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  7. # [00:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6976] New: Image Map Example fails Validation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0038.html>
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  9. # [00:39] <pimpbot> planet: Chrome Experiments at Google I/O <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/5CK_rvitRdw/chrome-experiments-at-google-io.html>
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  14. # [01:39] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 isn't a standard yet <http://www.w3.org/QA/2009/05/_watching_the_google_io.html>
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  16. # [01:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6586] Zero margin quirk not quite right <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0039.html>
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  19. # [02:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6670] Allow unescaped &s, at least in attributes that accept URLs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0040.html>
  20. # [02:21] <pimpbot> changes: Allow href='http://example.com/demo?id=hello&copy=1&world=fun' experimentally. (whatwg r3146) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0076.html>
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  23. # [02:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6729] Attribute getters/setters should lower case argument on HTML elements in HTML docs" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0044.html> ** "[Bug 6684] Disregard of RFC 4329 and IANA MIME Media Types" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0042.html>
  24. # [02:52] <pimpbot> changes: Clarify MessagePort GC rules. (whatwg r3147) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0077.html>
  25. # [03:22] <pimpbot> changes: getAttribute() and getAttributeNode() convert their argument to lowercase. (whatwg r3148) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0078.html>
  26. # [03:22] <Hixie> i wish pimpbot wouldn't tell me what i checked in 45 minutes after i checked it in
  27. # [03:22] <Hixie> it's very confusing
  28. # [03:22] <Hixie> maybe i need a /ignore for "changes" somehow
  29. # [03:25] <Hixie> let's see if this works: /ignore -regexp -pattern ^changes: -network w3c -channels #html-wg pimpbot!pimpbot@*
  30. # [03:25] <Hixie> pimpbot: hi
  31. # [03:25] <pimpbot> Hixie: Huh?
  32. # [03:25] <Hixie> ok i still see regular messages
  33. # [03:31] <Hixie> let's see if i see the commit message for r3149
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  35. # [03:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6760] "string" misspelled as "stirng" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0046.html> ** [Bug 6759] event queueing rules for <img> are nonsensical <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0045.html>
  36. # [03:52] <pimpbot> changes: Fix grammatically confusing sentence. (bug 6759) (whatwg r3149) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009May/0079.html>
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  51. # [10:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6586] Zero margin quirk not quite right <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0048.html> ** [Bug 6977] New: Unnecessary sentence in <cite> presentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0047.html>
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  73. # [14:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6978] New: Mark eof-terminated script elements as malformed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009May/0049.html>
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  76. # [14:32] <Julian> Henri, can I ask you a Firefox build question (Windows)?
  77. # [14:34] <hsivonen> Julian: sure, but I probably don't know the answer
  78. # [14:35] <Julian> It appears the build runs through, it creates a firefox.exe in dist/bin
  79. # [14:35] <Julian> when I start it, I get my standard install of FF (3.0.10) instead...
  80. # [14:35] <Julian> Same if I make a package, unzip it, and start from there...
  81. # [14:35] <hsivonen> Julian: do you already have the usual Firefox open?
  82. # [14:35] <Julian> Likely
  83. # [14:36] <Julian> So do I need to close all instances?
  84. # [14:36] <Julian> ...other...
  85. # [14:36] <hsivonen> Julian: at least with the Linux version, you need to
  86. # [14:36] <hsivonen> (unless you run a different profile, which may be advisable anyway)
  87. # [14:36] <Julian> Good point.
  88. # [14:37] <Julian> Will be gone for a moment due to Chatzilla.
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  91. # [14:38] <Julian> Henri, that was the problem.
  92. # [14:40] <hsivonen> ok. good that I can guess some windows things from linux behavior
  93. # [14:43] <annevk> ah yeah, Firefox is annoying with that
  94. # [14:44] <annevk> Julian, I was merely citing it because your message made it seem as if you thought there was WG agreement
  95. # [14:45] <annevk> And I thought there was some treshold criteria for the tracker, but maybe things changed
  96. # [14:48] <Julian> We don't need WG agreement to add something to the tracker.
  97. # [14:49] <annevk> That's not what I'm saying
  98. # [14:49] <Julian> In particular, if the author has an outstanding action (ACTION-123) to reply, due 8 days ago.
  99. # [14:49] <annevk> Ian?
  100. # [14:50] <Julian> Yes.
  101. # [14:50] <annevk> Since when can non-telcon participants be assigned action items?
  102. # [14:50] <Julian> What does this have to do with the telco?
  103. # [14:50] <Julian> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/123
  104. # [14:50] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-123 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  105. # [14:50] <annevk> Let me state it differently, did he agree to taking that action item?
  106. # [14:50] <annevk> It's against W3C protocol to assign action items to people who did not agree to taking them.
  107. # [14:51] <Julian> I don't know, nor do I think he needs to.
  108. # [14:51] <annevk> Based on experience with the W3C I'd say he has to agree
  109. # [14:52] <Julian> But it is ok to add non-chartered stuff to a spec, and then not to reply when asked for th reasons?
  110. # [14:54] <hsivonen> my 'agreement' to the tracker item assigned to me was that I thought it was against protocol to refuse when Zakim picked me as "victim"
  111. # [14:55] <Julian> Ignoring process for a moment (it wasn't me who added the action...)... But if the WG asks the editor why he did something, I think it deserves an answer.
  112. # [14:56] <annevk> You raised the issue two weeks ago. Things take a bit of time
  113. # [14:57] <Julian> If Ian has the time to add these four chapters (vcard, icalendar, bibtext, atom), he probably also has time to explain why.
  114. # [14:57] <annevk> If you catch him on IRC you can probably ask if he can prioritize it somewhat if a timely response is important to you
  115. # [14:58] <Julian> I think the fact that there's an overdue action on him should be sufficient information that the WG wants feedback.
  116. # [14:58] <annevk> Seems to me that it followed from the microdata use cases / requirements discussion
  117. # [14:58] <annevk> Julian, I doubt he even knows an action item is assigned to him
  118. # [14:59] <Julian> so he's both not attending telcos *and* not reading the minutes?
  119. # [14:59] <jgraham> Julian: FWIW I think the answer to the question is "because it allows the use cases of rich drag and drop / clipboard items" to be fulfilled
  120. # [15:00] <jgraham> Although obviously that is not an offical answer
  121. # [15:00] <annevk> Julian, that seems like quite a leap from not knowing he has an action item
  122. # [15:01] <annevk> (In my experience Ian always does action items on time.)
  123. # [15:02] <jgraham> Julian: And whilst I think it makes sense to consider taking the specific mocrodata bits out of HTML 5, keeping the D&D stuff would make the specs codependant on each other. So I'm not sure you'd gain much
  124. # [15:02] <jgraham> *microdata
  125. # [15:02] <jgraham> (amongst other errors)
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  138. # [16:43] <pimpbot> planet: Web Storage Portability Layer: Abstract on top of HTML5 and Gears Storage <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/M4FCFnfuKuw/web-storage-portability-layer-abstract-on-top-of-html5-and-gears-storage>
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