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  21. # [03:02] <gsnedders> /away, not /nick :P
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  32. # [04:42] <karl> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/02/flock-ditching-firefox-moving-to-google-chrome/
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  36. # [04:58] <MikeSmith> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/02/flock-ditching-firefox-moving-to-google-chrome/
  37. # [04:58] <pimpbot> Title: Flock Ditching Firefox, Moving To Google Chrome (at www.techcrunch.com)
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  81. # [14:50] <gsnedders> Can someone reduce the volume of email on public-html
  82. # [14:53] <Lachy> gsnedders, the best we can do is place voluntary limits on ourselves to reduce the amount we send
  83. # [14:53] <jgraham> gsnedders: When? There hasn't been much in 24 hours unless I am missing some
  84. # [14:53] <gsnedders> jgraham: No, but I'm closer to three day behind :P
  85. # [14:53] <jgraham> There was an insane amount before that
  86. # [14:53] <gsnedders> With several hundred unread.
  87. # [14:54] * jgraham has 278 unread since the start of December
  88. # [14:54] <Lachy> yeah, I went from about 10 unread to 130 over the weekend while I was away on a ski trip
  89. # [14:54] <hsivonen> I noticed I accidentally violated my voluntary limit yesterday by posting twice about layout table flagging
  90. # [14:54] <jgraham> And 1301 unread from the start of the list to the start of december
  91. # [14:54] <Lachy> although, that may include some from thursday and friday
  92. # [14:55] <Lachy> hsivonen, that's ok, just make up for it by posting nothing today
  93. # [14:57] <Lachy> I'm trying to rewrite the security considerations section of the about: URI draft, but I don't know what it should say. It should say something about origin, but I'm not sure how much I should simply defer to HTML5, or include within it
  94. # [14:59] <gsnedders> about:blank surely just has the same security considerations as any other HTML document?
  95. # [15:00] <hsivonen> really? I though about:blank allowed cross-origin access when initializing an editable iframe or something
  96. # [15:01] <hsivonen> or maybe it's not cross-origin but the origin not being about:blank
  97. # [15:01] <Lachy> about:blank inherits the origin of its creator Document
  98. # [15:02] <Lachy> or otherwise it's set to a unique identifier
  99. # [15:02] <Lachy> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#about-blank-origin
  100. # [15:02] <pimpbot> Title: HTML 5 (at www.whatwg.org)
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  104. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> snowing in Tokyo again, but for real this time
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  107. # [15:32] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: Asian Dub Foundation
  108. # [15:32] <gsnedders> ?
  109. # [15:32] <MikeSmith> you were just thinking about what music you should listen to next
  110. # [15:33] <gsnedders> LOL.
  111. # [15:33] <gsnedders> No.
  112. # [15:38] <Philip> Lachy: I've seen very few IDs/RFCs who Security Considerations section attempts to do a decent job of describing security considerations
  113. # [15:38] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: This is what you've done to me: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/2ASV4RHBSM16H?reveal=unpurchased&filter=4&sort=date-added&layout=standard&x=12&y=9
  114. # [15:39] <Lachy> Philip, I don't see any reason to stick with the status quo on this issue
  115. # [15:39] <Philip> Mostly they seem to say "this whole document is about security, so we don't need to say anything more here", or else say "this adds no new security considerations to the previous thing which this is an extension of" or "mumble mumble something about people should implement the spec correctly"
  116. # [15:41] <Philip> Lachy: It would be good if you could do a decent job there :-)
  117. # [15:41] <Lachy> Philip, what did you think of the proposed text I just sent to public-html?
  118. # [15:42] <Philip> Lachy: Nothing, since I never even looked at my mailbox
  119. # [15:42] * Philip tries looking
  120. # [15:43] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: this girl on the cover of "One Cell in the Sea".. do you have her phone number?
  121. # [15:43] <MikeSmith> or Meg & Dia?
  122. # [15:43] <MikeSmith> do Meg & Dia live together?
  123. # [15:43] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Well, I have the phone number of one who looks pretty similar
  124. # [15:44] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: They're sisters, IIRC
  125. # [15:45] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: OK, if you come through with some phone numbers, I'll let you slide on that dope you owe me
  126. # [15:46] <Lachy> Hixie, a new version of Requiem has been released again, in case you're interested in updating.
