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  1. # Session Start: Sun Feb 24 00:00:00 2008
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  7. # [00:11] <anne> zcorpan, not when it's inside something else
  8. # [00:12] <anne> i.e., don't test <!doctype html><legend>x but test <!doctype html><p>x<legend>x
  9. # [00:13] <anne> oh wait, you might be right or I'm seeing different results now...
  10. # [00:23] <mjs_> I don't think implementing HTML5-compliant parsing for <legend> will be a problem but the fact that no current browsers do is detrimental to deployment of <fieldset> and <details>
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  12. # [00:31] <zcorpan> mjs: indeed
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  14. # [00:49] <zcorpan> however, today authors have to use <legend><span>... even for fieldsets because styling legends cross-browser is such a PITA
  15. # [00:50] <zcorpan> so using <legend><span> for figures and details until the parsing and styling problems have been solved might be ok
  16. # [00:50] <zcorpan> (the styling problems need to be solved for fieldset anyway)
  17. # [00:57] <mjs> fieldset is not very important
  18. # [01:21] <anne> for IE you can have a scripted solution
  19. # [01:21] <anne> for the other browsers this becomes more problematic, but it's also more likely they will get saner HTML parsing before HTML5 is done
  20. # [01:22] <anne> if the timeline is still 10 years waiting 1.5 years for some small patches to the HTML parser in various browsers isn't too bad
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  23. # [01:52] <newbie> anyone here uses amaya?
  24. # [01:53] <Hixie> the biggest argument in favour of <legend> is that i can't find a suitable alternative
  25. # [01:54] <newbie> amaya doesn't work with ubuntu 7.10
  26. # [01:54] <newbie> it crashes
  27. # [02:03] <Hixie> i have had very little luck with amaya
  28. # [02:03] <Hixie> it's quite bad at most simple standards stuff :-)
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  34. # [02:32] <newbie> Hixie: it's quite hard to find a good html editor under linux
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  36. # [02:44] <Hixie> i recommend emcs.
  37. # [02:44] <Hixie> emacs, even
  38. # [02:49] <newbie> Hixie: but emacs isn't a WYSIWYG editor
  39. # [02:51] <Hixie> i don't know of a good interactive graphical editor for html on any platform :-)
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  41. # [02:53] <newbie> I think DreamWeaver is good enough
  42. # [02:53] <newbie> but only win and mac version
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  68. # [12:16] <anne> http://www.hyperorg.com/backissues/joho-feb04-08.html#html
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  103. # [20:24] <jgraham__> anne: Nice article
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  109. # [22:34] <anne> http://mashable.com/2008/02/24/ie8-beta1-private/
  110. # [22:50] <Dashiva> So it has begun
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