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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jun 30 00:00:00 2009
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  5. # [00:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6746] case-insensitivity of other than a-z and A-Z, e.g., diacritics <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0186.html>
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  14. # [01:34] <pimpbot> changes: Be less judgmental about certain encodings... (bug 6858) (whatwg r3341) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0227.html> ** "Tweak presentation of category lists. (whatwg r3340)" (5 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0226.html> ** Add lists of elements for the remaining categories used in content models. (whatwg r3339) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publ
  15. # [01:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6858] More details needed for "ASCII-compatible encoding" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0187.html>
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  19. # [03:18] * karl has just read around 100 emails of public-html. I think I will go eat to forget about the nonsense.
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  26. # [06:06] <pimpbot> planet: What's the key difference between HTML 4 and HTML 5? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/134727/whats-the-key-difference-between-html-4-and-html-5>
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  28. # [06:51] <karl> >The goal is not that all implementations should pass all tests. V8 set out with that intention and we learned the hard way that sometimes you have to be incompatible with the spec to be compatible with the web. Rather, we want Sputnik to be a tool for identifying differences between implementations.
  29. # [06:51] <karl> http://blog.chromium.org/2009/06/launching-sputnik-into-orbit.html
  30. # [06:51] <pimpbot> Title: Chromium Blog: Launching Sputnik into Orbit (at blog.chromium.org)
  31. # [06:53] <karl> s/be compatible with the web/compatible with the broken web implementation/
  32. # [06:54] <karl> s/be compatible with the web/be compatible with the broken web implementations/
  33. # [07:10] <pimpbot> changes: Remove the sections on audio and video codecs, since no solution is forthcoming. (whatwg r3342) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jun/0228.html>
  34. # [08:06] <pimpbot> planet: Why are (X)HTML 5 and XHTML 2 separate standards? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/472274/why-are-xhtml-5-and-xhtml-2-separate-standards>
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  36. # [08:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7059] [blocked on xpathwg] Forking XPath <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0188.html>
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  38. # [09:15] <jgraham> karl: It's more like "We made a spec that we know to be unimplementable but expect implementors to waste time working out what the problem areas are for themselves"
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  45. # [09:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6774] <mark> element: restrict insertion by other servers" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0190.html>
  46. # [09:47] <Philip> jgraham: We should sue them for misuse of the version number "5", if they're intentionally making it not match reality
  47. # [10:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6606] generic 3rd-party <mark>, Smart Tags, and Activities prevention <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0193.html> ** "[Bug 6746] case-insensitivity of other than a-z and A-Z, e.g., diacritics" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0192.html>
  48. # [10:19] <Philip> "To the extent Web browsing requires HTML, the UA and computer offerers must make their product comply with an HTML standard. Flexibility is allowed but not unlimited. That's already law." - uh, what law would that be?
  49. # [10:20] <MikeSmith> Philip: natural law
  50. # [10:21] <MikeSmith> either that, or the law of the jungle, maybe
  51. # [10:21] <jgraham> Does that have anything to do with the natural law party?
  52. # [10:21] <jgraham> Can we expect yogic flying to become an important part of the web platform?
  53. # [10:22] <MikeSmith> tantric yoga would be a better fit maybe
  54. # [10:22] <jgraham> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party#United_Kingdom
  55. # [10:22] <pimpbot> Title: Natural Law Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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  61. # [11:10] * karl thinks about jungle law and sees yummy bananas and primates for replacing greasy pizza and geeks
  62. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> in the jungle, you have to hunt and kill your pizza yourself
  63. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> nobody else does it for you
  64. # [11:12] <Philip> Couldn't you train a monkey to hunt pizzas for you?
  65. # [11:13] <MikeSmith> Philip: I've tried that. doesn't work
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  67. # [11:22] <karl> Philip: already imagine that there is someone above monkeys in the jungle… aaaaah the illusion of the primates :)
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  69. # [11:33] <karl> http://blog.whatfettle.com/2009/06/22/etsi-2-0/
  70. # [11:33] <pimpbot> Title: Paul Downey :: ETSI 2.0 (at blog.whatfettle.com)
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  78. # [13:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 6606] generic 3rd-party <mark>, Smart Tags, and Activities prevention" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jun/0194.html>
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  91. # [19:09] <pimpbot> planet: about:mozilla – Firefox 3.5 launch edition! <http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2009/06/30/aboutmozilla-3/> ** Firefox 3.5 is now available for download <http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2009/06/30/firefox-3-5-is-now-available-for-download/> ** Firefox 3.5 Available Now! <http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2009/06/30/firefox-35-available-now/>
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  111. # [21:35] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: yt?
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  119. # [23:07] <hober> MikeSmith: should the publication of http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-xml-names-19990114/ be added to the HTML/history page?
  120. # [23:07] <pimpbot> Title: Namespaces in XML (at www.w3.org)
  121. # [23:08] <hober> perhaps with some choice quotes from http://mailman.ic.ac.uk/pipermail/xml-dev/1999-January/008386.html to go along with it :)
  122. # [23:08] <pimpbot> Title: Big Day for Namespaces, Styles (at mailman.ic.ac.uk)
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