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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 05 00:00:00 2009
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  11. # [04:34] <MikeSmith> http://jontangerine.com/log/2008/03/preparing-for-html5-with-semantic-class-names
  12. # [04:34] <pimpbot> Title: Preparing for HTML5 with Semantic Class Names Jon Tan 陳 (at jontangerine.com)
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  20. # [07:40] <MikeSmith> wow -- T.V. Raman on front page of the New York Times
  21. # [07:41] <MikeSmith> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/business/04blind.html
  22. # [07:41] <pimpbot> Title: The New York Times > Log In (at www.nytimes.com)
  23. # [07:41] <MikeSmith> heh
  24. # [07:46] <MikeSmith> “How much of a leap of faith does it take for you to realize that your phone could say, ‘Walk straight and within 200 feet you’ll get to the intersection of X and Y,’ ” Mr. Raman said. “This is entirely doable.”
  25. # [07:47] <MikeSmith> more than doable -- it's done. Mobile phones in Japan already have it.
  26. # [07:58] <MikeSmith> "Mr. Chen, who is sighted, developed a free screen reader for Web pages that works with the Firefox browser. Working together, the two recently added keyboard shortcuts that help blind and low-vision users navigate quickly through Google’s search results."
  27. # [07:59] <MikeSmith> I wonder if that's using the accesskey attribute
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  40. # [11:08] <Hixie> MikeSmith: it uses aria
  41. # [11:14] <MikeSmith> Hixie: ah, OK
  42. # [11:14] <Hixie> might use accesskey for the key bindings come to think of it, but i'm not sure
  43. # [11:15] <Hixie> it's mostly aria and script, i'd guess the key bindings are just an event listener
  44. # [11:15] <MikeSmith> I see. Has it been deployed yet?
  45. # [11:24] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: IIRC, it has been deployed but not at the usual URI
  46. # [11:24] <MikeSmith> OK
  47. # [11:33] <Philip> http://labs.google.com/accessible/ ?
  48. # [11:33] <pimpbot> Title: Google Accessible Search (at labs.google.com)
  49. # [11:34] <Hixie> no, that's something else
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  51. # [11:34] <Hixie> i think that the accessible ui is at the regular url but it autodetects if it is needed, or something
  52. # [11:35] <Philip> That accessible search seems to have an accessible UI too, since it highlights results in blue and responds to arrow keys
  53. # [11:36] <jgraham> How does the autodetecton wrk?
  54. # [11:36] <jgraham> *work
  55. # [11:37] * Philip wonders if Sponsored Links are easily distinguishable from normal search results in the accessible UI
  56. # [11:37] <Philip> (Then again, judging by how my mum uses Google, they're not easily distinguishable in the normal visual UI either)
  57. # [11:37] <hsivonen> Hixie: how would the low vision feature detect if it's needed?
  58. # [11:37] <hsivonen> does it activate upon pressing some keys?
  59. # [11:38] <Hixie> no idea
  60. # [11:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6349] New: Rewrite the entire script processing model again" ( message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0000.html>
  61. # [11:43] <Hixie> hm, no DanC
  62. # [11:44] <Hixie> no rubys, either
  63. # [11:46] * Hixie e-mails lisa about the WebSocket protocol
  64. # [12:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6353] New: play() and pause() don't throw" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0004.html> ** "[Bug 6352] New: Port acknowledgements from WF2 to HTML5" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0003.html> ** "[Bug 6351] New: Add event handler attributes for all events defined in HTML5" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
  65. # [12:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6353] play() and pause() don't throw" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0006.html>
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  69. # [13:52] <Zakim> restarting to recover conference list
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  73. # [14:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6356] New: 00:99:00 is a valid time string" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0007.html>
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  81. # [15:56] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status?
  82. # [15:56] * trackbot knows about the following 8 users: Chris, Ben, Shawn, Dan, Michael(tm), Steve, Joshue, Julian
  83. # [15:59] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status?