  127. # [15:48] <MikeSmith> Qt 4.5 released today
  128. # [15:48] <MikeSmith> http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/03/03/qt-45-hits-the-virtual-shelves/
  129. # [15:48] <pimpbot> Title: Qt Labs Blogs » Qt 4.5 hits the (virtual) shelves (at labs.trolltech.com)
  130. # [15:49] * MikeSmith steps out to go pick up another Yebisu in the green can
  131. # [15:49] <Philip> Lachy: I think the second paragraph is talking about how ancient versions of IE treated 'about:' as if it were 'data:text/html,', so you could write about:<script>alert('h4xx0red')</script> and it would execute
  132. # [15:50] <Philip> so it sounds to me like that's what the sentence you quoted means
  133. # [15:50] <Philip> i.e. it's talking about the information which is encoded in the URI itself
  134. # [15:50] <Philip> (which should not be displayed or executed)
  135. # [15:50] <Lachy> Philip, yeah, I figured it had some relation to that. But I'm not sure why that's a security issue
  136. # [15:51] <Philip> It's a security issue for the same reason that supporting data:text/html, is a security issue
  137. # [15:51] <Philip> i.e. you have to be very careful about exactly how you process it
  138. # [15:52] <Lachy> sure, but isn't that covered by the origin stuff?
  139. # [15:52] <Philip> and that carefulness is not documented in the case of about:
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  141. # [15:53] <Lachy> Philip, could you propose some better text to address the issue?
  142. # [15:53] <Philip> Lachy: What origin stuff? The only references I see are in relation to about:blank, which is a separate thing
  143. # [15:53] <Lachy> in the proposal I wrote, the first sentence says: "The origin and the effective script origin of a resource identified by an about URI MUST be determined as defined by HTML 5 [HTML5]."
  144. # [15:54] <Philip> Ah, I hadn't read that far yet :-)
  145. # [15:54] <Philip> So that applies to all about: URIs?
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  147. # [15:59] <Philip> Hmm, I suppose it's not actually reasonable to say you mustn't display information that's encoded in the about: URI
  148. # [15:59] <Philip> because that would prevent opera:config#I'm%20writing%20in%20your%20search%20box!
  149. # [16:00] <Philip> Uh, about:config#I'm%20writing%20in%20your%20search%20box!
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  151. # [16:00] <gsnedders> Philip: No, it's All%20your%20base%20are%20belong%20to%20us!
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  153. # [16:01] <Philip> Lachy: So, I think I can't think of better text to address the issue, because I'm not sure how to define the issue
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  174. # [19:56] <rubys> gsnedders: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0084.html seems to have done the trick for the moment
  175. # [19:56] <pimpbot> Title: Summary attribute: attention and focus from Sam Ruby on 2009-03-02 (public-html@w3.org from March 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
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  178. # [20:02] <Lachy> rubys, I got an email from the list server about the public-forms-tf mailing list being inactive for 9 months. (I'm was assigned to be the list moderator for it, which is why I got it)
  179. # [20:02] <Lachy> rubys, can I mail sysreq and have that list deactivated, as described in the email?
  180. # [20:07] <rubys> I guess so, :-?
  181. # [20:07] <rubys> I'm kinda new here, but I see no purpose to an inactive list
  182. # [20:11] <Lachy> rubys, thanks.
  183. # [20:27] <gsnedders> rubys: Ah, I've not got that far up to date
  184. # [20:28] <rubys> skip everything before that point on "summary" :-)
  185. # [20:29] <rubys> signal/noise ratio was real low. If that subject interests you, see the wiki page
  186. # [20:29] <gsnedders> rubys: Yeah, I'd be skim reading it if I did read it :)
  187. # [20:30] <gsnedders> I've also had email shut for days trying to get work done
  188. # [20:30] <gsnedders> When I last dared look, I was up to over 2000 unread emails
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  191. # [20:56] <gsnedders> Is the RDFa thread worth reading?
  192. # [20:57] <rubys> no
  193. # [20:57] <rubys> no conclusion just yet
  194. # [20:57] <rubys> latest post by manu is best summary, and there are follow-ups by julian any myself
  195. # [20:58] <rubys> oops: those posts aren't even on public-html
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