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  1. # Session Start: Wed Apr 01 00:00:00 2009
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  41. # [06:29] <MikeSmith> nico: you can set up a W3C user account here:
  42. # [06:29] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Help/Account/Request/Public
  43. # [06:29] <MikeSmith> for the Reason part, say that you would like to join the HTML Working Group
  44. # [06:30] <MikeSmith> after that account gets set up, let me know
  45. # [06:30] <MikeSmith> nico: the other IRC place I would suggest joining is the #whatwg channel on irc.freenode.net
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  48. # [06:37] <nico> MikeSmith, I sent the account request, and joined #whatwg on freenode
  49. # [06:37] <MikeSmith> cool
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  57. # [09:47] <billyjackass> hsivonen: btw, cycle for compiling and rebuilding and restarting my local v.nu to test changes takes a long time mostly due to the 7 "svn updates" that the build script runs each time
  58. # [09:47] * billyjackass is now known as MikeSmith
  59. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> there's currently no way to tell the build script to skip those checkouts/updates, is there?
  60. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> if there isn't, maybe I can add one
  61. # [09:50] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: you could run the target 'build' instead of the target 'all'
  62. # [09:51] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: but then you need to make sure you run the steps that copy the schemas into the right Java package for jarring
  63. # [09:52] <MikeSmith> OK
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  77. # [14:57] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: OK, please hit me with some clue stick
  78. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> I'm struggling to figure out how to get location from node for label with descendants
  79. # [14:59] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: you put the locator in the map whan you saw the label, right?
  80. # [14:59] <hsivonen> or a copy of the locator, rather
  81. # [15:01] <MikeSmith> yeah
  82. # [15:03] <MikeSmith> now at the point of trying to figure out what method/mechanism to use to get the actual location date back
  83. # [15:04] * MikeSmith reckons he might concentrate better if he didn't try to made code changes while sitting on a crowded train
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  85. # [15:18] <MikeSmith> myakura: did you go to the sBlog meetup tonight?
  86. # [15:19] <myakura> MikeSmith: sBlog?
  87. # [15:19] <MikeSmith> the thing in Gotanda.. i thought you went before with me and Andreas
  88. # [15:20] <MikeSmith> hmm, or maybe not
  89. # [15:20] * MikeSmith tired
  90. # [15:22] <MikeSmith> myakura: you are online pretty late some nights too.. curious how much sleep you usually get
  91. # [15:22] <myakura> hmm, i think i've never been to gotanda...
  92. # [15:23] <MikeSmith> myakura: you're not missing much as far as gotanda goes
  93. # [15:23] <MikeSmith> but the sBlog thing is monthly informal get-together at an Indian restaurant there
  94. # [15:24] * myakura googled and found.
  95. # [15:24] <MikeSmith> 飲み放題
  96. # [15:25] <MikeSmith> except for me they enforce some limit
  97. # [15:25] <MikeSmith> special case
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  99. # [15:25] <MikeSmith> myakura: anyway, it's quite fun sometimes
  100. # [15:25] <myakura> ah, i think i heard from you about that.
  101. # [15:26] <MikeSmith> format is just that they pass a laptop around, you open whatever pages/site it is that want to talk about or demo, then people just take turns talking or demo'ing for 5 minutes or so
  102. # [15:28] <myakura> MikeSmith: i think amachang met you there and blogged about that
  103. # [15:28] <MikeSmith> ah yeah
  104. # [15:28] <myakura> so it's ブログディナー right?
  105. # [15:28] <MikeSmith> yep
  106. # [15:29] <myakura> sounds interesting, i should be there next time.
  107. # [15:31] <MikeSmith> myakura: wanted to go tonight but was stuck at SFC til late
  108. # [15:33] <MikeSmith> on my way back now.. 小田急線 so annoyingly slow
  109. # [15:34] <myakura> and it's raining here.
  110. # [15:36] <MikeSmith> yeah, here too
  111. # [15:36] <MikeSmith> wherever I am now
  112. # [15:37] <MikeSmith> somewhere between Fujisawa and Machida I think
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  114. # [15:44] <hsivonen> are there any good use cases for applying styles to SVG camelCase elements?
  115. # [15:46] <ed_work> of course there is
  116. # [15:46] <ed_work> why would you not want to style svg elements?
  117. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> ed_work: btw, you going to be at the TPAC as well as SVG Open?
  118. # [15:46] <hsivonen> ed_work: the camelCase elements seem to be filter effects, gradient and alternative glyph definitions
  119. # [15:46] <hsivonen> ed_work: as opposed to paintable shapes
  120. # [15:47] <ed_work> it's somewhat like saying "are there any good usecases for not applying style to html elements?"
  121. # [15:47] <ed_work> -not
  122. # [15:47] <ed_work> foreignObject?
  123. # [15:47] <hsivonen> ed_work: that's different, yes
  124. # [15:48] <hsivonen> but do style properties apply in a useful way to filter effect names?
  125. # [15:49] <ed_work> MikeSmith: depends where and when TPAC happens i guess
  126. # [15:52] <ed_work> hsivonen: filter effect elements, well..they usually don't have much styleable stuff on them true, lighting-color is one example though (on feDiffuseLighting and feSpecularLighting)
  127. # [15:53] <MikeSmith> TPAC is in Santa Clara in November
  128. # [15:54] <MikeSmith> first week of November, iirc
  129. # [15:54] <hsivonen> ed_work: ok, so there are use cases
  130. # [15:55] <hsivonen> which means selectors need to match on those :-(
  131. # [15:55] <ed_work> textPath is another example that can usefully be styled
  132. # [15:58] <hsivonen> ed_work: thanks
  133. # [15:58] <hsivonen> ed_work: looks like it's simplest to support all camelCase names so far minted except textArea
  134. # [16:05] <ed_work> MikeSmith: if the SVG WG decides to meet there I'm likely to go
  135. # [16:05] <MikeSmith> ed_work: I think SVG WG is currently planning to meet only the month before, at SVG Open
  136. # [16:05] <MikeSmith> in basically the same area
  137. # [16:08] <ed_work> yeah, I'm guessing it's either or
  138. # [16:13] <MikeSmith> I see
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