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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 28 00:00:00 2009
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  14. # [01:02] <pimpbot> planet: dailymotion and open video <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChristopherBlizzard/~3/Sys8bjMX2tg/>
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  17. # [02:02] <pimpbot> planet: Dailymotion Supports Open Video <http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2009/05/27/dailymotion-supports-open-video/>
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  30. # [08:03] <pimpbot> planet: A good day for Open Video. A long way to go! <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/oadGTg9hvio/a-good-day-for-open-video-a-long-way-to-go>
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  36. # [09:34] <pimpbot> changes: "Big changes to Workers and SharedWorkers to make their lifetime model easier. Move 'close' events to v2. Also, fix some omissions and xref problems that I ran across. (whatwg r3143)" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0073.html>
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  42. # [11:34] <pimpbot> changes: Only directly created nested workers inherit the lifetime requirements; ports on their own don't do it. (whatwg r3144) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0074.html>
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  51. # [12:52] <karl> http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/59069/notices/824811/recent=10;category=transport;subcategory=highways
  52. # [12:52] <pimpbot> Title: Highways Notices: (at www.london-gazette.co.uk)
  53. # [12:52] <karl> page containing RDFa
  54. # [12:53] <jgraham> karl: That is well known to contain RDFa. I would be more interested to see someone doing something interesting with it
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  59. # [13:07] <karl> jgraham: indeed a bit like the 'p' element.
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  61. # [13:14] <jgraham> karl: Arguably people do intereesting things with CSS and the "p" elements. Like getting the default presentation right. So I'm not really sure how that's similar
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  65. # [13:36] <anne> heycam, you're saying that's what I'm missing?
  66. # [13:37] <anne> heycam, did you read LGPL 2.1 section 11?
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  76. # [14:33] <heycam> anne, no i didn't
  77. # [14:33] <heycam> but hsivonen mentioned it in a reply to me
  78. # [14:34] <heycam> so you think google may license mpeg for the world?
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  80. # [14:39] <anne> I have a hard time understanding the legal implications and options they have
  81. # [14:40] <anne> It would certainly be cool, and more or less required I think if they just ship with FFmpeg, but it seems like at least for Chromium they have disabled parts.
  82. # [14:42] <heycam> mm
  83. # [14:43] <heycam> might be good for the issue to be forced, anyway
  84. # [14:45] <gsnedders> anne: I don't think paying a patent license stops them from complying with the LGPL
  85. # [14:45] <gsnedders> Under my reading of section 11
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  90. # [14:47] <anne> gsnedders, the point is that the patent license would also cover everyone else getting the code from Google's code base
  91. # [14:48] <anne> gsnedders, as far as I can tell
  92. # [14:48] <hsivonen> gsnedders: the usual reading of section 11 is that you don't get to distribute if you get a patent license for yourself but not downstream
  93. # [14:48] <hsivonen> gsnedders: IANAL, of course
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  97. # [15:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6973] New: Support <textarea>.textLength <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0036.html>
  98. # [15:05] <pimpbot> planet: Open video: chicken, meet egg <http://standblog.org/blog/post/2009/05/28/Open-video%3A-chicken%2C-meet-egg>
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  105. # [16:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6974] New: Please be explicit about inheritance of scripting flag when setting innerHTML <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0037.html>
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  110. # [17:06] <pimpbot> planet: Video on the Web <http://annevankesteren.nl/2009/05/web-video>
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  119. # [18:03] <dsinger> zakim, who is here?
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  121. # [18:04] <dsinger> zakim, who is here?
  122. # [18:04] <Zakim> sorry, dsinger, I don't know what conference this is
  123. # [18:04] <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger, aroben, dbaron, Julian, drry, billmason, anne, billyjackass, maddiin, tlr, heycam, ChrisWilson, tH, gavin_, ROBOd, pimpbot, phenny, karl, krijnh, gsnedders,
  124. # [18:04] <Zakim> ... takkaria, Shunsuke, gavin, Hixie, jmb, RRSAgent, ed_work, Dashiva, xover, theanxy, sryo, trackbot, jgraham, hober, hsivonen, Philip, deltab, inimino, Yudai
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  126. # [18:04] <Julian> dsinger: no telco today
  127. # [18:04] <Julian> dsinger: no chairs available :-)
  128. # [18:04] <dsinger> ah
  129. # [18:04] <gsnedders> Oh, how boring. Just Zakim mentioning that I'm here again.
  130. # [18:05] <dsinger> and there was I breaking the speed limit to get here on time
  131. # [18:06] * dsinger hm, how do I dis-invite zakim?
  132. # [18:07] <gsnedders> Zakim: leave
  133. # [18:07] <gsnedders> Zakim: quit
  134. # [18:07] <gsnedders> It's something like that, IIRC
  135. # [18:07] <dsinger> zakim, leave
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  137. # [18:08] * dsinger whoohoo, that did it
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  139. # [18:10] * gsnedders waves
  140. # [18:10] * Julian comma instead of colon -- maybe a lesson for namespace prefix discussions?
  141. # [18:12] <Philip> I don't think we could use commas for namespace separators, it'd conflict with all the people who write <meta name=keywords content=one, two, three> :-p
  142. # [18:13] <Julian> seimcolon then :-)
  143. # [18:13] <Julian> s/seimcolon/semicolon/
  144. # [18:13] * gsnedders suggests a hyphen
  145. # [18:15] <Philip> Julian: Are you crazy? That's going to conflict with all the people who already use attributes named width:105px;filter:glow(color !
  146. # [18:15] <gsnedders> Can someone kill that spider in here?
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  148. # [18:17] <Dashiva> There's a spider?
  149. # [18:18] <Philip> Perhaps gsnedders was the spider
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  151. # [18:21] <Philip> gsnedders: Don't deny you're the spider
  152. # [18:28] <Dashiva> I wonder if the spider had only seven legs, and was really happy
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  180. # [22:19] <gsnedders> Does http://www.w3.org/mid/4A1EDE5B.3020409@intertwingly.net not contradict itself by doing exactly what it says need not be done? :P
  181. # [22:33] <Philip> gsnedders: Not exactly - it says "simply echo[ing]" is not needed, and because it says that it's doing more than simply echoing
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  190. # [23:37] <gsnedders> Is http://svenellingen.com/stream a table? It isn't really date/title, because the right hand column contains descriptions too.
  191. # [23:37] <pimpbot> Title: Sven Ellingen: the stream (at svenellingen.com)
  192. # [23:37] <pimpbot> changes: Allow workers to be GC'ed when they become useless. (whatwg r3145) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0075.html>
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  194. # [23:44] * gsnedders can't decide…
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  196. # [23:52] <Philip> gsnedders: Remember to solve real problems, rather than worrying pointlessly about whether it "is" a table or not :-p
  197. # [23:52] <gsnedders> Philip: Peh! Real problems!
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