massive spike is *after* the test in question failed
# [23:12] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> it was only in the mid-500s then
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# [23:13] <froydnj> I bet structured logging broke the testcase extraction for the mouseovers
# [23:13] <froydnj> or something like that
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# [23:15] <froydnj> huh, no more TEST-END notifications
# [23:15] <froydnj> is that deliberate?
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# [23:17] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: anyway, reloading should get mouseover tests now
# [23:17] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: enjoy filing bugs
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# [23:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> froydnj: all I see there is "tabview screws us horribly"
# [23:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ttaubert|sf: ^ :P
# [23:18] <froydnj> RyanVM|sheriffduty: I never said the bug filing would be easy :p
# [23:18] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> sounds really easy to me!
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# [23:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> "re-enable the tabview tests when they don't lead to massive DOMWINDOW pileups"
# [23:19] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> \m/
# [23:19] <froydnj> hg rm browser/components/tabview/**/mochitest*.ini
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# [23:19] <Ms2ger> hg rm browser/components/tabview/?
# [23:20] <froydnj> tabbed browsing is so last century
# [23:20] <froydnj> Servo, browser of the future, doesn't have tabbed browsing and there have been no complaints
# [23:20] <Ms2ger> Actually, we do
# [23:20] <Ms2ger> Or so I've heard
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# [23:20] <froydnj> you are clinging to outmoded UI concepts; get with the future!
# [23:21] <Ms2ger> How's that for a Q2 goal?
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# [23:21] <froydnj> what, "get with the future"?
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# [23:22] <Ms2ger> Ya
# [23:22] <froydnj> a little ill-defined
# [23:23] * RyanVM|sheriffduty sorta wonders how many people actually use Panorama/Tabview
# [23:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> do we have telemetry for that?
# [23:23] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, I do
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# [23:23] <Ms2ger> I think
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# [23:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> well, then it's settled!
# [23:23] <kats> i do too, in that i have tab groups i created never to look at again
# [23:23] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> lol
# [23:23] <Ms2ger> That's basically what I do too :)
# [23:23] <ttaubert|sf> we should rewrite tab groups in rust
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# [23:23] <kats> it doesn't actually solve the problem of "too many tabs, too little time"
# [23:24] <Ms2ger> ttaubert|sf, I like your thinking, I'll talk to your manager
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# [23:24] <kats> it's a human problem not a technical problem
# [23:24] <ttaubert|sf> Ms2ger: \o/
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# [23:24] <glandium> mhoye: are you saying setting both GKMEDIAS_SHARED_LIBRARY and ENABLE_SHARED_JS doesn't work?
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# [23:25] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, the situation on windows is clear as mud to me
# [23:25] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, but eventually yes
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# [23:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3065c0007569 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 1077002 - Give a better error message when showModalDialog is used in e10s. r=bholley
# [23:28] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4a1d5217e5b - Blake Kaplan - Bug 1077002 - Add a test. r=jimm
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# [23:29] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6f3b60f6f8a - David Keeler - bug 1049740 - implement telemetry to measure compatibility impact of 2048-bit-minimum RSA keys r=briansmith
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# [23:29] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: would that be a question for nrc?
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# [23:30] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: sounds like you should at least wait for 1.0
# [23:30] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/e8f0fd3fbd3b - Mike Conley - Bug 1136855 - Send a message from the content script when printing has finished so the parent can save print settings. r=Mossop, a=sledru.
# [23:30] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, we know that right now, rustc doesn't work with the VS toolchain
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# [23:31] <glandium> Ms2ger: huh
# [23:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> glandium: depends on what the timeframe is for "rewrite a Gecko component in rust" is
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# [23:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Q2 I thought?
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# [23:31] <glandium> RyanVM|sheriffduty: some time this year
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# [23:31] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, on one of {osx, linux}, soon
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# [23:31] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> ok
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# [23:32] <bz_dinner> about:compartments rocks
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# [23:32] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4a73e4bc3ee5 - Mike Conley - Bug 1136855 - Send a message from the content script when printing has finished so the parent can save print settings. r=Mossop, a=sledru.
# [23:32] * bz_dinner loads nytimes.com, observes that it ends up using more time than <built-in> did
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# [23:33] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64a4de12927a - Kai Engert - Bug 1137470 - Upgrade Firefox to NSS 3.18, landing NSS_3_18_BETA7, r=nss-confcall
# [23:33] <glandium> bz_dinner: about:compartments no longer exists
# [23:33] <bz_dinner> What is the difference there between the "total" and "own" numbers?
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# [23:34] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|sheriffduty, will try to keep you in the loop when we start poking at windows
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# [23:45] <RyanVM|sheriffduty> Ms2ger: ok
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# [23:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/305e676779f8 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1137203 - Ignore the critical displayport when a layer is subject to OMTA relative to the scrolling ancestor. r=BenWa
# [23:50] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/b2g-inbound/rev/ddf965a90c07 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 1137203 - Cleanup to ditch the fast-path code entirely and just prevent progressive drawing in the equivalent scenarios. r=BenWa
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# [23:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b19506f6313 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1132757 - Don't crash if we call WMFVideoMFTManager after we've initiated shutdown. r=cpearce
# [23:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e82e8809d250 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1136984 - Always call DrainComplete in response to Drain, even if it wasn't called on the active decoder. r=cpearce
# [23:52] <pulsebot> Check-in: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fb710e791fa - Matt Woodrow - Bug 1136984 - Use correct units for comparing timestamps in TrackBuffer::RangeRemoval. r=jya
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# Session Close: Fri Feb 27 00:00:00 2015

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