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  45. # [10:17] <aaronlev> mjs: does Safari 3.1 <video> support captioning?
  46. # [10:18] <mjs> aaronlev: I would guess it does if the video has a closed caption track and the user has enabled such to play systemwide
  47. # [10:18] <mjs> aaronlev: we do not yet support the CSS media queries for selecting one of several videos though
  48. # [10:18] <mjs> also I have not tested
  49. # [10:20] <aaronlev> mjs: i couldn't find a bug for it in bugs.webkit
  50. # [10:21] <aaronlev> either resolved or not
  51. # [10:21] <aaronlev> mjs: we're looking at how to do it for Mozilla
  52. # [10:21] <aaronlev> so it would be good to know
  53. # [10:21] <mjs> closed captioning would be handled by QuickTime, for an embedded text track that is identified as such
  54. # [10:21] <mjs> afaik
  55. # [10:22] <mjs> though I don't know offhand how to turn it on, and nor do I have a test case
  56. # [10:22] <mjs> our media queries proposal has not yet been officially accepted by anyone or implemented by us
  57. # [10:24] <aaronlev> ok
  58. # [10:28] <aaronlev> mjs: what do you think about working together with us on ARIA implementation guidelines
  59. # [10:28] <aaronlev> mjs: it was a bit quiet when i asked before, i know its not a given that you can do those things
  60. # [10:29] <mjs> aaronlev: the engineers currently working on ARIA were unsure what specifically you wanted when they got the email
  61. # [10:29] <aaronlev> hmm, well i enumerated the questions :P
  62. # [10:30] <aaronlev> i asked for apple to contribute Universal Access mappings to the implementors guide
  63. # [10:30] <aaronlev> or at least work with Mozilla and Opera on that
  64. # [10:30] <aaronlev> so we can all work the same way on a Mac
  65. # [10:30] <aaronlev> and so it basically works the same as on other platforms
  66. # [10:30] <mjs> I said that I thought you meant we should fill in a VoiceOver column for charts that also had MSAA and ATK columns
  67. # [10:31] <aaronlev> no, Univeral Access
  68. # [10:31] <aaronlev> the API mappings
  69. # [10:31] <mjs> I am being imprecise in my terminology
  70. # [10:31] <mjs> because I don't remember what the API is named
  71. # [10:31] <aaronlev> for example, how would you expose aria-live
  72. # [10:31] <mjs> (I don't thin it is named "Universal Access")
  73. # [10:32] <aaronlev> ok, I thought it was called the Universal Access API
  74. # [10:32] <aaronlev> maybe my mistake
  75. # [10:32] <mjs> well this page doesn't seem to use that term: <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Accessibility/cocoaAXIntro/cocoaAXintro.html>
  76. # [10:33] <mjs> the Cocoa version of it I guess you could call NSAccessibility though there is the similar Carbon AX API
  77. # [10:33] <aaronlev> ok
  78. # [10:35] <mjs> anyway I think Alice's email of April 30th expressed her point of confusion, I tried to clarify with her in person but maybe you want to reply yourself and be more specific about what info may be of interest
  79. # [10:35] <mjs> our implementation is pretty incomplete though, at the moment
  80. # [10:36] <aaronlev> i didn't get her mail
  81. # [10:36] <mjs> and folks are working on implementing more than documenting
  82. # [10:36] <mjs> oh
  83. # [10:36] <mjs> I think she just sent it to me, because she was hesitant to reply to you
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  223. # [21:03] <DanC> action-65?
  224. # [21:03] * trackbot-ng getting information on ACTION-65
  225. # [21:03] <trackbot-ng> ACTION-65 -- Dan Connolly to put question on html5 update WD -- due 2008-05-22 -- OPEN
  226. # [21:03] <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/65
  227. # [21:03] <DanC> I'm interested in suggestions on how to put the question.
  228. # [21:03] <DanC> I'm inclined to use a count like last time. http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-spec/
  229. # [21:04] <DanC> mjs, are you around?
  230. # [21:04] <DanC> and as to versions, I'm inclined to have hixie+MikeSmith pick
  231. # [21:06] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=40318&public=1#stats says we have 411 group participants, 24 organizations
  232. # [21:07] <DanC> so maybe 50 and 12
  233. # [21:07] <DanC> er
  234. # [21:07] <DanC> 40 and 12
  235. # [21:11] <Dashiva> Minimum for quorum?
  236. # [21:11] <DanC> right; 40 participants including representatives of 12 orgs
  237. # [21:21] * DanC wonders if 'concur' votes are worthwhile
  238. # [21:25] <DanC> ok, I think I'm done: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-may/
  239. # [21:25] <DanC> anybody care to confirm?
  240. # [21:27] <smedero> I read through it and the language looks good to me.
  241. # [21:27] <smedero> I'm wondering about the "concur" option as well..
  242. # [21:27] <smedero> I guess that was on the previous survey though?
  243. # [21:28] <Dashiva> concur is "I abstain, but I don't want to be responsible for not meeting quorum"?
  244. # [21:29] <smedero> is there a reason "concur" is not an option for the HTML 5 differences from HTML 4 working draft as well?
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  250. # [21:35] <Philip> DanC: "Shall we release and update of" - s/and/an/
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  252. # [21:35] <Philip> Oops
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  254. # [21:35] <Philip> DanC: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080516#l-250
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  256. # [21:36] <DanC> and->an donde
  257. # [21:36] <DanC> done
  258. # [21:36] <Philip> Thanks
  259. # [21:38] <DanC> concur is pretty close to that, Dashiva... it sorta means...
  260. # [21:38] <DanC> "I'm participating in the decision process, but I don't have a strong opinion; whatever most people say is OK with me"
  261. # [21:38] <DanC> but who knows whether it's actually useful fo just confusing
  262. # [21:38] <DanC> s/fo/or/
  263. # [21:38] <DanC> I dropped it
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