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  67. # [08:54] <karl> http://www.kottke.org/05/08/googleos-webos
  68. # [08:56] <mjs> I'm drowning in hype
  69. # [08:56] <mjs> can't even get through reading that
  70. # [08:59] <karl> mjs: though it is what is happening in terms of HTML 5 right now with the growing trees of APIs that people want to add
  71. # [09:00] <karl> the comments of kottke are hype. The bottom of it. WebOs is at the core.
  72. # [09:00] <mjs> I dunno how that relates to the article, because, seriously, after the bulleted list of hype points, I could not read any further
  73. # [09:00] <mjs> maybe I will read it tomorrow
  74. # [09:00] <karl> "There are also disadvantages to WebOS applications, not the least of which[1] is that HTTP+JavaScript+XHTML+CSS+Flash is not as robust in providing functionality and user interaction as true desktop applications written in Cocoa or Visual Basic."
  75. # [09:02] <karl> I agree that the bulleted list is not… well… :)
  76. # [09:05] <MikeSmith> what is Google Browser?
  77. # [09:06] <Lachy> MikeSmith: it's a rumoured browser developed by google, it doesn't really exist
  78. # [09:08] <MikeSmith> Lachy - thanks. btw, what did you decide to write on for List Apart?
  79. # [09:08] <Lachy> not yet, any suggestions?
  80. # [09:09] <MikeSmith> dunno, "Misunderstandings about HTML5" ... "What HTML5 Means for Web Designers"?
  81. # [09:12] <karl> recent acquisitions of Google
  82. # [09:12] <karl> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132482-c,mergersacquisitions/article.html
  83. # [09:14] <karl> interesting it is not said that they took parts in Maxthon Browser
  84. # [09:14] <Lachy> MikeSmith: interesting ideas
  85. # [09:15] <karl> MikeSmith: what HTML5 means for Web designers? nightmare of coding ;)
  86. # [09:15] <karl> designer1: you can't put this in there, we don't do like this.
  87. # [09:16] <karl> designer2: but yes look it's working in the browser fluffy2.0
  88. # [09:16] <karl> designer1: but it is not in the spec either. Let's keep our code clean
  89. # [09:17] <karl> designer2: I don't care the HTMLWG has decided that browser should be able to handle my mistake. GFY.
  90. # [09:17] <MikeSmith> karl - your designers sound like two-thirds of the Three Stooges
  91. # [09:17] <karl> :)
  92. # [09:18] <karl> MikeSmith: that is americanism :p
  93. # [09:18] <MikeSmith> oh now, the French are known to be great admirers of the finest aspects of American culture, such as the Three Stooges and Jerry Lewis
  94. # [09:19] <karl> mwahaha
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  96. # [09:22] <karl> better would have been Salviati, Sagredo and Simplicio.
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  100. # [09:50] <sbuluf> (stooges yes, lewis, no way)
  101. # [09:57] <sbuluf> mjs, are you around?
  102. # [10:00] <hsivonen> sbuluf: he is now "om_sleep" on freenode
  103. # [10:00] <sbuluf> hsivonen, thanks
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  115. # [11:07] <heycam> do any DOM objects have non-standard [[Delete]] behaviour (like some do with [[Get]] and [[Put]])?
  116. # [11:09] * anne is not familiar with [[Delete]] and [[Put]] :o
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  118. # [11:15] <heycam> hmm yes actually i'm familiar just with [[Get]] (on NodeList and friends)
  119. # [11:15] <heycam> so examples of [[Put]] and [[Delete]] if some exist would be good
  120. # [11:19] <anne> [[Construct]] would be good I think
  121. # [11:19] <anne> difference between x = new XMLHttpRequest() and x = XMLHttpRequest()
  122. # [11:19] <anne> the latter should prolly "void"
  123. # [11:20] <anne> oh, the latter works in Opera and throws an exception in Firefox
  124. # [11:21] <anne> "Error: XMLHttpRequest is not a function"
  125. # [11:22] <schepers> how does the HTML5 spec deal with IRIs?
  126. # [11:26] <schepers> ah, found it in the WHATWG HTML5 spec: "For readability, the term URI is used to refer to both ASCII URIs and Unicode IRIs, as those terms are defined by [RFC3986] and [RFC3987] respectively. On the rare occasions where IRIs are not allowed but ASCII URIs are, this is called out explicitly."
  127. # [11:26] <schepers> are there instances where ASCII URIs are called for?
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  129. # [11:43] <anne> IRIs are not yet defined properly though...
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  167. # [14:10] <anne> yeah
  168. # [14:10] <anne> wtf
  169. # [14:14] <anne> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SequencingOfElementsInHead06 ...
  170. # [14:20] * hsivonen wonders if Henrik read the part of the spec that deals with charset meta sniffing
  171. # [14:21] <anne> or with script execution
  172. # [14:21] <anne> anyway, someone needs to investigate what implementations do
  173. # [14:21] <anne> not make random assertions
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