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- # Session Start: Mon Jun 01 00:00:00 2009
- # Session Ident: #html-wg
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- # [09:34] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: the case of href and alt on <area> does seem like one where it might be better to add some assertion checking to generate a more helpful error message
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- # [09:54] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: yeah. I wish George Bina's patch had gotten into Jing faster.
- # [09:56] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: is the error reporting in MSV substantially better than Jing?
- # [09:56] <MikeSmith> I've never really used MSV
- # [09:57] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: can Selectors be used to express the contraint that "The “for” attribute of the “label” element must refer to the id attribute on a form control (anywhere in the document)"?
- # [09:58] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: no
- # [09:59] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: is any kind of stream-based checking going to be able to check that kind of constraint?
- # [10:00] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: I'm not sure, but the recursion depth issues are substantially worse with MSV than with Jing
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- # [11:12] <pimpbot> changes: Tweak some informative wording for clarity. (bug 6767) (whatwg r3157) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0000.html>
- # [11:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6767] <time> warning regarding Gregorian calendar <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0000.html>
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- # [11:42] <pimpbot> changes: Fix some grammar errors errors. (bug 6769) (whatwg r3159) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0002.html> ** Tweak some informative wording for clarity. (bug 6768) (whatwg r3158) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0001.html>
- # [11:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6769] Grammar mistake: "element element"? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0002.html> ** [Bug 6768] 4.8.10.3 Media types -- unclear note <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0001.html>
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- # [14:01] <pimpbot> planet: Mozilla at eLiberatica <http://blogs.mozilla-europe.org/?post/2009/06/01/Mozilla-at-eLiberatica>
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- # [15:01] <pimpbot> planet: Conforming to Karl <http://standardssuck.org/conforming-to-karl>
- # [15:22] * gsnedders wonders whether he has seen that before
- # [15:22] <gsnedders> I _think_ I have.
- # [15:25] <hsivonen> gsnedders: did you watch standards suck as a live performance?
- # [15:25] <gsnedders> hsivonen: No, we were watching them on marcosc's laptop (or maybe Lachy's?) on the train after TPAC
- # [15:26] <gsnedders> hsivonen: The only one I saw live was my own :P
- # [15:26] <gsnedders> (I've never watched that one.)
- # [15:26] <hsivonen> ok
- # [15:28] <gsnedders> Yeah, I'm sure I saw Karl before.
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- # [16:33] <MikeSmith> @planet
- # [16:33] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Mozilla at eLiberatica <http://blogs.mozilla-europe.org/?post/2009/06/01/Mozilla-at-eLiberatica> ** Conforming to Karl <http://standardssuck.org/conforming-to-karl> ** …and we’re back! <http://standardssuck.org/and-we-are-back> ** Google Wave <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/05/31/Google-Wave> ** How does the low real time typing work in Google Wave? (4 more messages)
- # [17:02] <pimpbot> planet: How does the live, real-time typing work in Google Wave? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/932415/how-does-the-live-real-time-typing-work-in-google-wave> ** <div>Activating Browser Modes with Doctype</div> <http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/>
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- # [20:02] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Canvas Accessibility <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=257> ** 2009-06-01 Trunk builds <http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2009/06/01/2009-06-01-trunk-builds/>
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- # [21:02] <pimpbot> planet: Open Web Games <http://autonome.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/open-web-games/>
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- # [22:15] <pimpbot> changes: Fix the magic margin quirk some more. (whatwg r3160) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0003.html>
- # [22:15] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6779] Clarify the difference between elements and tags <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0006.html> ** [Bug 6770] Term emphasis inconsistencies in Terminology section <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0005.html> ** [Bug 6778] Note the XPath implications of assigning HTML elements into the http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml namespace <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
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- # [22:45] <pimpbot> changes: <keygen> breaks out of <select> too. (bug 6796) (whatwg r3163) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0006.html> ** <object usemap> is interactive. (bug 6790) (whatwg r3162) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0005.html> ** Try to be a little more consistent about typographical use. (bug 6770) (whatwg r3161) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0004.html>
- # [22:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6812] Typo: JavsScript <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0010.html> ** [Bug 6796] <keygen> in <select> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0009.html> ** [Bug 6790] object element with usemap attribute should be in "Interactive content" category <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0008.html> ** [Bug 6784] [blocked on webidl] WebStor
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- # [23:45] <pimpbot> changes: Make addColumn()'s last argument 'hidden' instead of 'visible'. (bug 6833) (whatwg r3165) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0008.html> ** Allow <datagrid> to contain any flow content. (bug 6382) (whatwg r3164) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0007.html>
- # [23:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6833] Datagrid minor comments <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0012.html> ** [Bug 6832] <datagrid> content model is silly <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0011.html>
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