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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 10 00:00:01 2009
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  8. # [01:30] <MikeSmith> @planet
  9. # [01:30] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Weekly Status Report, W10/2009 <http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-03/weekly_status_report_w10_2009> ** Last week in the “Accessible” module, March 9, 2009 <http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/03/09/last-week-in-the-accessible-module-march-9-2009/> ** Limit text to the width of sibling image / auto width in CSS <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/617386/limit-text-to-the-width-of-sibling-image-auto- (17 more messages)
  10. # [01:30] <MikeSmith> @more
  11. # [01:30] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: width-in-css> ** The Road to HTML 5: contentEditable <http://blog.whatwg.org/the-road-to-html-5-contenteditable> ** The Road to HTML 5: spellchecking <http://blog.whatwg.org/the-road-to-html-5-spellchecking> ** Weekly Status Report, W09/2009 <http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-03/weekly_status_report_w09_2009> ** Examine HTML5 localStorage and sessionStorage data with Web Inspector (16 more messages)
  12. # [01:31] <MikeSmith> @more
  13. # [01:31] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: <http://sideshowbarker.net/2009/02/09/examine-html5-localstorage-and-sessionstorage-data-with-web-inspector/> ** Offered Without Comment <http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2009/02/28/offered-without-comment-3/> ** Unicode Normalization <http://annevankesteren.nl/2009/02/unicode-normalization> ** HTML Anchors with 'name' or 'id'? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/484719/html-anchors- (15 more messages)
  14. # [01:31] <MikeSmith> @bugmail
  15. # [01:31] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: "[Bug 6670] New: Allow unescaped , at least in attributes that accept URLs" (1 message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Mar/0005.html> ** "[Bug 6669] New: Rendering: s/disabled/enabled/ for noscript" ( message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Mar/0004.html> ** "[Bug 6662] New: Make clearer that "the script's (2 more messages)
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  18. # [01:45] <ddailey> Is there any way in HTML5 to have multiple <base> tags that would affect different parts of a document?
  19. # [01:50] <ddailey> Or to have the anchors take a different base URL than the images? It'd be kinda nice to be able to do that, but I don't see it in HTML 4.
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  21. # [02:07] <gsnedders> ddailey: no
  22. # [02:07] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: pong
  23. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: you're alive!
  24. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> .t GMT
  25. # [02:08] <phenny> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:05:36 GMT
  26. # [02:08] <gsnedders> Um, no
  27. # [02:08] <gsnedders> I'm in pain and can't sleep.
  28. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> yes, you're a pain, true
  29. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> oh, in pain
  30. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> real pain?
  31. # [02:08] <gsnedders> And sitting up hurts less than lying down, so I've ended up in front of a computer screen ;)
  32. # [02:08] <MikeSmith> heartbroken again?
  33. # [02:09] <gsnedders> * :)
  34. # [02:09] <gsnedders> No
  35. # [02:09] <MikeSmith> skateboard accident?
  36. # [02:09] <gsnedders> My stomach is just really tense and it feels as if there's a ton of air stuck, so I'm sitting around burping intermittently
  37. # [02:11] <MikeSmith> you may end up like that girl in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory who balloons up into a giant blueberry
  38. # [02:11] <gsnedders> That might not be so bad after ll
  39. # [02:11] <gsnedders> all
  40. # [02:11] <MikeSmith> anyway, I was just pinging you yesterday because of the WF2 date thing
  41. # [02:11] <gsnedders> I was guessing it was related to that
  42. # [02:11] <MikeSmith> but looks like we are peachy keen on that now
  43. # [02:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6670] Allow unescaped , at least in attributes that accept URLs" ( message in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Mar/0006.html>
  44. # [02:13] <MikeSmith> "maybe only if followed by alphanumeric ASCII and an equals sign"
  45. # [02:13] <MikeSmith> hmm
  46. # [02:15] <MikeSmith> if we could all just transmit our data in alphanumeric ASCII, things would be so much easier
  47. # [02:15] <MikeSmith> at least for spec writers
  48. # [02:16] * gsnedders notes HTML 5 is US-ASCII
  49. # [02:19] * gsnedders sighs
  50. # [02:22] <Hixie> MikeSmith: the idea being that it would be only for the name part of name/value pairs in queries
  51. # [02:23] <MikeSmith> ah
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  53. # [02:23] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: What should I do in my sleeplessness?
  54. # [02:24] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: smoke some cannabis
  55. # [02:24] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: That'd mean getting some, which I don't fancy doing at this time.
  56. # [02:25] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: it's easier if you grow it yourself
  57. # [02:25] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Scotland is a bit on the cold and wet side, though
  58. # [02:26] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: psilocybin
  59. # [02:26] <gsnedders> What?
  60. # [02:26] <MikeSmith> Scotland's probably perfect for that
  61. # [02:27] * gsnedders goes back to reading Nabokov
  62. # [02:27] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: there you go
  63. # [02:27] <MikeSmith> perfect sleep inducer
  64. # [02:27] <Hixie> g does not need to be on drugs
  65. # [02:27] <Hixie> he's crazy enough as it is!
