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  30. # [09:11] <MikeSmith> @plant
  31. # [09:11] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Error: "plant" is not a valid command.
  32. # [09:11] <MikeSmith> @planet
  33. # [09:11] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: HTML 5: Ian Hickson showing you features in browsers today! ** Planet Hopping ** Google Tech Talk: HTML5 demos ** HTML 5 And The Hear-Write Web ** This Week in HTML 5 - Episode 6 ** Alexa Global Top 500 against HTML 5 validation ** ParisWeb 2008 - registration is open ** This Week in HTML 5 - Episode 5 ** This Week in HTML 5 - Episode 5 ** On the meaning of (6 more messages)
  34. # [09:11] <Hixie> MikeSmith: how'd the demos go?
  35. # [09:12] <MikeSmith> Hixie: OK. I didn't have so much time.. Did the demos at the end of the presentation and just demo'ed video and the calendar and range widgets in Opera
  36. # [09:13] <Hixie> ah ok
  37. # [09:14] <MikeSmith> also Lachy and I filmed a segment for standardssuck.org
  38. # [09:15] * hsivonen is looking forward to the standards suck segment
  39. # [09:16] <Hixie> hehe
  40. # [09:22] <MikeSmith> it's mostly just me rambling on aimlessly.. but there are a couple entertaining moments
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  43. # [09:49] <Hixie> heh
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  45. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0442.html
  46. # [11:10] <pimpbot> Title: Re: Dirac 1.0.0 released. Comments? from Thomas Davies on 2008-09-24 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
  47. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> I'm wondering how well Dirac compares to H.264
  48. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_(codec)
  49. # [11:12] <pimpbot> Title: Dirac (codec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
  50. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> "However, it promises significant savings in bandwidth and improvements in quality over these codecs, by some claims even superior to those promised by the latest generation of codecs such as H.264/MPEG-4 AVC or SMPTE's VC-1..."
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  53. # [11:19] <MikeSmith> @planet
  54. # [11:19] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: HTML 5: Ian Hickson showing you features in browsers today! <http://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/73zg6/html_5_ian_hickson_showing_you_features_in/> ** Planet Hopping <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2008/09/27/Planet-Hopping> ** Google Tech Talk: HTML5 demos <http://blog.whatwg.org/demos-2008-sept> ** HTML 5 And The Hear-Write Web <http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/09/fixing-html-with-html5.html> ** (15 more messages)
  55. # [11:20] <MikeSmith> http://blog.mozilla.com/blassey/2008/09/23/camera-input-tag/
  56. # [11:20] <pimpbot> Title: Camera input tag at Brads Blog (at blog.mozilla.com)
  57. # [11:20] <MikeSmith> Hixie: did you see the above yet?
  58. # [11:21] <MikeSmith> <input type=”camera” />
  59. # [11:24] <Philip> MikeSmith: Yes - http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20080924#l-195
  60. # [11:25] <pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: freenode / #whatwg / 20080924 (at krijnhoetmer.nl)
  61. # [11:25] <MikeSmith> Philip: thanks
  62. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> I think Collin Jackson might have some thoughts on using WebSocket for streaming video
  63. # [11:47] <Philip> Sorting out codec licensing for client-side decoding of video seems hard enough - I'd hate to have to work out what to use for real-time encoding...
  64. # [11:49] <MikeSmith> @bugmail
  65. # [11:49] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: "[Bug 6102] Please do not break applet element in HTML 5" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2008Sep/0034.html> ** "[Bug 6104] and should prevent cross-origin media loads" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2008Sep/0032.html> ** "[Bug 6104] New: and should prevent cross-origin media loads" (1 message in thread) (12 more messages)
  66. # [11:55] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: do you mean real-time video decoding in JS?
  67. # [11:56] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: no, I don't think so. I mean at least I don't think that's what Collin had in mind
  68. # [11:58] <hsivonen> as far as streaming over TCP goes, I'd expect HTTP plus some mechanism to start at a time offset to work
  69. # [11:58] <hsivonen> (perhaps a time-base equivalent of HTTP range request is already a solved problem. I don't know)
  70. # [12:04] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: me neither
  71. # [12:05] <MikeSmith> so it seems that Safari on iPhone OS 2.1 has ApplicationCache support and actually has a built-in mechanism for using it:
  72. # [12:06] <MikeSmith> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2008-September/004987.html
  73. # [12:06] <pimpbot> Title: [webkit-dev] HTML5 Application Cache (at lists.webkit.org)
  74. # [12:06] <MikeSmith> "This feature shipped with iPhone OS 2.1. When you use "Add to Home Screen" from the "+" button on Safari for iPhone, a web application with a manifest defined (per the HTML5 spec) will be saved with any cached resources."
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  97. # [17:00] <anne> feature request for pimpbot: support fragment identifiers, maybe initially just for krijnhoetmer.nl
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  99. # [17:01] <krijnh> -_-
  100. # [17:02] <anne> krijnh, you don't have to implement it :)
  101. # [17:02] <krijnh> Sjoef :)
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  103. # [17:10] <aaronlev_> hi anne
  104. # [17:11] <anne> hey
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  108. # [17:12] <anne> ah, you didn't leave :)
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  125. # [20:55] <pimpbot> planet: This Week in HTML 5 - Episode 7 <http://blog.whatwg.org/this-week-in-html-5-episode-7>
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