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  101. # [17:40] <pimpbot> planet: IE8 Beta 7000 Bug <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/01/12/IE8-Beta-7000-Bug>
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  103. # [17:56] <DanC> hm... html5lib/python/parse.py falls over at 'http://www.myspace.com/parishilton'
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  106. # [18:01] <Philip> DanC: Works for me
  107. # [18:01] <Philip> What error do you get?
  108. # [18:01] <DanC> File "/home/connolly/projects/html5lib/python/src/html5lib/html5parser.py", line 628, in endTagHead
  109. # [18:01] <DanC> assert node.name == "head"
  110. # [18:01] <DanC> AssertionError
  111. # [18:01] <Philip> (Also, is it the latest version of html5lib?)
  112. # [18:01] <DanC> I just did an svn up
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  114. # [18:02] <DanC> Updated to revision 1257.
  115. # [18:03] <Philip> $ svn up
  116. # [18:03] <Philip> At revision 1257.
  117. # [18:03] <Philip> $ wget http://www.myspace.com/parishilton -O parishilton.html
  118. # [18:03] <pimpbot> Title: MySpace.com - Paris Hilton - 27 - Female - California - www.myspace.com/parishilton (at www.myspace.com)
  119. # [18:03] <Philip> $ python parse.py parishilton.html --no-html
  120. # [18:03] <Philip> $
  121. # [18:03] <Philip> is what works for me
  122. # [18:03] <DanC> what fails for me is:
  123. # [18:03] <DanC> b$ python python/parse.py -x 'http://www.myspace.com/parishilton' >,ph.html
  124. # [18:04] <Philip> Oh
  125. # [18:04] <Philip> File "/home/philip/html/html5lib/python/src/html5lib/liberalxmlparser.py", line 64, in _parse
  126. # [18:04] <DanC> with --no-html it works, but it's considerably less useful. ;-)
  127. # [18:04] <Philip> I think liberalxmlparser is known to not work
  128. # [18:04] <Philip> but I don't know why -x activates that
  129. # [18:06] <Philip> (since --help says
  130. # [18:06] <Philip> -x, --xml Output as xml
  131. # [18:06] <Philip> )
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  133. # [18:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6389] New: Avoid double parse error on EOF in DOCTYPE state" ( message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0012.html>
  134. # [18:06] <Philip> jgraham: or someone else: Would it seem sensible to make -x just output XML like it says, and add a new option like --liberal-xml-parser to use the liberal XML parser?
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  139. # [18:16] * Philip hears no objections
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  142. # [18:18] <Philip> DanC: If you svn up and run that command again, it'll use the proper HTML5 parser and then serialise as XML
  143. # [18:18] <Philip> DanC: (I'm assuming that you do actually want the proper HTML5 parser, not its liberal XML parser)
  144. # [18:18] <DanC> indeed. thanks!
  145. # [18:19] <Philip> DanC: But you won't get an xmlns="http://blahblah/xhtml" on the output, if the input didn't have that, which I hope you won't mind too much
  146. # [18:19] <Philip> and if you do mind, you should ask someone to fix html5lib's XML serialiser :-)
  147. # [18:20] <DanC> I might be able to fix it as well as anybody else... but in this case, I think the guy who I'm helping just needs a SAX interface to myspace data
  148. # [18:20] <DanC> so the xmlns is prolly not a deal-breaker
  149. # [18:21] <Philip> (In particular, it's the serialiser in simpletree.py's toxml)
  150. # [18:21] <DanC> wild... xmlns:myspace="http://x.myspacecdn.com/modules/sitesearch/static/rdf/profileschema.rdf#"
  151. # [18:22] <DanC> oh right... RDFa ... that's what brought this up in the 1st place.
  152. # [18:23] <hsivonen> "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/PR-rdf-schema-19990303#" that's an unfortunate URI to get hard-coded as URI-as-identifier...
  153. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: Resource Description Framework (RDF) Schema Specification (at www.w3.org)
  154. # [18:23] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html
  155. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Working Group (at www.w3.org)
  156. # [18:23] <Philip> Oh, if the input has got anything that parses into a DOM that cannot be dumbly serialised into well-formed XML, then parse.py is going to work pretty badly
  157. # [18:24] <DanC> yeah, the RDF schema URI was one of the 1st ones minted; we didn't have a good feel for the trade-offs
  158. # [18:25] <DanC> that one doesn't look right, to me
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  163. # [19:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6390] New: Add a note about reaching after head state and the fragment mode" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0013.html>
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  165. # [19:17] <rubys> re: "Would it seem sensible to make -x just output XML like it says, and add a new option like --liberal-xml-parser to use the liberal XML parser?" +1. That was my fault. Thanks for fixing it.
  166. # [19:20] <Philip> rubys: Ah, okay
  167. # [19:21] * Philip supposes someone should probably actually fix the liberal XML parser, rather than just hiding it, but he doesn't care about it enough (or indeed at all) to look at it himself :-)
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  169. # [19:22] <rubys> that was something I always meant to do, but I seem to be the only one interested in it
  170. # [19:29] <DanC> timbl is interested in it... or something nearby, at least: a common parser for XML and HTML
  171. # [19:30] <DanC> cf http://www.w3.org/2008/10/22-cleaning-tbl.html
  172. # [19:30] <pimpbot> Title: Cleaning up the Web - W3C Technical Plenary 2008 (at www.w3.org)
  173. # [19:32] <rubys> lots of people may be interested in having somebody *else* do the work <grin>
  174. # [19:33] <DanC> tim has been known to do a little coding here and there
  175. # [19:33] <DanC> but I doubt he'd dig into this one
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  177. # [19:33] <gsnedders> I was talking to tim after the reception about liberal XML, FWIW
  178. # [19:33] <DanC> I might, but it competes with a lot of stuff on my plate for a while
  179. # [19:34] <DanC> in fact, finishing publication of that "Cleaning up the Web" talk is in the "At Risk (maybe next week...)" part of my to-do list for this week
  180. # [19:35] <DanC> or was that last week
  181. # [19:35] * DanC skipped breakfast and should get lunch
  182. # [19:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6390] Add a note about reaching after head state and the fragment mode" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0014.html>
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  194. # [21:09] <Philip> rubys: You might want to change the subject line of the telcon agenda emails, since the latest one says "Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2008-11-20"
  195. # [21:15] <rubys> oopsie
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  198. # [21:30] <anne> no need, contrary to other WGs I'm involved in this one actually came nicely ahead of time :)
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