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  1. # Session Start: Sat Sep 08 00:00:00 2007
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:00] <DanC> the experiment was to last 2 or 3 weeks; I'm not sure when that's up
  4. # [00:00] <DanC> hmm... does json.py grok unicode?
  5. # [00:00] <anne> it wasn't really discussed
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  7. # [00:04] <anne> especially the forms working group charter seems really confused about the scope of the TF: http://www.w3.org/2007/03/forms-charter.html (or maybe it's the HTML WG charter that's confused, but I like that one better)
  8. # [00:05] <anne> it talks about things such as "tag soup" serialization of HTML...
  9. # [00:06] <anne> which is expected to be converted to XML or some such (which I believe to be impossible)
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  11. # [00:06] <DanC> libxml5 does that conversion, no?
  12. # [00:06] <DanC> er... libhtml5
  13. # [00:07] <mjs_> have we heard from the sixth person on the task force yet?
  14. # [00:07] <anne> html5lib
  15. # [00:08] <anne> nope, not yet
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  17. # [00:08] <mjs_> once we do, we need to figure out how much agreement we have on what should be in the charter
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  19. # [00:08] <anne> DanC, it does, but not for all HTML documents, HTML allows characters that you can't have in XML and several other things like that
  20. # [00:08] <Hixie> i recommend pinging them if you want to hear from them
  21. # [00:09] <anne> I think it's John Boyer, but I lost my list inspection link so I'm not sure who's on the TF...
  22. # [00:09] <Hixie> he's not on the tf
  23. # [00:09] <mjs> I am going to ping the remaining person
  24. # [00:09] <mjs> I think it is Sebastian
  25. # [00:09] <anne> oh, ok
  26. # [00:09] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=41565
  27. # [00:10] <anne> ah, maybe he's on vacation?
  28. # [00:11] <DanC> I'd expect other folks in the forms WG to know. maybe the forms WG minutes would show
  29. # [00:13] <anne> not really...
  30. # [00:17] <anne> ah, found it again: http://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/MailingListQuery.pl?queryList=public-forms-tf
  31. # [00:17] <anne> (Member-only)
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  101. # [11:18] * anne would have appreciated it if Leif was more careful in his assertions
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  122. # [16:50] <Lachy> Ok, seriously, who is Rob Johnson and why is he multiposting his email "Introduction" to at least 9 w3c mailing lists (at least of the ones I'm subscribed)???!!!
  123. # [16:53] <Philip> To promote his web site?
  124. # [16:59] <tH> http://www.w3.org/mid/bb69c1de0709080630x4736dcbbg85c65fd5a7c4c82@mail.gmail.com
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  127. # [17:27] <anne> Philip, good :)
  128. # [17:27] * anne already thought these differences were unfortunate
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  131. # [18:12] <Philip> anne: Good that there aren't JS version differences?
  132. # [18:18] <anne> yeah
  133. # [18:18] <anne> although E4X has some iirc
  134. # [18:19] <anne> I'm surprised though as Brendan told me some months back there were differences
  135. # [18:19] <anne> but maybe he forgot he took them out
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  137. # [18:41] <anne> jgraham, btw, the HTML4 algorithm doesn't seem to take <thead> into account which is problematic
  138. # [18:52] <Philip> anne: If you use type instead of language, there's at least three different versions of JS in FF3
  139. # [18:55] <anne> oh, such as?
  140. # [18:56] <Philip> text/javascript, text/javascript;e4x=1, and text/javascript;version=1.8
  141. # [18:56] <Philip> (Versions 1.7 and 1.8 seem to be the same)
  142. # [18:56] <Philip> (and 1.6 seems the same as e4x)
  143. # [18:57] <Philip> (and 1.5 seems the same as default)
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  146. # [19:06] <anne> do 1.7 and 1.8 also have e4x?
  147. # [19:07] <Philip> Yes
  148. # [19:07] <Philip> 1.5 has most of E4X too
  149. # [19:08] <Philip> I think it's just comment parsing that differs when you explicitly ask for E4X
  150. # [19:08] <Philip> (because of <script><!-- is this an E4X comment object? --></script>)
  151. # [19:09] <anne> I remember something like that...
  152. # [19:09] <anne> can you do things like ;e4x=1;version=1.8?
  153. # [19:09] <zcorpan_> hmm. so <!-- is not equivalent to // when e4x=1 ?
  154. # [19:10] <Philip> See rows n-4 and n-3 in http://canvex.lazyilluminati.com/misc/jsversions2.html
  155. # [19:12] <Philip> anne: You can, and it treats it the same as version=1.8
  156. # [19:13] <Philip> You can do ;e5x=1;version=1.8 too - it always ignores unknown parameters, and only refuses to load the script if there's a version parameter with an unrecognised number
  157. # [19:13] <Philip> (as far as I can see)
  158. # [19:13] <zcorpan_> that's different from what html5 says
  159. # [19:15] <Philip> What's ;version=1.8;version=1.5 meant to do?
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  163. # [19:50] <anne> Philip, I don't think there's been a good answer to those questions so far
  164. # [19:51] <anne> same goes for Content-Type:text/html;charset=utf-8;charset=us-ascii I suppose
  165. # [19:51] <anne> (maybe slightly different)
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  167. # [20:58] <Philip> How did http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw/2005Sep/0002.html get in the 2005Sep archive?
  168. # [20:58] <Philip> ...and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-desc/2004Sep/0001.html in 2004Sep
  169. # [20:59] <Philip> Maybe the archiver only starts a new bit when the month is different to the previous most recent post's month?
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  183. # [23:57] <Philip> hsivonen: Would it be possible for your API documentation to say what the flags like HtmlDocumentBuilder.setMappingLangToXmlLang default to?
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