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- # Session Start: Wed Mar 04 00:00:00 2009
- # Session Ident: #html-wg
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- # [01:33] <MikeSmith> http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/03/03/Interesting-Times
- # [01:33] <pimpbot> Title: Sam Ruby: Interesting Times (at intertwingly.net)
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- # [02:04] <MikeSmith> 花粉症
- # [02:05] * gsnedders fails to comprehend MikeSmith… again
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- # [02:29] <MikeSmith> http://twitter.com/Hixie/statuses/1275924577
- # [02:30] <pimpbot> Title: Twitter / Ian Hickson: This has to be one of the ... (at twitter.com)
- # [02:30] <Hixie> it's a pain in the neck :-)
- # [02:30] <Hixie> i'm totally stuck on how to work around an english grammar issue
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- # [02:34] <MikeSmith> Hixie: what kind of issues? Not being able to use "must"? avoiding imperatives ?
- # [02:35] * MikeSmith now sees that Hixie said "issue" (singular)
- # [02:38] <Hixie> i have:
- # [02:38] <Hixie> The DOM attribute relList must reflect the rel content attribute
- # [02:38] <Hixie> ...and I need a way to remove the "must", along with any other characters you want to remove, and end up with a gramatically correct useful sentence
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- # [02:41] <jmb> s/must reflect/reflects/ ?
- # [02:41] <Hixie> you added an s
- # [02:41] <Hixie> i can't add characters
- # [02:41] <Hixie> only remove
- # [02:41] <jmb> aha
- # [02:41] <jmb> I did wonder :)
- # [02:41] <Hixie> (i can change the original sentence to make this possible)
- # [02:41] <Hixie> (but i don't want to make it an awkward sentence to do so)
- # [02:41] <jmb> uhuh
- # [02:42] <Hixie> i'm thinking of solving this in some other way
- # [02:43] <anne> maybe have a simple mapping table
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- # [02:44] <Hixie> yeah
- # [02:44] <anne> though I'm still not sure how to do the sentence in that case :)
- # [02:44] <Hixie> oh i'll just hide the whole paragraph
- # [02:44] <Hixie> and have a separate non-normative table
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- # [02:44] <anne> k
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- # [03:06] <MikeSmith> http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2009/02/27/css3-awesome-test/
- # [03:06] <pimpbot> Title: Mozilla Webdev Blog Archive CSS3 Awesome Test (at blog.mozilla.com)
- # [03:06] <MikeSmith> I guess column-* properties don't work in WebKit yet?
- # [03:07] <Hixie> you have to prefix them iirc
- # [03:07] <Hixie> -webkit-
- # [03:07] <Hixie> bbiab
- # [03:07] <MikeSmith> ah
- # [03:08] * MikeSmith wonders about support for column-* in Opera
- # [03:10] * anne wouldn't be too optimistic
- # [03:14] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Music to keep me awake.
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- # [03:23] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlán
- # [03:23] * gsnedders wonders how long it takes to get to Berlin by train
- # [03:23] <MikeSmith> Esteban "Steve" Jordan
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- # [03:28] <gsnedders> 22 hours. Fun.
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- # [03:39] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: appropriate music: Magnetic Fields: Born on a Train; Gladys Knight and the Pips: Midnight Train to Georgia; Velvet Underground: Train Round the Bend
- # [03:39] <MikeSmith> and anything by John Coltrane
- # [03:39] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: thx
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- # [03:44] <MikeSmith> Shunsuke, Yudai - how would you translate 版面?
- # [03:44] <MikeSmith> "template"?
- # [03:44] <MikeSmith> or more specifically, 基本版面
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- # [03:51] <MikeSmith> http://dougt.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/geolocation-brown-bag/
- # [03:51] <pimpbot> Title: geolocation brown bag DougTs Blog (at dougt.wordpress.com)
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- # [09:10] <MikeSmith> https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCamp/Utrecht
- # [09:10] <pimpbot> Title: MozCamp/Utrecht - MozillaWiki (at wiki.mozilla.org)
- # [09:22] <MikeSmith> paged media hurts my brain
- # [09:23] <anne> maybe all the irrelevant bells that go off
- # [09:25] <MikeSmith> I feel like I'm at the dentist office
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- # [10:50] <Julian> Mike, what's the issue with paged media?
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- # [11:14] <A> !top10
- # [11:18] <Hixie> um... let's see
- # [11:18] <Hixie> 10. WebSocket
- # [11:18] <Hixie> 9. EventSource
- # [11:18] <Hixie> 8. contenteditable
- # [11:18] <Hixie> 7. HTML5 parser
- # [11:18] <Hixie> um
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 6. <iframe seamless>
- # [11:19] <Hixie> doing this backwards is hard, my order is all wrong
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 5. Web Forms 2
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 4. Window
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 3. postMessage()
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 2. <canvas>
- # [11:19] <Hixie> 1. <video>
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- # [11:20] <Hixie> wow, i guess that's really all he wanted
- # [11:20] <jgraham> Or maybe it wsas totally not what he wanted?
- # [11:21] <Julian> who is "he"?
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- # [11:21] <jgraham> Like you should have listed your top ten films or something
- # [11:25] <hsivonen> ooh, ooh. frames work with the HTML5 parser
- # [11:25] <Hixie> nice
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- # [16:46] <jgraham> Oh and Paraguay and Uraguay
- # [16:53] <Philip> Are the telcon times anchored in a timezone that suffers DST this weekend?
- # [16:53] <Philip> (because, if so, the note affects everybody in the group, so it wouldn't seem anywhere-centric)
- # [16:55] <jgraham> I thought they were anchored in GMT
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- # [16:55] <jgraham> But I guess I might be wrong
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- # [18:58] <Stevef> jgraham: have been discussing summary in PF, you suggested using the details element a while back, I have been looking at the details element and it looks like a good candidate, it could be associated to the table using aria-describedby. what issues do you see with the current spec definition of details that may cause an issue?
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