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  1. # Session Start: Fri Apr 03 00:00:00 2009
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  6. # [01:27] * Topic is 'HTML WG 12 Mar http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0041.html (This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ )'
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  28. # [09:09] <hsivonen> the htmlparser is already at r514
  29. # [09:10] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: you're using separate repositories?
  30. # [09:10] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: yes. probably a bad idea but that's the setup
  31. # [09:10] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: deployment script running for r400 now
  32. # [09:11] <MikeSmith> cool
  33. # [09:12] <MikeSmith> anyway, doesn't seem like a bad idea unless your're making changes across the repositories at the same time
  34. # [09:13] <MikeSmith> so that you could have atomic checkin and could revert back to whatever state/rev of the whole thing
  35. # [09:13] <MikeSmith> to try to isolate a bug or whatever
  36. # [09:22] <hsivonen> I occasionally do non-atomic multi-repository check-ins and hope that no one happens to check out at that time
  37. # [09:29] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=74
  38. # [09:29] <MikeSmith> consolidated some rules by using <name> to report name of context node
  39. # [09:29] <MikeSmith> maybe it's overkill
  40. # [09:30] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: makes sense. My XPath skills just sucked.
  41. # [09:31] <MikeSmith> mine still suck. just suck a bit less than my java skills
  42. # [09:31] <MikeSmith> also http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=468
  43. # [09:32] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 468 - investigate using XSLT key() mechanism for improving assertions.sch (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  44. # [09:32] <MikeSmith> using keys in the schematron checking might make a very significant performance difference
  45. # [09:33] <MikeSmith> ten or maybe even tens of times faster, possibly
  46. # [09:35] <MikeSmith> anyway, I'll mess with that and see what I get
  47. # [09:37] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: or maybe not
  48. # [09:38] <MikeSmith> just looking through assertions.sch again now, I don't see much that would benefit from use of keys
  49. # [09:38] <MikeSmith> not a lot of costly XPath lookups in there, actually
  50. # [09:38] <MikeSmith> as far as I can see
  51. # [09:39] <MikeSmith> I guess the schematron slowness you had was mostly just due to general slowness of XSLT
  52. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: one last thing for now: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=470
  53. # [09:41] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 470 - remove constraint that blockquote can't have header or address ancestors (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  54. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> I can't find where in the spec those constraints on blockquote came from
  55. # [09:42] <MikeSmith> that blockquote can't have header or address ancestors
  56. # [09:44] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: I'm pretty sure it used to be there, but if isn't now, the constraint is a bug
  57. # [09:45] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: dunno, I cuold be missing something
  58. # [09:45] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: maybe was because of the outline algorithm?
  59. # [09:45] <hsivonen> possible
  60. # [09:46] <hsivonen> I haven't yet gotten to reviewing the new one properly
  61. # [09:46] <hsivonen> I really should implement it
  62. # [09:46] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: was blockquote ever "sectioning content"? maybe it was before. but just "sectioning root" now
  63. # [09:47] <hsivonen> that might be it
  64. # [09:47] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: current outline algorithm seems to have a bug with respect to <header>
  65. # [09:47] <hsivonen> I think it was a sectioning element for the purpose of content models but masked its internal outline
  66. # [09:47] <MikeSmith> zcorpan bug from yesterday
  67. # [09:49] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: so OK if I go ahead and remove the blockquote check from both the java and schematron checking?
  68. # [09:49] <hsivonen> ok
  69. # [09:49] <MikeSmith> ok, will do
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  80. # [14:28] <anne> MikeSmith, why is pimpbot no longer reporting new bug comments?
  81. # [14:28] * anne was using that feature
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