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  1. # Session Start: Fri May 01 00:00:00 2009
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  10. # [01:37] <MikeSmith> Hixie: so <header> is now allowed to contain <footer>?
  11. # [01:38] <Hixie> i guess
  12. # [01:38] <Hixie> i can disallow that specifically if people think that's confusing
  13. # [01:42] <MikeSmith> Hixie: I don't know if it's confusing, but it would maybe seem like an authoring mistake that an author would want caught and reported by a validator
  14. # [01:42] <MikeSmith> or maybe there's some legitimate use for footer in header that I don't see
  15. # [01:42] <Hixie> i'll disallow it and see who complains
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  17. # [01:46] <MikeSmith> Hixie: are there any cases where it makes sense for the redefined header to contain sectioning content?
  18. # [01:46] <Hixie> <nav>, primarily
  19. # [01:46] <MikeSmith> ah yeah
  20. # [01:47] <MikeSmith> OK
  21. # [01:50] <MikeSmith> Hixie: is it just <nav>? if it doesn't make sense for it to contain <section> or <article> or <aside> then maybe those should be disallowed in it, along with <footer>
  22. # [01:50] <Hixie> <aside> might make sense
  23. # [01:50] <Hixie> <section> even maybe, in fact there's an example in the spec where the <header> has a subsection
  24. # [01:51] <Hixie> <article> would be stretching it i expect
  25. # [01:52] <MikeSmith> OK
  26. # [01:53] <MikeSmith> nother question: should <address> and <footer> be allowed to contain <header>?
  27. # [01:55] <MikeSmith> Hixie: ☆↑
  28. # [01:55] <Hixie> was that an arrow with combining empty white star?!
  29. # [01:56] <MikeSmith> Hixie: I don't know what it is. I just press keys and stuff comes out
  30. # [01:56] <Hixie> hah
  31. # [01:56] <Hixie> i think the answer to your question was "no"
  32. # [01:56] <MikeSmith> those are shift-jis characters that are in my Japanese IME
  33. # [01:56] <Hixie> and i'll fix the spec accordingly
  34. # [01:57] <MikeSmith> dansu
  35. # [01:57] <MikeSmith> oops
  36. # [01:57] <MikeSmith> └|∵|┐♪┌|∵|┘
  37. # [02:02] <Hixie> fixed
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  39. # [02:05] <billyjackass> Hixie: thanks
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  45. # [03:48] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=89
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  48. # [04:08] <MikeSmith> Hixie: so is there a case where it would make sense of a <header> to have no h1-h6 descendants?
  49. # [04:10] <MikeSmith> <section><h1>foo</h1><header>...</header>...
  50. # [04:10] <MikeSmith> s/make sense of/make sense for/
  51. # [04:19] <MikeSmith> hmm, that does seem like one way that authors will use it anyway, regardless
  52. # [04:19] <MikeSmith> and not really anything wrong with it
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  57. # [06:41] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: looks ok
  58. # [06:41] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: attachment 89 that is
  59. # [06:44] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: OK, thanks
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  66. # [10:43] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/attachment.cgi?id=95
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  86. # [15:58] <pimpbot> changes: fixed problem with TOC skip link, move TOC-generating XSL code to separate file <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0000.html>
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