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  67. # [02:28] <MikeSmith> heh
  68. # [02:28] * gsnedders adds that to the quotes on his about page
  69. # [02:28] * gsnedders finds his website is down
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  72. # [02:31] <Hixie> gsnedders: see the quote in the comments of damowmow.com
  73. # [02:31] <gsnedders> :D
  74. # [02:31] <gsnedders> Yeah, the same is true of me.
  75. # [02:33] <gsnedders> http://gsnedders.com/about-the-author is page of quotes about me mainly
  76. # [02:33] <pimpbot> Title: gsnedders / About The Author (at gsnedders.com)
  77. # [02:35] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: what about that epic poem you promised to write about me?
  78. # [02:35] <MikeSmith> that would be a better use of your time than Nabokov
  79. # [02:35] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: I promised to write an epic poem about you?
  80. # [02:36] <gsnedders> Actually, Nabokov is rather needed when I'm meant to be writing dissertation for English on him
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  82. # [02:36] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: switch to Flann O'Brien, man
  83. # [02:36] <MikeSmith> I'm telling you
  84. # [02:36] <gsnedders> Yeah, you've said that before
  85. # [02:37] <MikeSmith> yeah, but I feel like I'm talking to brick wall here.
  86. # [02:37] * gsnedders notes his Facebook profile probably has too many whacky quotes
  87. # [02:39] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: "It did not matter, it did not matter. Destroy and forget! But a butterfly in the Park, an orchid in a shop window, would revive everything with a dazzling inward shock of despair."
  88. # [02:40] <MikeSmith> blech
  89. # [02:42] <MikeSmith> "The Pooka MacPhellimey, a member of the devil class, sat in his hut in the middle of a firwood meditating on the nature of numerals and segregating in his mind the odd ones from the even."
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  94. # [03:13] * Topic is 'HTML WG Weekly teleconference http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0030.html (This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ )'
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  97. # [03:16] <MikeSmith> http://groups.google.com/group/openweb-group/msg/4aeac3adce2e0907
  98. # [03:16] <pimpbot> Title: Canvas vs SVG - Open Web Advocacy | Google Groups (at groups.google.com)
  99. # [03:17] <MikeSmith> "brief engineer's description of ARIA" from T.V Raman ↑
  100. # [03:18] <MikeSmith> "think of HTML DOM and JavaScript as a basic "assembly language" for Web browser hosted user interfaces, then think of the tuple (aria-role, aria-state) as additional opcodes in this assembly language"
  101. # [03:22] <MikeSmith> http://google-axsjax.googlecode.com
  102. # [03:22] <pimpbot> Title: google-axsjax - Google Code (at google-axsjax.googlecode.com)
  103. # [03:22] <MikeSmith> "The AxsJAX framework helps inject accessibility features into applications so that users of adaptive technologies such as screen readers and self-voicing browsers experience the same level of interactivity that is now taken for granted by users of Web 2.0 applications."
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  105. # [03:49] <MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Mar/0037.html
  106. # [03:49] <pimpbot> Title: Re: accessibility as a first principle (was: Re: New Telcon Time: Vote!) from Robin Berjon on 2009-03-09 (www-archive@w3.org from March 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  107. # [03:50] <MikeSmith> Berjon asks, "if W3C staff and chairs who are not educated about and onboard with making sure everything is accessible but also technically very competent fail to make at least some parts of their work accessible, how are we going to get Joe Web Hacker to produce accessible content?"
  108. # [03:51] <MikeSmith> think he meant, "not only educated about"
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  116. # [05:47] <MikeSmith> http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/2009/03/07/websites-playing-timing-roulette
  117. # [05:47] <pimpbot> Title: websites playing timing roulette - By Hallvord R. M. Steen (at my.opera.com)
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  127. # [09:08] <MikeSmith> http://yura.thinkweb2.com/domlint/
  128. # [09:08] <pimpbot> Title: DOMLint - Test suite against HTML/DOM conflicts (at yura.thinkweb2.com)
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  134. # [10:44] <hsivonen> Hixie: when defining SVG filter effects in text/html, it would be nice to be able to stick an invisible SVG subtree in <head>
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  139. # [11:29] <anne> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/book4/ch02.html might be useful for that HTML history page
  140. # [11:29] <pimpbot> Title: Chapter 2 (at www.w3.org)
  141. # [11:30] <anne> as for what happened before HTML4
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  171. # [16:28] <Julian> Chris/Dan/Sam: are we having a telco tomorrow?
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  176. # [16:44] <MikeSmith> Julian: tomorrow is Wednesday
  177. # [16:47] <Julian> Yesterday already felt like Tuesday.
  178. # [16:48] <gsnedders> "We're only immortal for a limited time"
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  185. # [17:11] <DanC> close action-112
  186. # [17:11] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-112.
  187. # [17:11] <trackbot> ACTION-112 Update http://www.w3.org/TR/web-forms-2/ with placeholder doc from gsnedders closed
  188. # [17:11] <pimpbot> Title: Web Forms 2.0 (at www.w3.org)
  189. # [17:12] <DanC> ACTION-103 due next week
  190. # [17:12] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-103.
  191. # [17:12] <trackbot> ACTION-103 track registration of about: URI scheme due date now next week
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