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  15. # [04:23] <mjs> Hixie: are there any plans to drop <fieldset> and <legend>
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  17. # [04:35] <Lachy> mjs: I think Gregory just misunderstood the spec. I don't know where he got his information from about it being dropped
  18. # [04:36] <mjs> Lachy: that's what I figured, but maybe someone said something offline
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  20. # [04:37] <Lachy> yeah, either that, or he's read a comment about the limitations of styling legend elements and taken it out of context.
  21. # [04:38] <mjs> I dunno
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  23. # [04:43] <Hixie> mjs: no, why would there be?
  24. # [04:43] <Hixie> if anything we're extending <legend>
  25. # [04:43] <Hixie> (to work with <details> and <figure>)
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  27. # [04:48] <Lachy> I published my presentation slides from my presentation at Open Publish on Friday http://lachy.id.au/dev/presentation/developing-with-html5/
  28. # [04:49] <Lachy> I got quite a few questions afterwards. One person in particular was asking about why we're bothering with HTML, instead of just XHTML, which was fun
  29. # [04:53] <Hixie> "we're also doing XHTML"
  30. # [04:53] <Hixie> "any other questions?"
  31. # [04:54] <mjs> Hixie: I didn't think so, but there was a small chance Gregory might have known something I didn't
  32. # [04:54] <Lachy> yeah, there was a question about the security of server sent events, which I couldn't answer cause I'm not a security expert
  33. # [04:55] <mjs> I don't think they are problematic, security-wise
  34. # [04:56] <mjs> although using event-source with a URI that is not from the same origin could have all sorts of unexpected consequences
  35. # [04:57] <Lachy> yeah, I didn't think there was any
  36. # [04:57] <Lachy> hmm. possibly
  37. # [04:57] <mjs> and probably should be disallowed
  38. # [04:57] <mjs> well, it's no worse than including an off-site <script> I guess
  39. # [04:57] <Lachy> there was another question asking about the server-side implementation issues of server sent events, like how to maintain persistent connections
  40. # [04:57] <mjs> for either sender or receiver
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  42. # [04:59] <mjs> it's already possible to send an http response in multiple chunks, but it does create some server load to keep the socket open
  43. # [05:01] <Lachy> is it more efficient to keep connections open, than it is to have clients ping the server with new requests every 5 seconds?
  44. # [05:01] <mjs> depends on polling frequency and details of server configuration
  45. # [05:03] <mjs> I do not know enough about the details to say for sure
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  58. # [07:48] <Lachy> I don't see what's so ambiguous about the term "content attribute". "HTML attribute" seems like it could be more ambiguous because HTML can refer to either the serialisation or DOM
  59. # [07:48] <mjs> I think "markup attribute" is more clear
  60. # [07:49] <mjs> but maybe that would make it sound like things set with setAttribute don't count
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  63. # [08:27] <Hixie> it's not like i made up the term "content attribute"
  64. # [08:27] <Hixie> it's what they're called
  65. # [08:46] <mjs> the first few google hits I get are for attributes named 'content'
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  103. # [13:42] <anne> cross-site event source is to be done using access-control on the remote server
  104. # [13:43] <anne> otherwise you could get information leakage from intranet pages for instance
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