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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 07 00:00:00 2009
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  7. # [01:50] <Hixie> DanC: if you're around, in addition to the earlier question regarding the url stuff, i also have a question about rfcs -- gsnedders said you might have some html-to-rfc processor, is that true?
  8. # [01:58] <DanC> umm... I think I used some perl script from 1993 or something... let's see...
  9. # [01:59] <DanC> found it: http://www.w3.org/2001/03mr/Makefile
  10. # [02:01] <DanC> which refers to html-to-rfc.pl # Created by James R. Davis, July 15 1994
  11. # [02:01] <DanC> http://www.w3.org/Tools/davis-html-parser/html-to-rfc.pl
  12. # [02:03] <DanC> that makefile is http://www.w3.org/2001/03mr/rdf_mt , which is one of my favorite RFC collaborations: I started it and Aaron Swartz finished it
  13. # [02:03] <pimpbot> Title: A media type for Resource Description Framework (RDF) (at www.w3.org)
  14. # [02:04] * DanC hopes that answers Hixie's question
  15. # [02:04] <Hixie> cool, thanks
  16. # [02:09] <Hixie> danc: if you are still around, the earlier question was http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20090106#l-20
  17. # [02:09] <pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: w3c / #html-wg / 20090106 (at krijnhoetmer.nl)
  18. # [02:09] * DanC takes a look...
  19. # [02:10] <DanC> yes, I'm still interested in doing something with the URL section
  20. # [02:11] <DanC> it's fallen below a few other things (in particular: lining up funding for half my time) but I hope to get to it RSN
  21. # [02:11] <Hixie> cool
  22. # [02:11] <Hixie> any idea of a timeline?
  23. # [02:11] <DanC> hmm
  24. # [02:11] <Hixie> i'm looking at splitting the relevant bits out by march
  25. # [02:12] <DanC> I'd like to have something in a few weeks, so march seems straightforward
  26. # [02:13] <Hixie> cool
  27. # [02:14] <DanC> I haven't taken the shortest path to the target; I'm doing some coding/testing while I'm at it.
  28. # [02:14] <Hixie> makes sense
  29. # [02:14] <Hixie> i'm sure that section can be dramatically improved
  30. # [02:14] <Hixie> how much of section 2.5 are you planning on taking out?
  31. # [02:15] <Hixie> all of 2.5.1, 2.5.2, and 2.5.3? or some subset thereof?
  32. # [02:15] <DanC> hmm... not sure about "2.5.4 Dynamic changes to base URLs"
  33. # [02:16] <Hixie> yeah i think 2.5.4 and 2.5.5 should stay in html5
  34. # [02:16] <Hixie> well 2.5.5 might go to webapps, but that's another issue
  35. # [02:16] <DanC> but yeah, up to "2.5.3 Resolving URLs" looks like it can come out...
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  37. # [02:18] <Hixie> i guess the base URL and document base URL definitions should also stay in html5 somehow
  38. # [02:18] <Hixie> we'll have to come up with an "interface" between the two drafts
  39. # [02:19] <Hixie> ok cool
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  98. # [16:37] <pimpbot> planet: Ideal <http://annevankesteren.nl/2009/01/ideal>
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  100. # [16:51] <anne> hmm, that post wasn't really about HTML5
  101. # [16:54] <jgraham> anne: Clearly if we had RDFa in HTML you would have clearly marked it as being not about HTML 5 so we wouldn't have to rely on the natural language processing capabilities of Venus
  102. # [16:55] <anne> except for the part where I would not want to use RDFa, much like I stopped caring about <abbr> most of time
  103. # [16:55] <hsivonen> here's a business model for someone: set up a server that hosts the few good GPL and OFL fonts there are with versioned URL and full corresponding source code, AC allowed for * and cache expiry set to far in the future...
  104. # [16:55] <hsivonen> ... then refuse GETs that have Origin that hasn't paid
  105. # [16:55] <hsivonen> so that non-cached GETs fail if the Origin hasn't paid but caching still works maximally
  106. # [16:56] <hsivonen> and for a few dollars a year per Origin, lift the refusal
  107. # [16:56] <hsivonen> benefits: 1) Caching synergies and 2) individual designers not having to care about distributing the source code for GPL fonts
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  109. # [16:58] <jgraham> anne: Really?!
  110. # [16:58] <Philip> jgraham: Or, the Planet could look for tags on posts
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  113. # [17:01] <rubys0> which is worse, a few false positives or a few false negatives? I say that post was about HTML5. :-P
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  115. # [17:04] <Dashiva> anne is html5 embodied
  116. # [17:20] <gsnedders> Hixie: That script work all right for what you need?
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  118. # [17:38] <pimpbot> planet: Supporting New Elements in IE <http://blog.whatwg.org/supporting-new-elements-in-ie>
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