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  1. # Session Start: Mon Apr 13 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
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  16. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> @changes
  17. # [06:34] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Update abstract for Oracle. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0036.html> ** Add keygen to the void element list; make those element lists alphabetical; correct an acknowledgement spelling. (whatwg r2961) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0035.html> ** 1.2125 2961 Add keygen to the void element list; make those element lists alphabetical; (8 more messages)
  18. # [07:27] <MikeSmith> @changes
  19. # [07:27] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Update abstract for Oracle. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0036.html> ** Add keygen to the void element list; make those element lists alphabetical; correct an acknowledgement spelling. (whatwg r2961) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0035.html> ** 1.2125 2961 Add keygen to the void element list; make those element lists alphabetical; (8 more messages)
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  24. # [07:32] <pimpbot> changes: "initial add" (15 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Apr/0051.html>
  25. # [08:41] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: when you get back to keyboard, wanted to ask what you think about having GNU-formatted output also include the "Content model for element foo" information and "Element-specific attributes for element foo", the way the HTML output does
  26. # [08:41] <MikeSmith> for GNU, it seems like it could be included as an info message
  27. # [08:46] <MikeSmith> separate from the error message
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  33. # [09:52] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: also wanted to ask you if there is any way to run plain-vanilla jing from command line in a way that makes it aware of the HTML5 datatype library
  34. # [09:53] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: magic should happen if you have the datatype lib in classpath
  35. # [09:53] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: my initial reaction to exposing elaborations in the GNU format is negative, but I'll think about it
  36. # [09:54] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: thanks
  37. # [09:55] <MikeSmith> about the datatypes, I think I tried already putting the jar in my classpath, and it didn't seem to work
  38. # [09:55] <MikeSmith> but i'll try again and confirm
  39. # [09:55] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: then I have no idea how to make it work. did you also put rhino and icu4j in the classpath?
  40. # [09:56] <MikeSmith> no
  41. # [09:56] <MikeSmith> I guess I need to do that too?
  42. # [09:56] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: try putting those in there, too
  43. # [09:56] <MikeSmith> OK
  44. # [10:19] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: tried with same classpath as v.nu uses (all dependencies and jars), but for whatever reason, does not seem to find/use the datatype lib
  45. # [10:19] <MikeSmith> http://pastebin.com/m6c268fc3
  46. # [10:19] <pimpbot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
  47. # [10:23] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: sorry, I don't know why that happens :-(
  48. # [10:59] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: I find that running com.thaiopensource.relaxng.util.Driver directly works
  49. # [10:59] <MikeSmith> as opposed to using -jar
  50. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> so I once again re-learn the lesson not to trust -jar executable-jar thing
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  52. # [11:01] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: oh, you can't use -jar together with classpath
  53. # [11:01] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: it sucks. badly
  54. # [11:01] <MikeSmith> OK
  55. # [11:02] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: you need to put everything in classpath and then run the main class by name
  56. # [11:02] <MikeSmith> I see
  57. # [11:02] * MikeSmith (re)writes mental note to never use -jar at all, ever
  58. # [11:03] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: sorry I didn't catch -jar in you pastebin
  59. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: no problem
  60. # [11:03] <hsivonen> indeed a mental note never to use -jar is useful
  61. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> java command itself should emit a warning message: "You're using the -jar switch, that's usually a really bad idea. Are you sure that's what you want to do?"
  62. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: anyway, I learn best the hard way
  63. # [11:05] <MikeSmith> the more pain and suffering, the more likely I'll remember :)
  64. # [11:06] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: btw, this patch seems to fix the problem with "#null" links in error messages:
  65. # [11:06] <MikeSmith> http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=79
  66. # [11:06] <MikeSmith> did some testing and it doesn't seem to regress anything so far as I can see
  67. # [11:07] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: if the ids were consistently hoisted to h4 by Hixie, looks good
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  69. # [11:24] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: yeah, as far as I can see, they IDs are all on h4s now
  70. # [11:24] <MikeSmith> but I'm actually writing test cases now to confirm
  71. # [11:29] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: the only problem case I found so far is for h1-h6
  72. # [11:30] <MikeSmith> because there are not separate IDs for those
  73. # [11:30] <MikeSmith> instead, it's <h4 id=the-h1,-h2,-h3,-h4,-h5,-and-h6-elements>
  74. # [11:33] <MikeSmith> <h4 id=the-h1,-h2,-h3,-h4,-h5,-and-h6-elements><span class=secno>4.4.6 </span>The <dfn><code>h1</code></dfn>, <dfn><code>h2</code></dfn>
  75. # [11:33] <MikeSmith> etc.
  76. # [11:34] <MikeSmith> anyway, I'll try to write a patch for Html5SpecBuilder.java to cover that case too
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  87. # [14:06] <pimpbot> planet: Getting to the depths of “time” <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/QBtbrae3IXE/html5-time>
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  106. # [18:07] <pimpbot> planet: This Week in HTML 5 - Episode 30 <http://blog.whatwg.org/this-week-in-html-5-episode-30>
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