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  20. # [09:48] <anne> has there been any follow-up on the charter diff comments?
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  23. # [10:51] <hsivonen> anne: no AFAICT
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  32. # [13:05] <hsivonen> marcos: do widgets rely solely on content-type sniffing and don't look at the file name extension inside zip?
  33. # [13:07] <hsivonen> to me, it seems that the use cases for widget: and jar: are different
  34. # [13:07] <hsivonen> but for the jar: use cases I have to wonder what the deal with trying to reinvent jar: is
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  44. # [15:55] <marcos> hsivonen, yes. Widgets rely on content-type sniffing (though I'm sure some implementations will rely on extensions). It's hard for me to say if jar: and widgets: have different use cases because I'm still at a loss as to what widget:// will do or look like :(
  45. # [15:57] <hsivonen> marcos: not looking at the file names inside zip seems like a bit weird choice to me
  46. # [15:58] <marcos> I'm not really following
  47. # [15:58] <marcos> hsivonen, what do you mean?
  48. # [15:59] <hsivonen> marcos: I'd expect .html to map to text/html, .css to map to text/css, etc.
  49. # [16:00] <marcos> I guess we could map all common extension types and have them baked into the spec.
  50. # [16:01] <marcos> and when you hit something unknown, then you do some content-sniffing
  51. # [16:03] <marcos> Mind you, the TAG will call me a heretic and I will be burned at the stake.
  52. # [16:04] <marcos> I'll put your suggestion to the list.
  53. # [16:08] <marcos> Hixie, thanks for responding to Larry.
  54. # [16:08] <hsivonen> marcos: well, the mime-respect TAG finding can't apply inside a zip since there's nothing to respect there
  55. # [16:09] <Lachy> marcos, I thought widgets used to have common extensions and mime types listed in the spec
  56. # [16:09] <marcos> lachy, no.
  57. # [16:09] <Lachy> really? Even in a really old version?
  58. # [16:09] <marcos> never
  59. # [16:10] <Lachy> oh, well that sucks. Cause I assumed that would have been the sensible option
  60. # [16:10] <Lachy> the other alternative is to let authors declare MIME types in the config file
  61. # [16:12] <marcos> yeah, I've been resisting having a manifest because it would be a pain in the ass to create. And because HTML5 already defines a manifest format.
  62. # [16:12] <marcos> A pain in the ass for authors to create, that is.
  63. # [16:12] <hsivonen> you could have Apache-style mime.types, but it would still be a pain
  64. # [16:13] <marcos> The extensions thing seems like the easiest thing to do.
  65. # [16:13] <hsivonen> yes
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