  84. # [15:59] * trackbot knows about the following 8 users: Chris, Ben, Shawn, Dan, Michael(tm), Steve, Joshue, Julian
  85. # [15:59] <MikeSmith> trackbot, reboot
  86. # [15:59] <trackbot> Sorry, MikeSmith, I don't understand 'trackbot, reboot'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  87. # [16:00] <pimpbot> Title: IRC Trackbot (at www.w3.org)
  88. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> trackbot, restart
  89. # [16:00] <trackbot> Sorry, MikeSmith, I don't understand 'trackbot, restart'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  90. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> trackbot, reload
  91. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status?
  92. # [16:00] * trackbot knows about the following 8 users: Chris, Ben, Shawn, Dan, Michael(tm), Steve, Joshue, Julian
  93. # [16:01] <MikeSmith> trackbot, init
  94. # [16:01] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status
  95. # [16:01] * trackbot knows about the following 8 users: Chris, Ben, Shawn, Dan, Michael(tm), Steve, Joshue, Julian
  96. # [16:02] <MikeSmith> trackbot, leave
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  99. # [16:02] <MikeSmith> trackbot, status
  100. # [16:02] * trackbot knows about the following 9 users: Chris, Ben, Shawn, Dan, Michael(tm), Sam, Steve, Joshue, Julian
  101. # [16:02] * Philip thinks trackbot should accept private messages for admining :-)
  102. # [16:03] <MikeSmith> sorry for the noise, but I'm done messing with trackbot for the time being
  103. # [16:12] <rubys> diff appears to be trackbot += Sam
  104. # [16:12] <rubys> so, the next question is, how do I authenticate?
  105. # [16:13] <anne> your W3C account?
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  109. # [16:32] <MikeSmith> rubys: trackbot doesn't use authentication. The names are just used to assign actions to names
  110. # [16:32] <MikeSmith> the syntax for creating an action is "action: Sam to do foo by [some date]"
  111. # [16:33] <rubys> oh, so I have an action?
  112. # [16:34] <MikeSmith> rubys: nope. but I added you to the list of users/names that trackbot knows, so it's now possible for actions to be assigned to you
  113. # [16:34] <MikeSmith> that's about it as far as the IRC part goes
  114. # [16:35] <MikeSmith> as far as the Web interface to the tracker, you just authenticate using your normal W3C login
  115. # [16:35] <MikeSmith> the Web UI is at http://w3.org/html/wg/tracker
  116. # [16:35] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Issue/Action Summary - HTML Weekly Tracker (at w3.org)
  117. # [16:37] <MikeSmith> rubys: would you be able to chair the telcon this week?
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  121. # [16:52] <rubys> I'd like to be the scribe
  122. # [16:53] <anne> is the meeting in 10 minutes or 70?
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  124. # [16:54] <rubys> when is the meeting?
  125. # [16:54] <Julian> Thursday, not today...
  126. # [16:54] <MikeSmith> rubys: Thursday at 12 noon US/East
  127. # [16:54] <Julian> unless I missed something
  128. # [16:55] <rubys> I'd like to be scribe
  129. # [16:55] <anne> oops
  130. # [16:55] * anne lost his sense of time
  131. # [16:55] <Julian> yes, the holiday problem...
  132. # [16:56] <MikeSmith> rubys: OK.
  133. # [16:56] <MikeSmith> the coming-back-from-holiday problem
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  143. # [17:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6357] New: start tag parsing" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0008.html>
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  149. # [18:44] <pimpbot> planet: Building Firefox with HTML5 parser support <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/01/05/Building-Firefox-with-HTML5-parser-support>
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  156. # [19:36] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: about validator.nu r369: it seems like you also committed a patch I submitted for bug 365
  157. # [19:36] <MikeSmith> http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=365
  158. # [19:36] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 365 - RFE: split area into separate patterns (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  159. # [19:36] <MikeSmith> don't know if you did that intentionally or not
  160. # [19:37] <MikeSmith> your commit message didn't seem to indicate that you intended to
  161. # [19:37] <MikeSmith> I had actually moved that bug (enhancement request) to Invalid a while back
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