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  19. # [02:58] <Philip> Mochitest says "Passed: 2471. Failed: 322"
  20. # [02:59] <Philip> (1024 + 511 of the passes come from two test cases)
  21. # [03:10] <gavin> sweet :)
  22. # [03:15] <Philip> gavin: I assume it's not good to check in hundreds of failing tests, and also assume it's not feasible to fix all the bugs in Firefox (particularly since some are bugs in the spec instead); but manually marking things as 'todo' sounds like a lot of work and I'm lazy, so I'm not entirely sure what to do here
  23. # [03:16] <gavin_> is manually marking them "todo" really that much work?
  24. # [03:16] <gavin_> I suppose it depends on how you have them set up
  25. # [03:16] <gavin_> you could also just omit them, for now, I suppose...
  26. # [03:17] <gavin_> you should file a bug to track this
  27. # [03:20] <Philip> gavin: It shouldn't be complicated, but it would involve checking each of the ~1200 asserts and comparing against the test results and marking the ones that currently fail, which would take a bit of time
  28. # [03:20] <Philip> (since I can't think of any reasonable way to automate that process)
  29. # [03:22] <Philip> But I need to check all the tests anyway to be more sure they're correct, so I'll have to spend some time anyway, so there's perhaps not much problem with doing a bit more work for each test
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  91. # [18:38] <anne-mac> http://www.snellspace.com/wp/?p=815#comment-34725 :S
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  117. # [22:17] <Philip> Oops, I think my nice simple structured YAML file is evolving into a horrible mess of regexp-preprocessed strings
  118. # [22:18] <Philip> and it's too easy to continue evolving that way, rather than redesigning it when all I'm doing is adding a(nother) tiny feature
  119. # [22:23] <Dashiva> Go feature creep
  120. # [22:25] <Philip> The features are useful and necessary, but the implementation of them is suboptimal :-(
  121. # [22:25] <DanC> sounds like you need a pair, Philip
  122. # [22:25] <DanC> as in pair programming; somebody to help you stick to the project guidelines when you're tempted not to
  123. # [22:27] <Philip> Maybe it would help to actually have project guidelines too
  124. # [22:30] <Philip> I'd guess that turning a one-person project into a two-person project would introduce too much overhead to be made up for by any efficiency gains
  125. # [22:30] <Philip> but I've never tried that so I could be totally wrong :-)
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  129. # [23:12] <Philip> It'd be nice if all my test cases could refer to phrases in the spec, but the spec is incomplete and incorrect so it's kind of hard to do that :-(
  130. # [23:12] <Philip> (for canvas in particular)
  131. # [23:15] <Hixie> :-(
  132. # [23:15] <Hixie> is feedback sent for all such issues?
  133. # [23:16] <Philip> Yes, as far as I'm aware
  134. # [23:16] <Hixie> k
  135. # [23:16] <Philip> except for issues where browser developers have said they disagree with the spec, but haven't got around to proposing/agreeing fixes
  136. # [23:17] <Hixie> yeah
  137. # [23:17] <Hixie> not sure what to do about those
  138. # [23:19] * Philip will try to collect a list of unresolved issues
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