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  43. # [07:48] <karl> http://log.does-not-exist.org/archives/2007/06/10/2124_forget_cookies.html
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  45. # [07:48] <karl> Forget cookies!
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  54. # [09:21] <MikeSmith> hsivonen - please ping me when you have time
  55. # [09:27] * karl wonders if because of iPhone SDK, tel: scheme will start to be used mainstream.
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  59. # [10:15] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: ping
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  63. # [10:28] <MikeSmith> hsivonen - I'd like to have the conformance checker return errors as a separate text/plain document ... can you point me to where I need to hack?
  64. # [10:29] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: do you mean a text/plain HTTP response or a .txt generated by a command-line tool?
  65. # [10:35] <MikeSmith> hsivonen - text/plain HTTP response
  66. # [10:38] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: that would require splitting XhtmlEmittingErrorHandler into a couple of levels of superclasses, then subclassing a TextEmittingErrorHandler from the top class of the resulting hierarchy
  67. # [10:39] <MikeSmith> yipes
  68. # [10:39] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: plus adding ifs that turn off the UI SAX even emission in VerifierServletTransaction
  69. # [10:40] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: how immediate is your need?
  70. # [10:41] <MikeSmith> hsivonen - not immediate at all -- no urgency. For now I'll just use a filter script to post-process the HTML response into plain text with just the error messages and warnings.
  71. # [10:42] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: OK. I'll add your output format request to my todo list when I add XML and JSON output
  72. # [10:42] <MikeSmith> thanks
  73. # [10:42] <MikeSmith> gotta split now -- back on later
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  90. # [13:02] <marcos> Completely off topic, but does anyone have a pointer that explains why the W3C calls their standards "recommendations"?... I know I read it somewhere but I can't for the life of me find the URL or (book!).
  91. # [13:03] <marcos> I mean I know why they do it, but I need a pointer to something authorative, as I am writting a paper. If anyone can help me out that would great.
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  106. # [16:39] <hsivonen> Any pointers to a human-readable ESIS tutorial? (already googled)
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  108. # [16:52] <anne> HTML5 differences from HTML4: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/html4-differences/Overview.html
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  110. # [16:57] * Philip` wonders why the first line in the <dialog> isn't space-prefixed like the others
  111. # [16:57] <Philip`> (other than just because it was copied from the HTML5 spec :-) )
  112. # [16:58] <anne> other? hah!
  113. # [16:59] * anne wonders if he should post it on public-html
  114. # [17:00] <Philip`> The end of section 3.5 has an unmatched bracket, which breaks my brain while reading
  115. # [17:03] <anne> refresh
  116. # [17:06] <Philip`> Looks fine now
  117. # [17:07] <anne> I wonder if I should use tables instead
  118. # [17:07] <anne> Might make it easier to read
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  126. # [18:35] <krijnh> anne: You can now disable an entire fieldset by using the disabled on it. This was not possible before. => by using the disabled attribute
  127. # [18:36] <krijnh> anne: The defer attribute isn't new to script, right? It's just specified now
  128. # [18:41] <krijnh> Nice document btw :)
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  148. # [20:42] <hsivonen> anne: regarding the differences doc: s/Januari/January/
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