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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 19 00:00:00 2009
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  16. # [01:29] <billyjackass> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/att-0085/W3C_and_APIs.htm
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  19. # [01:30] <MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/att-0085/W3C_and_APIs.htm
  20. # [01:30] <MikeSmith> http://zecke.blogspot.com/2009/06/palm-released-webcorewebkit-sourcecode.html
  21. # [01:30] <pimpbot> Title: Some Blog: Palm released WebCore/WebKit sourcecode for their Palm Pre.. (at zecke.blogspot.com)
  22. # [01:33] <Hixie> "But over time, use of scripting languages (and Javascript in particular) and event-based APIs (such as DOM) has increased; today’s HTML specification focuses more on the DOM2 HTML API than it does on the declarative syntax of HTML itself, for example."
  23. # [01:33] <Hixie> really?
  24. # [01:33] <Hixie> that surprises me
  25. # [01:35] <Lachy> I'm not surprised that that perception exists, since there is significantly more DOM related stuff in HTML5 than in previous versions, even if technically it's still outweighed by the amount of semantic and syntactic HTML stuff
  26. # [01:36] <Hixie> i would have thought that HTML4 + DOM22HTML had about the same level of focus on DOM APIs as HTML5 does
  27. # [01:37] <Hixie> relative level, anyway
  28. # [01:38] <Lachy> sure, when you add two separate specs together, you may technically get more than that in HTML5 itself. But then you could add HTML5+WebStorage+XHR+Selectors-API+whatever else and beat that more
  29. # [01:39] <Hixie> i guess
  30. # [01:39] <Hixie> but that doesn't seem as relevant
  31. # [01:39] <Hixie> i mean, html5 is specifically scoped to cover the same as html4+dom2html(+xhtml1)
  32. # [01:39] <Hixie> anyway
  33. # [01:45] <MikeSmith> somebody please help me out here .. who's the "John" that Ashok mentions?
  34. # [01:46] <MikeSmith> Jonathan Rees?
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  38. # [02:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 7034] change "conformance checker" to "ideology checker" or "loyalty checker"" (10 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0073.html>
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  41. # [02:12] <masinter> John K likely
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  43. # [02:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7032] Sandboxing and Referer <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0075.html> ** [Bug 7034] change "conformance checker" to "ideology checker" or "loyalty checker" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0074.html>
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  45. # [02:45] <MikeSmith> masinter: does the tool used to generate the source for that doc not also generate a <title> for it by default?
  46. # [02:48] <MikeSmith> seems like what it could do, if there's no title info in the source metadata, is fall back to just using the contents of whatever ends up being the first <h*> element in the generated HTML
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  55. # [04:53] <masinter`> I don't know how the document was created, i think i sent it in ascii and Ashok HTMLed it
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  57. # [05:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7034] change "conformance checker" to "ideology checker" or "loyalty checker" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0076.html>
  58. # [05:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7035] New: clarify what the use case is for first illustration under "3.4 Content models" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0077.html>
  59. # [05:41] <MikeSmith> @tell masinter there is dc:* metadata and a comment in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/att-0085/W3C_and_APIs.htm that seem to indicate how it was generated
  60. # [05:41] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: You got it, player.
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  64. # [06:00] <pimpbot> planet: using HTML5 video with fallbacks to other formats <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/html5-video-fallbacks/>
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  73. # [09:01] <pimpbot> planet: HTML 5 - Early Adoption Where Possible - Good or Bad? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1016515/html-5-early-adoption-where-possible-good-or-bad>
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  83. # [11:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7032] Sandboxing and Referer <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0079.html>
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