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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jun 30 00:00:00 2007
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  6. # [00:37] <beowulf> i'm the dotmobi person, for what it's worth
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  18. # [03:06] * heycam smiles at hixie's latest cvs log entry
  19. # [03:08] <mjs> I wasn't gonna be mean, but yeah, we're not really up for an "HTML5 Mobile Profile"
  20. # [03:17] <heycam> html5 mobile profile makes the baby jesus(phone) cry?
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  47. # [09:47] <NiColasS> Hi! What's a web site ?
  48. # [09:49] <NiColasS> ?
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  50. # [09:55] <Lachy> NiColasS: is that a serious question?
  51. # [09:56] <NiColasS> No :P but I want to improve my knowlege :P
  52. # [09:56] <Lachy> NiColasS: http://www.answers.com/web+site?cat=biz-fin
  53. # [09:59] <NiColasS> ah so www.w3.org is the web site , while www.w3.org/something.html/ is the web page ?
  54. # [10:00] <NiColasS> correct ? :P
  55. # [10:02] <NiColasS> ?
  56. # [10:05] <NiColasS> Lachy ? :P
  57. # [10:17] <Lachy> yeah, that's a rough approximation
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  72. # [13:05] * beowulf wonders who was looking for an "HTML5 Mobile Profile"
  73. # [13:15] <hsivonen> beowulf: the shouldn't be one and hopefully won't be
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  78. # [13:52] <hsivonen> every time someone utters the words "search engines could", they should first consider spam
  79. # [13:56] <anne> beowulf, ah, so you managed to convince them now? congrats
  80. # [13:57] <hsivonen> Hixie: any particular reason why title in body is a tree-builder-level error but base, link and meta are not?
  81. # [13:58] <hsivonen> Hixie: I mean, if a higher layer catches base, link and meta, why not title?
  82. # [13:58] <anne> because <title> needs to be moved
  83. # [13:58] <anne> which is annoying on the parser
  84. # [13:58] <hsivonen> anne: umm. the spec doesn't move it "in body"
  85. # [14:00] <anne> it does
  86. # [14:00] <anne> it just doesn't say it at that location
  87. # [14:12] * anne wonders what the big deal is with publishing a draft
  88. # [14:12] <anne> some people are just silly
  89. # [14:12] <anne> LC or CR ok
  90. # [14:12] <anne> but it's none of those
  91. # [14:28] <beowulf> anne: ta
  92. # [14:31] <anne> hmm, Firefox has contenteditable too now
  93. # [14:31] <anne> that makes it probably the most successful new feature of HTML
  94. # [14:32] <anne> although interop is likely not so good
  95. # [14:34] <anne> element.style has to be allowed
  96. # [14:34] <anne> and therefore style= prolly too
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  99. # [14:52] <Philip`> It seems quite risky making useful things non-conforming, since when conformance gets harder there will be more people who give up and stop using conformance checkers at all because there's too many errors they don't want to bother fixing, and then the overall quality of their pages will go down; but I don't know how you would find an optimal balance
  100. # [15:22] <anne> good points
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  113. # [17:15] <mjs> anne: I don't think they understand what a Working Draft is
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  115. # [17:16] <anne> yeah, too bad
  116. # [17:20] <anne> hmm, somebody doesn't understand how <dl> works
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  119. # [17:53] <gsnedders> understanding? I thought that was meant to be hard with everyone's logic at the door!
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  122. # [18:26] <Lachy> anne: yt?
  123. # [18:28] <Lachy> anne: you should add <dt> and <dd> to the list of changed elements and describe how they represent speaker and discourse when used in <dialog>
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  143. # [22:33] <Philip`> The HTML 2.0 specification gives an example '<BASE HREF="http://host/index"><ISINDEX>', but it looks like only Firefox and not Opera/IE supports that :-(
  144. # [22:34] <Philip`> Hmm... WF2 says of form@action: "When the attribute is absent, UAs must act as if the action attribute was the empty string, which is a relative URI reference, and would thus point to the current document (or the specified base URI, if any)."
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  146. # [22:35] <Philip`> but that 'base URI' bit seems to conflict with reality, like in http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?%3Cbase%20href%3D%22http%3A//google.com%22%3E%3Cform%20action%3D%22%22%3E%3Cinput%20type%3Dsubmit%3E
  147. # [22:35] <Philip`> unless I'm missing something here
  148. # [22:37] <Philip`> (FF does use the base URI for <isindex action=""> but not for <form action="">)
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