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- # Session Ident: #html-wg
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- # [02:11] <masinter> ?
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- # [03:31] <karl> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jan/0122.html
- # [03:31] <pimpbot> Title: Re: Misleading title for XHTML 1.x mime type document - take three from Dean Edridge on 2009-01-30 (public-xhtml2@w3.org from January 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
- # [03:32] <karl> >Can someone please tell me why the XHTML 1.x media type note has not been changed to address the concerns that I brought to the attention of the working group? I expect the XHTML2 working group to make the requested changes to the document ASAP.
- # [03:32] <karl> *sigh*
- # [03:33] <karl> working with the community or asking like if it was a paid service
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- # [09:39] <pimpbot> planet: Is it time to start using HTML5? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/186264/is-it-time-to-start-using-html5>
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- # [12:45] <deane> karl: problem?
- # [12:56] <deane> karl: "working with the community or asking like if it was a paid service" They deliberately published a document that they knew contradicted the HTML5 spec, then refused to change it, they have deliberately caused a lot of problems for HTML5 and the HTML WG, only that group would get away with this sort of nonsense. I was advised to make a formal complaint, so what's the problem Karl? You seem to have a habit of encouraging people to put
- # [12:56] <deane> politics ahead of the web and then objecting when someone like me tries to put the web first.
- # [13:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6529] New: value DOM attribute for input element in File Upload state" ( message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Feb/0004.html>
- # [13:29] <deane> Karl: SP refused to change it even though others in the group thought it was a good idea to change the name. He also said that it won't be changed as "XHTML is not mentioned in their charter" even though it was them that "illegally" had "XHTML" removed from the charter (now it's back in).
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- # [13:34] * myakura doesn't think the group thought about changing the name, but about mentioning that the guidelines only applies to xhtml1 and some others...
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- # [13:57] <deane> myakura: Hi, from the teleconference: "Shane: Good comment from this guy, as far as I can interpret
- # [13:57] <deane> ... He thinks we should rename the document to Media types for XHTML 1.x
- # [13:57] <deane> Roland: Sounds right"
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- # [14:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6529] value DOM attribute for input element in File Upload state" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Feb/0005.html>
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- # [15:38] <ArtB> Anne, All - sorry for the newbie question here but - where can I find some data regarding who has implemented various parts of HTML5?
- # [15:45] <jgraham> ArtB: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Implementations is not that up to date
- # [15:45] <pimpbot> Title: Category:Implementations - WHATWG Wiki (at wiki.whatwg.org)
- # [15:48] <ArtB> Thanks jgraham and pimpbot. There was question about HTML dependency in the context of one of WebApps' widgets specs so I was curious about the state of implementations.
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- # [17:29] <MikeSmith> http://my.opera.com/core/blog/2009/02/04/vega
- # [17:29] <pimpbot> Title: Vega - Opera's vector graphics library - By Opera Core Concerns (at my.opera.com)
- # [17:29] <MikeSmith> "When we added SVG support in Opera we needed a vector graphics library… we decided to write our own… [it has] ability to use a hardware accelerated back-end. (at the moment, OpenGL and Direct3D)."
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- # [20:23] <karl> http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/02/04/100000000-geotagged-photos-plus/
- # [20:23] <pimpbot> Title: Code: Flickr Developer Blog » 100,000,000 geotagged photos (plus) (at code.flickr.com)
- # [20:25] <karl> "In the last two and a half years there have been roughly as many geotagged photos as the total photos upload to Flickr in its first two years of existence."
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- # [20:56] <karl> http://www.w3.org/2009/Talks/02wdn/slides
- # [20:56] <pimpbot> Title: Changes in the Languages of the Web (at www.w3.org)
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